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ROTFL at first i didnt realize this too. Because the following



have for me valid in all periods of the whole award-history... >;-D

They really sucks, in a transparency manner.

Who are the Jury? How many ppl? Why is moron xy nominated as jurymember? How you can become a jurymember? Where for gods sake are the promised comments WHY is this or that product nominated and why moron xy gives later his points? Which jurymember have nominated what? How is the jury-internal voting system? Did you come around to a private meeting with lots of beer and chicks and grabs eachother balls or what? :-D If you have any kind of written system, why the hack you dont publish it at all? I cant believe that the whole scene have only nominated the handfull products in the public choice category. Why not releas the whole list? How many scener have vote? Im sure, it would be great to see all lists, including the products that havent made to any nominee/points. On both sides, public and jury! Damn, any smaller or lame party have better stats, results and lists than you.

MORE transparency, more stats, more rules explanation and more background of the whole way how a product comes to the award!!! Thats in, you always really lag. And why its hard to take this Awards seriously.

And dont be a real moron to answer any of my questions here! ;-) Beside i know some answers already and its anyway a waste of time (i cant like this Awards :-). I think its your obligation to do this on your website for the whole public. Because the Info-Sektion dont match this at all. And the summarized comments on the winner after the show. This to short yaddayadda and the "jury will be announced later" its never enough!

Ok, thats for the general matter. I just wanted to pull out some questions to make the Award-Organizers thoughtfully, how they can improve they shit ;-D

melw, ps: wonderful! i'm heard :) now i know you're considering it.

melw said "It just happens to be so that 95% of the releases are nowadays done on PC"
Now I just think that is BS. I got no statistical data to backup my opinion.

SNIP (you get the idea).

Why scene.org jurors aren't made public? Jesus, get a grip man. They would get personally hosed, mailed and IM'ed by people who feel that since it's not their idea of a good list, they have to right to wail about that to god on the two-way radio and the jurors themselves.

FYI I'd still love to do a drive-by shooting for the fact that Chimera was awarded for the 2002 awards. Security through obscurity works best. (I know it was your fault, ps ;p)

"D-stands for" the delusions of Shane the ignorant

Rules hinder flexibility. It is better for juries to have a framework of guidelines rather than a set of strict rules. The Cannes festival for example works in this way, it is the jury which sets the rules of deliberation.

And erm.. jurors are actually published after the votes

fuckings to Gargaj for bumping that thread. ;)
That looks like the typical afterparty nightmare of an organizer: "Why hasn't xy won the compy, why was abc disqualified, how could Metalvotze win the party?"
I'de like to see Anruf aus Schweden but then again people would flame it for using modern technology. I wonder how a overlongtechnomusicvideo.exe could become a nominee for most original concept when it was already done in 1992, buth then again I didn't wonder how a copy of a copy could become first place at the last meeting. Maybe people have different tastes and decide for their own.

Anyway, fuckings to overrated. :)

maden: most original concept means original in the demoscene, not to the world, thats why.

It seems that the demoscene trend is complaining instead of creating.
Don't ask "why wasn't this nominated?" or "how could that win?", ask yourself "why can't I get anything decent done?".

And stop whining about "transparency": it's not YOUR awards, it's "Scene.org", meaning that the guys at scene.org (which is not the demoscene as a whole, but a certain people collective) work their ass off to set it up. This puts THEM in charge of deciding HOW to do it, WHEN giving the awards and WHO is going to choose the awarded production.

All that you can do it's try your best to win one of those statues, give your humble suggestions about how to make the whole thing cooler or just shut the fuck up if you don't care about the awards.

Nobody cares about those whining little bitches anymore. People would have been far more infuriated about the glaring omission of their personal preference anyway.

Word up, Dixan. My thought, exactly.

You would say that, Dixan. MFX will always be in the running regardless of what they do.

No, i mean nominating individuals independently of the productions, something like (just a guess):

Best coder of the year: Keops.
Best musician of the year: Little bitchard.
Best group of the year: The Beast Crew.
etc.

But it might be redundant, tho as they are more likely to have some stuff already nominated in the other awards too (but not necessary winning them).

Or maybe you're running short of statues...

Shifter: word
Willbe: word
Dixan: word
Hitchiker: thx for the good laugh ;)

Shane: not that we ever did anything to run in the mainstream.
Maybe it's because we are all so masculine and goodlooking.

mfx - Scene.org Awards 2006 - "Manly performance" nominee.

But Dixan, I am masculine and goodlooking too! I also have firm buttocks!

Maybe there could be an award for the best scene animal of the year: Tiger, Wolf, Dragon, etc... :)

Ikanim is the best scene animal of 2004!

Also thumbing Dixan's comment. And Drago's. Opposite takes on giving a shit about it.

ehm sorry i wont read all the posts above so sorry again if such question was already asked.

why (~ the fuck - optionally ) public's choice section consists of preselected ( by jury ? ) prods only ( sorry again if i had misunderstood smth and there really exists kindof "other" option for manual prod selection )? imho it'd be rather fair to allow to select any prod ( well, available on pouet ) of year 2004. so ?...

the__m: there was the possibiliity to add your favourite prod to the list of prods that you could choose from if it wasn't on the list yet.

mmkay, thx. now when voting will be available ? :P

it _was_ :D

what a dumb fuckhead i am :((

Ah, this needs some more disscusion... ok, here we go :-D From the organizer a original-quote :



In general, i follow this idea and its good!!! BUT only if is consistent handled! I hope thats the right word... consequent exist in english? Now look the archive of the Awards and the nominees and tell me what is "special" about, to see nominees they already becomes honored being 1-3 ranked on partys.... especially on the bigger one :-P (and maybe seeing the same shit additionally spanned over half dozen categorys...)

Its my conviction: if you really want to give respects on forgotten products, you must be hardcore consistent/consequent... and nominees from all partys that already ranked 1-3 are FORBIDDEN.

I really dont like inconsequents (oh, what a suprise... ;-D) and thats why i cant like this Awards. You are in to many aspects inconsistent. Beginning with my first post and the jury-stuff (which i again come back later on it hehehe). That have zero to do with im whining or stuff... hey, till next BP-Pricegiving iam already incumbent heavyweight Champion.... >;-D