Does anyone know what the first …
category: general [glöplog]
… cracktro was?
my memory is unreliable for this but i believe it was considered to be something by berlin cracking service on the c64 (or eaglesoft).
although there are known pirated games with altered intro screens being distributed on apple ii dated before then for example.
there was free distribution and "legal" piracy before copyright protection and copyright laws came into effect and crack intros as a cultural phenomenom came into effect, so it's hard to pinpoint exact first crack intro afaik
interested in hearing reports from others though
although there are known pirated games with altered intro screens being distributed on apple ii dated before then for example.
there was free distribution and "legal" piracy before copyright protection and copyright laws came into effect and crack intros as a cultural phenomenom came into effect, so it's hard to pinpoint exact first crack intro afaik
interested in hearing reports from others though
Google AI say it was on a Apple II computer here, but is it correct?? I think the Google AI got it from Wikipedia. Link here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crack_intro
I find this PDF is interesting: https://www.mat.ucsb.edu/Publications/burbano_MAH2009.pdf
Especially in the intro part here:
Especially in the intro part here:
If the first crack appeared in 1979, I was 2 years old @ that time. 😂
That Intro part above that North American Apple II Software crackers where organised in modem networks to exchange data, came from this bok by King Fisher/Triad aka Linus Walleij
Copyright does not exist!
http://svenskefaen.no/cdne/
Copyright does not exist!
http://svenskefaen.no/cdne/
I don't think King Fisher has the answer to this question, he maybe have qlue, but if the first crack appeared in 1979 he was 7 years old, so he was not the one coding the cracktro back then i think. No i think we need a old skool scener from the early 60's to answer this.
The earliest text scroll (in any cracktro or demo) I've seen so far is in Danish Crackers Intro (1984)
https://csdb.dk/release/?id=53624
https://csdb.dk/release/?id=53624
Yes! while the crack scene may have originated in North America around 1979 with Apple II software crackers, the first cracktro may have appeared approximately five years later in Denmark on the C64 by the group Danish Crackers.
So it's only a crack intro if it features a scroller? Static screen does not count?
getting in on the ground floor of another 20 page thread of arguing over 'what is a cracktro'
... what the first thread on finding the first cracktro was?
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Google AI say it was on a Apple II computer here, but is it correct??
Google KI-Answers are mostly wrong. The exact same question that you asked gave me this answer:
The very first cracktro (a short intro sequence in cracked software that names the cracker group) probably appeared on the Amiga computer, with a famous early version created by the group Quartex, and defined the genre with scrolling text and demoscene aesthetics.
Yeah, the first cracktro on Amiga. Hahaha … of course!
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it was considered to be something by berlin cracking service
Was that the one containing the paint magic display routine - before paint magic existed? :)
GCS (my guess is Frantic Freddie crack) is the first one I clearly remember.
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Google KI-Answers are mostly wrong. The exact same question that you asked gave me this answer:
The very first cracktro (a short intro sequence in cracked software that names the cracker group) probably appeared on the Amiga computer, with a famous early version created by the group Quartex, and defined the genre with scrolling text and demoscene aesthetics.
Yeah, the first cracktro on Amiga. Hahaha … of course!
Yes know! AI is hallucinating a lot! LOL! 😂🤣
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Yes. :DWas that the one containing the paint magic display routine - before paint magic existed? :)
And if static screens in front of games are considered crack intros, then the BCS thingy is likely not the first (even if 1982 is true).
See Apple II cracks for tons of those things with BBS numbers and such, some probably older than the C-64. :)
Oldest Cracktro according to Demozoo is Tank Command graffiti from 1980 on the Apple II assuming it's from before August of that year. The other two are also for the Apple II
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getting in on the ground floor of another 20 page thread of arguing over 'what is a cracktro'
Why though… when one can simply ask whether or not demos originate from cracktros.
Jeff Minter made a tiny demo with a star scroller in 1985
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I wonder who used it first in the intro
Horses by Yak
I wonder who used it first in the intro
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Yes know! AI is hallucinating a lot! LOL! 😂🤣
then stop fucking using it. jesus christ. just stop.
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then stop fucking using it. jesus christ. just stop.
The problem is, that Google shows its AI-generated answers above the normal ones. And sometimes I forget this and start reading it.
I mean it is also possible to stop using google, or, at the very least, use an ad/element blocker from it showing up in the first place.
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use an ad/element blocker from it showing up in the first place.
For some reason it's really inconsistent, some of the times the overviews show up anyway even though I have an extension (and the comments on the Firefox web store say the same thing). But randomly all of the ai overviews disappear, like right now I tried searching up a bunch of questions that yesterday got them for me, and it was completely clean for whatever reason.