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What would it take to create NTSC version DVDs of this compilation?

I'm assuming that it would require:
1) recapturing the demo output as NTSC ~60 Hz video
2) reauthoring the DVD using the same menu structure, but new VOBs for the video clips

Is it as "simple" as that?

one word: nerovision

Well, given that there is no product named "nerovision" on nero's web site, and a search of that term yields only a page talking about a plugin for nero, I conclude that this is a transcoder solution.

Transcoding sucks, particularly for a DVD. If I were taking the DVD and making VCDs, then it might be acceptible.

buy a dvd that can handle both pal and ntsc ? ;)

buzzie: pssssh. Don't say that. PAL is un-American and its sole use is to support terrorists.

legalize: no, not quite.

Going to NTSC means either you whack off the bottom or top or both, OR compression of some lines. This distorts. Distort == ick.

You could possibly just reduce the resolution, but, well.

Basically as the author, you'll need to do a lot of checking; 'is this conversion/compression ok.' And I don't mean xvid compression, I mean detail compression. It CAN be fine, but as it will be slightly smaller, some detail can be lost.

(Alternately, you can do a true NTSC version, with all the lovely sound distortion. Since these are modern demos, they wouldn't have that in reality, but it would be teh funneh.)

buzzie: most dvd players can do that (Ok some need h4x0ring) but the TV itself tends to not like the input stream.

kb: you know damn well the only reason to use PAL is to keep American sceners thinking that Pan-Europeans have loads more talent cuz everything sounds so much better sped up 25% (:

Anyway, yes, this SHOULD be done, as it would then run properly on not only US DVD players, but also would help to send demoshock to Japanese brain.

But, I would discourage you from doing someone else's compilation; do your own (: And throw in some like ABCDemo and Eurotrash, the Delabu Alama demos.... There's nothing WRONG with NTSC fixing... but it's just a tad bit cooler, in my mind, in making your OWN.

Actually the PAL2NTSC speedup is 20%. I still remember the "make your games 20% faster" ads for console mods.

Yeah, it is. The screen is 20% smaller. Which cuts off a load of scrollers ):

okay, as the encoder of the demo or die dvds, i can say this:
one would have to capture all demos again, instead of 50fps with 60fps, adjust the scaling/interlacing avisynth script, resample the menus to ntsc, and there you go...
i can also say this: i won't do it... i don't have the time, and probably no one would ever want to watch it...

Bartman: bullshit. I can give you names of 4 friends at home who would download it if it ran on their machines. But it doesn't, so they don't.

That's as silly as saying that no one in Europe would download them if they were in PAL.

Anyway, I understand the time thing. But I won't let you get away with being defeatist without calling you on it (:

4 friends doesn't constitute for a compelling audience of the NTSC edition :)

Also, I might be retarded (feel free to jump in here, cracktro people), but considering the complete lack of problems playing PAL/NTSC discs in whatever computer with a DVD drive I experienced, isn't that just a problem of TV+sofa convenience?

huuugs, the big problem is the framerate... I've got for example a batman group collection dvd with all demos and intros captured direct from true amiga machine on a dvd-recorder and while the dvd runs pixel-perfect 50fps on a telly, playing it back at the computer just makes you cringe due to framerate and interlace conversion

---oldschool rant starts here---
maybe nowdays people don't care about that since you now can't really control the machine, but the whole "oneframe" oldschool mantra is not only about fast but also about constant and even framerate with no sttutering due to triple/N-way buffering
---oldschool rant finishes here---

!= pc demo captures or movies

huugs, the demo or die DVDs are made by getting back control over the demo so that it plays back at 50 fps for PAL recording. for really good results you'd need to re-capture with forced 60fps playback :)

bartman that's what I figured and alluded to in my first message.

I've transcoded TV programs from PAL to NTSC before and its generally a pain in the ass and usually comes out looking inferior because of all the transcoding in both space and time.

so true.

Shifter: ah, you say that, but then you proudly claim to be part of an extremely small platform, the xbox scene... boasting 1 scener outside of limp ninja (:

touché :)

Doubtful, madenmann :)

I'm not sure where pride came into play. For all it's worth, being into the xbox scene is very frustrating. I hate the video captures but nobody takes the goddamn effort to see releases run on the actual hardware.

"VIDEO" has become the new "First post!".

Bunch of cheapskates.

*fetches his cane* In my time, I had to go over to some other kid's place to watch amiga demos, and vice versa...

A friend of mine has an xbox so I *could* watch the breakpoint 2005 demo, IF THERE WERE BINARIES AVAILABLE. ;)

I have an Xbox, and I watch 'em. Cept the Breakpoint 2005 demo. And the Michera for series 60.

And, Shifter, I had to go to the Pilot's house to code cuz I couldn't afford an Amiga.... AND WE LIKED IT.

Pride is always a factor when talking about lions.

The mind reels at what you he had to watch in return.

And Transformer will be released in spring, on Atari 800XL. Read the website :)

Hi, it's now summer 2015, will Transformer be released? :) at least in video format