German?
category: general [glöplog]
hitler went to breakpoint!
best pic from bp2003. =)
Slander!
Anyway...I probably didn't make myself clear. I'm famous for that :)
Germans (in general, give or take the odd exception) have a tendency to go beserk with politically correct rage when you touch on the Nazis and anything that reminds them of it. While I can sympathize with the fact that nobody would like to be reminded of these series of events, it gets to the point where it's ridculous.
Essentially any reference, tongue-in-cheek remark or sick joke gets taken as nation-wide offense. I've seen jesusfreaks act less heated about a JESUS IS A HOMO shirt. Your stance that you ought have a laugh regardless of that (and yes, The Great Dictator is a nice example) is not popular German thinking.
While I'm ranting, I might as well touch briefly on this german ban on public display of symbols and materials related to Nazis: imho, it's overzealous and it doesn't work. Burying those things just made the people who dig that Nazi crap pick up some other flag, symbol and dresscode.
You're not making their ideas disappear by banning public display. It's not symbols you should be trying to expel, it's the people and the fucked up ideas in their head you ought to be after.
Anyway...I probably didn't make myself clear. I'm famous for that :)
Germans (in general, give or take the odd exception) have a tendency to go beserk with politically correct rage when you touch on the Nazis and anything that reminds them of it. While I can sympathize with the fact that nobody would like to be reminded of these series of events, it gets to the point where it's ridculous.
Essentially any reference, tongue-in-cheek remark or sick joke gets taken as nation-wide offense. I've seen jesusfreaks act less heated about a JESUS IS A HOMO shirt. Your stance that you ought have a laugh regardless of that (and yes, The Great Dictator is a nice example) is not popular German thinking.
While I'm ranting, I might as well touch briefly on this german ban on public display of symbols and materials related to Nazis: imho, it's overzealous and it doesn't work. Burying those things just made the people who dig that Nazi crap pick up some other flag, symbol and dresscode.
You're not making their ideas disappear by banning public display. It's not symbols you should be trying to expel, it's the people and the fucked up ideas in their head you ought to be after.
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I might as well touch briefly on this german ban on public display of symbols and materials related to Nazis:
You do not understand.
These symbols are forbidden under prosecution by german federal law. Imagine me, perhaps sitting in a public i-net café lookin' at a pouet thread where a NSDAP standarta posted by you idiot shows up...I probably will get sued by law because you acted like a dumb fool.Or the I-net café admin will toss me out with the note: "Fuck you nazi asshole, I don't want'cha in here looking at >>such<< sites" GOT IT finally?
Posting photos with some guy looking familar to A.Schicklgruber is not the same and causes no anger instead of posting such offending stuff you did lately.
And I don't care if YOU are "famous" for that.
at least, this thread turned out into what i thought it would be when i first saw it. thumbs up for that. =)
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Germans (in general, give or take the odd exception) have a tendency to go beserk with politically correct rage when you touch on the Nazis and anything that reminds them of it. While I can sympathize with the fact that nobody would like to be reminded of these series of events, it gets to the point where it's ridculous.
Sounds like a french disease.
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You're not making their ideas disappear by banning public display. It's not symbols you should be trying to expel, it's the people and the fucked up ideas in their head you ought to be after.
I'm afraid these ideas (diluted or not) have found their way into a lot of minds, already.
I regard political correctness, or for example the rather amusing habit to systematically go to court in order to crush any forms of contestations by financial means (like suing okkie for blatant & outrageous slandering).
as reminiscences of some old & wellknown totalitarisms tools adapted & softened for our so-called democracies.
Whether intended or not, nazism or stalinism or maoism (or whatever) have been reservoirs/schools for our modern democracies, we're picking here the ways to silence the contestating & unhappy minorities
often punished severely in order to keep the fighting majority as obedient & enthrusting as possible.
To keep the majority of our fellow citizens in line and to avoid a general demoralization are also two of the reasons why our governments are financially helping the lower classes (also because we all know how nazism raised)
blabla...
I just can't belive how cocky the Germans are, even tho they lost two world wars.
I guess it's just because they killed so many jews they found they won over someone.
I guess it's just because they killed so many jews they found they won over someone.
Stefan:
The egypt held the jews as slaves thousands of years ago ;)
you're generalizing again! Don't use this "they"!
for legal information on showing nsdap symbols
[url=http://www.polizei.niedersachsen.de/dst/lka/staatsschutz/rechts/informationsblatt/start.htmlverfassungsschutz mich schön[/url]
The egypt held the jews as slaves thousands of years ago ;)
you're generalizing again! Don't use this "they"!
for legal information on showing nsdap symbols
[url=http://www.polizei.niedersachsen.de/dst/lka/staatsschutz/rechts/informationsblatt/start.htmlverfassungsschutz mich schön[/url]
germans being cocky?
ok that's your opinion and if you like to over-simplify things for a whole country, you're sure free to do so.
but just for clarification:
i am german, did not lose/win any world war or kill any jews - nor did i harm any other human being in the history of mankind. i feel as much responsible for these events, as i do for causing the most recent gulf war.
assuming i/we/my countrymen was/were cocky - it's definately because of anything, but not because of what you refer to.
ok that's your opinion and if you like to over-simplify things for a whole country, you're sure free to do so.
but just for clarification:
i am german, did not lose/win any world war or kill any jews - nor did i harm any other human being in the history of mankind. i feel as much responsible for these events, as i do for causing the most recent gulf war.
assuming i/we/my countrymen was/were cocky - it's definately because of anything, but not because of what you refer to.
dodge:
Its hard to talk about a nation without generalizing. Iam sure there where one or two people in germany that wasnt nazis, however, its very unlikely they lived to tell the tale, so we can most likely assume that everyone who lives on today wich are real germans are indeed from a tree of nazis.
And, why would we care about your laws about symbol publishing?
keith:
Who cares?
You are still a love product of two nazis making sweet sex without condom. Maybe in second generation however.
Its hard to talk about a nation without generalizing. Iam sure there where one or two people in germany that wasnt nazis, however, its very unlikely they lived to tell the tale, so we can most likely assume that everyone who lives on today wich are real germans are indeed from a tree of nazis.
And, why would we care about your laws about symbol publishing?
keith:
Who cares?
You are still a love product of two nazis making sweet sex without condom. Maybe in second generation however.
^what Keith said!
Stefan: please say that into my face in real life that I'm an offspring of nazis and feel the consequence!!!!
I strongly suggest you to mind your tounge !
Stefan: please say that into my face in real life that I'm an offspring of nazis and feel the consequence!!!!
I strongly suggest you to mind your tounge !
@megadelux
some people fail to comprehend and others just don't want to. i just figured you're not even one of the latter ones.
sincere condolences.
some people fail to comprehend and others just don't want to. i just figured you're not even one of the latter ones.
sincere condolences.
dodge:
As I said.. Cocky Germans. That you NEVER learn..
"YOU SAY IAM NAZI??! ILL *BEAT* YOU!!!"
Wow, how exactly did that not prove my point?
As I said.. Cocky Germans. That you NEVER learn..
"YOU SAY IAM NAZI??! ILL *BEAT* YOU!!!"
Wow, how exactly did that not prove my point?
Oh, and doing violence to protect your ancestors honour, thats like.. Why Hitler got the power of Germany, again.. Please understand your past, only way for you germans to ever get good reputation is by stop taking the aggresive easy part and stop thinking about burning all jews to make your grandparents proud..
Really, its annoying you never learn.
Really, its annoying you never learn.
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...so we can most likely assume that everyone who lives on today wich are real germans are indeed from a tree of nazis.
Best bullshit I've read lately...
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You are still a love product of two nazis making sweet sex without condom. Maybe in second generation however.
you denounce me for my roots and not for the individual that i actually am. that's by the way exactly what hitler and his nazi-fellowship did. such an attitude belongs into the categorie "racism".
if anybody here derserves to be titled "nazi", it's you because you are discriminating and biased.
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only way for you germans to ever get good reputation is (...)
there is no need to remedy any kind of "bad reputation", because it's only narrow-minded people like you who think that we'd have to make good for something we (the actual population of germany) never did.
Stefan:
did I say I'll beat you up???
I said that you'll feel consequences...
did I say I'll beat you up???
I said that you'll feel consequences...
BTW:
every mideuropean nation has a bloody condamnable history
for which one can blame it's citizens ancestors for! Period.
And now I recommend YOU, Stefan to grow up.
every mideuropean nation has a bloody condamnable history
for which one can blame it's citizens ancestors for! Period.
And now I recommend YOU, Stefan to grow up.
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You do not understand
No, YOU don't understand, or you just don't want to. I am aware of this ban, and as stated, I think it's not only stupid but also very, very self-indulgent. The situation you depicted in the netcafe is just the kind of thing I'm talking about. You might as well be watching scatporn and iraqi execution videos, but god forbid that you're stumbling onto the kackvotze release page -not for the fact that they have such a colorful name, but because of an image link. That would be evil.
Isn't it time you guys got over this and just accept what happened back then, rather than hope it won't be brought up ...or else?
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did I say I'll beat you up???
I said that you'll feel consequences...
What, you're going to cry and hope he feels bad about it? Feel free to elaborate what you *are* going to do then.
THE ONLY GOOD FASCIST IS A VERY DEAD FASCIST!