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Amiga Demoscene Music - First Minutes

category: music [glöplog]
I've made YouTube videos of all of my Amiga demo recordings, by decade, using ADLaunch for screenshots and XMPlay to provide audio "previews", or the first 60 seconds plus one gap inbetween each, of each production listed as a general reference index for the Amiga Demoscene of each decade.

Here is the YouTube playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTx6uo4g3pbLXguQ_rne7yX7aR2yIDNAP
added on the 2024-07-04 17:20:12 by Foebane72 Foebane72
wasn't there a thread about the exact same thing a few days ago already?
added on the 2024-07-04 17:29:15 by v3nom v3nom
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wasn't there a thread about the exact same thing a few days ago already?


Yes, that was a trial run and a test, this is the official thread. That old thread could be deleted or merged with this thread, if that's an option.
added on the 2024-07-04 17:36:17 by Foebane72 Foebane72
i still think it's incredibly stupid and you should put your time towards actually creating something yourself rather than butchering other people's work
added on the 2024-07-05 02:39:13 by lynn lynn
I dont think there is any butchering done, its normal snippet of a track and none of it is INCREDIBLY STUPID...

But hey, you do you.
added on the 2024-07-05 08:49:37 by leGend leGend
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i still think it's incredibly stupid and you should put your time towards actually creating something yourself rather than butchering other people's work

said dj who plays 6 hours drum & bass sets 🤣
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i still think it's incredibly stupid and you should put your time towards actually creating something yourself rather than butchering other people's work

said dj who plays 6 hours drum & bass sets 🤣


the only thing you've ever contributed is being really pretentious about music

opinion discarded.
added on the 2024-07-05 14:24:11 by lynn lynn
Maybe you should pump the brakes a bit.
added on the 2024-07-05 14:32:55 by Gargaj Gargaj
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the only thing you've ever contributed is being really pretentious about music


And some of us are thankful for this :)
Oh great, I figured it would happen: one of the videos has already been restricted in certain regions because of copyright issues. I wonder how I can fix that.
added on the 2024-07-05 22:53:46 by Foebane72 Foebane72
simple, make the previews only 7 seconds long!
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simple, make the previews only 7 seconds long!


I think I know which demo caused it, the Nah-Kolor "Merry Christmas" with an instrumental of "Last Christmas" by Wham!

I am going to add a whole bunch of 8-bit and other 16/32-bit demos to these videos soon, but if YouTube continues to strike them, I may have to make them available outside of it. The copyright strikes are getting stupid now on that site, especially for commercial music!
added on the 2024-07-06 00:09:24 by Foebane72 Foebane72
Here's the second YouTube playlist devoted to non-Amiga Demoscene music:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTx6uo4g3pbLbcXvdOtwvvsebm98cqOau
added on the 2024-07-08 09:20:04 by Foebane72 Foebane72
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added on the 2024-07-08 13:09:02 by havoc havoc
I don't get why people are objecting to these videos, it's not as if anything's actually being "cut" or there's any "mutilation". If you see the times on the XMPlay videos, they're full-length audio recordings, mainly the OGG recordings I shared here a year or so ago. These videos, for the umpteenth time, simply play a one-minute sampler of what the full prod is. Think of it as a sampler, or a trailer.

Some people will see this and go: ooh, a list of demos I've always been interested in, especially the music and screenshots of what they look like, but won't want to trawl their way through YouTube videos or Pouet.net searches for all of them, without these videos that give a taster of what to expect, they can then write down the Pouet.net prod numbers of the demos that interest them and investigate still further. I really don't see the problem here.

I personally like skipping through the videos bit by bit and hearing for myself the full diversity of Amiga music, etc.
added on the 2024-07-08 19:04:03 by Foebane72 Foebane72
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it's not as if anything's actually being "cut"

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These videos, for the umpteenth time, simply play a one-minute sampler


you're contradicting yourself.

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Some people will see this and go: ooh, a list of demos I've always been interested in, especially the music and screenshots of what they look like, but won't want to trawl their way through YouTube videos or Pouet.net searches for all of them


I am struggling to imagine the person you're describing actually exists. I can't imagine anyone thinking "wow dang, i've always been interested in these demos, but i can't be bothered to look them up. if only someone made a video with one minute snippets of just the music, i'd be enticed". this is just adding unnecessary steps to a process that isn't incredibly involved in the first place

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they can then write down the Pouet.net prod numbers of the demos that interest them and investigate still further.


how is that any less effort than just typing the name of the demo into a search bar?

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I personally like skipping through the videos bit by bit and hearing for myself the full diversity of Amiga music, etc.


I'm glad you found a process that works for you but I think you might be the only one here.
added on the 2024-07-08 19:52:16 by lynn lynn
Lynn, I already know your opinion on this, I don't need to hear anymore from you about it.
added on the 2024-07-08 20:06:03 by Foebane72 Foebane72
in his defense, i did made me think 'wow, i haven't heard that mad freak/anarchy - 3d demo soundtrack since the late 90s' :D
I'm just opening the option of these audio snippets en masse.

It took very little effort to record these videos, just a lot of time, but of course, there were the OGG recordings themselves that took weeks and months to record years ago, and I've already shared them here to much appreciation, so there's that.

Maybe the views will pick up, maybe they won't, but they're staying up for as long as my YT channel exists.
added on the 2024-07-08 20:14:48 by Foebane72 Foebane72
Amiga Demoscene Music (thread title) used in your videos were made by Amiga Demoscene Musicians.
I really think you should credit people whose work you use.
added on the 2024-07-08 21:25:55 by asle asle
To be completely honest, I think massive bloaty Youtube recordings (especially) of old skool demos and music are a special sort of transgression. This kind of cosumerist behaviour just makes us all lazy and it’s wasteful. Like, the amount of data of the whole C64 demoscene history could well be equal to one or two of these superfluous videos. Picture that. But that’s just my (very) personal opinion, I’d never trash the people that create, upload or consume these.
added on the 2024-07-08 21:35:45 by 4gentE 4gentE
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Amiga Demoscene Music (thread title) used in your videos were made by Amiga Demoscene Musicians.
I really think you should credit people whose work you use.


I think the group names in the titles are enough. It would take weeks if not months to research everything, otherwise.
added on the 2024-07-08 23:00:34 by Foebane72 Foebane72
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To be completely honest, I think massive bloaty Youtube recordings (especially) of old skool demos and music are a special sort of transgression.


Are you a purist or something? There are thousands of videos of prods on YouTube, and most people are satisfied with YT videos, and for some of them, there's no chance of using an emulator nor real hardware. Although I suspect that you dislike emulation as well :)
added on the 2024-07-08 23:04:32 by Foebane72 Foebane72
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I think the group names in the titles are enough

As a musician, I beg to differ.

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It would take weeks if not months to research everything, otherwise.

Is that your only defense? Taking someone's work and then not having the time to look up who actually composed that work is too much? Then maybe you should reconsider your project. Besides, all of this information is readily avaiable for most demos, on both Pouet and Demozoo, you could probably automate retrieval of this information from Demozoo for a large number of productions.
You are building your work on top of other people's work. Show them some respect. (see also: complaining about YouTube copyright strikes because of uncleared sampling rights. This is what you get for blindly using other people's work without doing your part of the research.)
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I think the group names in the titles are enough

As a musician, I beg to differ.

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It would take weeks if not months to research everything, otherwise.

Is that your only defense? Taking someone's work and then not having the time to look up who actually composed that work is too much? Then maybe you should reconsider your project.


Does that apply to all of the OGG recordings I made as well? That was around two years ago, and no-one mentioned this then. Besides, how could I fit all the extra names onto a filename? And no, my OGG files are completely untagged.
added on the 2024-07-08 23:34:16 by Foebane72 Foebane72

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