Browser ports
category: residue [glöplog]
this looks legit, I can tell by the pixels
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this looks legit, I can tell by the pixels
Maybe his fifth leg is behind the body?
are we doing horse big organ jokes now?
It’s no joke. Horse organ is like a big big cat organ.
you're absolutely right!
You're playing the horse-organ?
As I recall, Amiga was mostly funded by private investors who were not associated with Wall Street or Silicon Valley VCs. This is part of the reason why it was so good, but also one of the reasons why it later lost the battle with the PC.
Disassembling Amiga demos and porting the code to PC is a slap in the face for every Amiga fan. It's not only about the faithful pixels. The code and the hardware components are the soul of this legendary hardware. Emulators are much more respectful option.
As for the initiative of porting to the web using AI, the commercial interest is clear. Just follow the money.
Disassembling Amiga demos and porting the code to PC is a slap in the face for every Amiga fan. It's not only about the faithful pixels. The code and the hardware components are the soul of this legendary hardware. Emulators are much more respectful option.
As for the initiative of porting to the web using AI, the commercial interest is clear. Just follow the money.
I have been a fond user of Amiga (500, 500+, 1200, 2000, 4000), created an homebrew game for Amiga (both OCS and AGA versions) that you could find on Lemon etc…
Don’t speak in my name about the so-called “Amiga fans” being offended by this or that, please.
Sincerely yours.
Don’t speak in my name about the so-called “Amiga fans” being offended by this or that, please.
Sincerely yours.
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Lol fuck AI.
Less than zero respect to all the meat proxies vomiting their slop here. These JS ports are nothing but a fuckin’ insult to the scene.
Taking the meat proxy and zero respect for myself.
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building demos is a sport.
Nope, I don't agree.
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Disassembling Amiga demos and porting the code to PC is a slap in the face for every Amiga fan. It's not only about the faithful pixels. The code and the hardware components are the soul of this legendary hardware. Emulators are much more respectful option.
No, I cannot agree. Demos are throw-away art and due to their fully digital nature they can be duplicated and analyzed to death in disassembly and tools of all sorts. They are alive only while being made, and die in the moment they are being aired, captured or transformed.
You can get their artistic essence only once when being run for the first time on the original computer and bound to the original medium. After that they are just data bereft of artistic essence. Taking a video capture and running a browser demake is basically the same thing, playing with a mashup of data. Taking it to an emulator is no different, it's playing with the data, the empty shell of a demo.
Stooges be stooging.
once released into the wilderness of the Internet, the data will have to learn how to fend for itself else it is at risk to be collected by data hunters and scavengers.
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they can be duplicated and analyzed to death in disassembly and tools of all sorts
This needs the authors permission out of sheer politeness.
Even if you are allowed to port the code to a web platform, you will demo only the artistic aspect of the demo and not the capabilities of the hardware.
The best is of course running the demo on real hardware and knowing that the hardware blitter is doing its job.
An emulator is still fairly close to this feeling. The demo runs from the original code and all hardware components are emulated.
Whereas when you run reconstructed PC code, AI-generated or not, all the magic is lost. It may look and sound the same, but it's not the same.
You may as well capture video and audio losslessly.
Hm no. I have yet to see a demo of ours without tons of bugs from emulation, and "lossless" is entirely wrong category: An Amiga demo does not produce digital video and audio. A disk is an electromechanical medium, which produces fluctuation and noise ... and so on and so forth.
PC rewrite doesn't have disk noise and drive hum either, does it?
Browser ports are an interesting experimental test case for AI. Thats all. And they may produce fewer artifacts than video encoding, call at algorithmic re-enconding of the original output pixels if you will. Nothing changed in regard to youtube or emulators during the last 10-20 years. All the arguments still stand.
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