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Here we are again....elite talks LOL

Bring back the EUROCHARTS!

*checks watch* ah yes, the scene is dead again!

Just lmao also lol en rofl

look daddy, i drew you and mommy!

I think I much prefer this thread being hijacked by silliness than seeing it dying because it took a pedantic "debater club" turn.

How about a DEMO OF THE DAY thingy that slaps you in the face when you enter pouet. Maybe that can trigger more comments, new discoveries and hidden gems from the past.

I absolutely love this idea!

I would like to use them for TAOHC as well, can we talk about this idea @rc55?

The pool to pick the DEMO OF THE DAY could be automatically filled, so that it can be automatically picked at random once a day from that pool, and it could be based on:

* prods that are on any of the existing lists
* prods that have at least one individual CDC, but less than 20 comments
* prods that were released at a party in the last X years and placed in the top half of the compo results, but have less than 20 comments
*....
* PROFIT!

Yeah, I think so :) Hugs!

If anything, I'm sharing the sentiment that I dislike the overall black/white mentality where people gather online. Which, of course, is not mutually exclusive to Pouet. But a general online communication thing.

Embrace the grey area!

I've been capturing tons of Amiga demos lately and writing a bit of a 'review' of each thing in the youtube description, I did consider posting those comments here when I came back to post the youtube link but to be honest, I'm not enough of a scener to really think I can add anything meaningful to the conversation (I don't know all of the effect names and I have little concept of what's impressive or isn't from a technical standpoint).

Having said that, I hope to make my own thing soon™ so perhaps I had better start posting my comments because I know I'd like to see some in return if I ever manage it

Arpz: keep them coming, I discovered a few prods on your channel that I never saw before, thanks for that.




You don't need to be a scener for that. Most people are always happy to get constructive feedback. You don't have to make demos yourself to tell someone that you liked their work ;)

Despite the `wide' variety of content available pouet I like it very much. Even tho my primary motivation to make demos is the joy of simply doing it, receiving comments (or generally feedback) on my creations is an important aspect. Ideally it is observing the response of my peers viewing the demo during or after its release. However this is kind of limited to the physical presence. In that sense the pouet feedback is a (diluted) extension of this response on reception. It is not a substitute for real life interaction, but its better to the alternative of non-interaction.

In that regard, I tend to make a habit out of commenting on pouet after I've viewed a demo.

I'm proud of you, son

Love pouët and can't imagine our scene without it.
It's my go-to source of demos, their captures and yes, the capability to comment which I sadly underused in the last time.
As spkr said it's time to make a habit to make a comment after watching a demo, especially underrated ones.

this reminds me that I have to try the pouet API

Can't ever be as dead as it is in the US :P

First of all one objection: In my opinion real-time is sort of artistic statement. It is about what you don't see, the process of art being composited by a set of rules, pointing out the complexity of the machines (in opposition to a video tape for example).

But I definitely share some of the points pixtur made. It is indeed convenient to watch stuff on yuotube, which is far more accessible. I personally love the style of pouet and find it easy to use, but that might not be the case for everyone.

And maybe the problem really is that we have to use the platforms that the rest of the world uses to present stuff and draw people to the real shit. I understand the hesitancy and dislike the companies running those platforms, too, but then again, we are also on youtube. I think the ZINE radio show is a shining example that regard.

Okay, one last thing. A while ago I had the very hypothetical idea of reviving the idea of cracktros on the internet by hijacking websites and showing web demos. I see that this is very destructive way of presenting content and let me be clear, it is illegal and I don't want this to be understood as a call to action. I just found the idea funny and wanted to share it with you.

That's a great idea. And there must've been a scene of that kind some 15-20 years ago, I remember having seen "defacement intros" on webpages, at the least I'm sure there were animated group logos very much in a demoscene or graffiti style. So these folks were defacing websites for fun, because they could, and for bragging among their peers. Another benefit is of course that you have a rogue server's root account for a few hours or days. It's not my thing nowadays, but it in spirit this looked very much like graffiti and demoscene. This might be an idea for the Javascript folks.

Limp Ninja defaced pouet with an intro some years ago.

“shitting where you eat” it’s called

not only it is poor form, it's not hygienic at all, kids… don't do it.

How about real-time cinematics?

In fact, things are moving towards real-time for quite a while ago in games, visualizations (Notch and Tooll, right?), even in movies (virtual sets).

The nice thing about demoscene is those real-time productions are abstract and very imaginative.

The problem is distribution of executables indeed. Creating a portable executable that works smoothly, without visual artifacts or even crashes on variety of OSs/GPUs/drivers etc... is damn hard. That's why ShaderToy is more popular than pouet.

That, plus Shadertoy has less baggage to overcome as a community. Gargaj has done AMAZING work, but even as a demoscener since the beginning, pouet can be a scary place as over the years, the toxicity has left it's taint, even as they successfully struggle to reduce it.