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Maybe we should ditch all platforms and replace them with tags.

That way even the "should the zx spectrum platform be divided" folks would be happy.

To me the platform is most useful for search: As a user, I want to be able to find stuff that will run on my hardware.

Some of the current platforms don't do this very well. For instance the "Amiga AGA" platform tells me little of use - I have an A1200 with an 040, but when I browse that category it shows me stuff that definitely won't run on my hardware - stuff that needs 060 mostly. There's no way to find unaccelerated AGA demos unless someone maintains a list, and who knows if that maintainer will keep their list updated.

Sure you can put it in the comments but this is not searchable and in my experience it's rare that the comments or the .nfo actually tell you what hardware is required.

This is important to capture in the database where it can be filtered and searched, .nfo files and comments are unreliable and it is easy to imagine the actual requirements to run some demos being lost in the mists of time.

I particularly like the screenshot shown elsewhere in this thread (with the base platform and peripherals e.g. "USB Fondue Set"). I think that'd help me a lot in finding stuff, provided there was a decent way to filter prods by the stuff my hardware is compatible with.

It'll be the same argument, "this prod doesn't deserve the zx tag because it requires a special FPGA speccy that isn't the real thing".

You can't stop that ZX flamewar anyway :o)



Where would we extract the info from, then? If the nfo doesn't tell the platform requirements, how do you decide. In the case of Amiga prods, what is the minimum acceptable framerate? If it crashes, how do you make sure it's because of the wrong CPU, and not some different OS/Kickstart/setpatch version?

I'm afraid the only way to know "will it run on my machine" is to try it. Then you can create your own "stuff that run on my machine" list :D

The common courtesy is to write it as the first comment when uploading.

List of demoscene-ish Pico-8 productions

• Ad Astra by ate bit
  
• Orbys by POD
  
• Duangle 2015 intro by Paniq
  
• PICO-8 Jam #1 Invite
  
• Babysteps by Dekadence
  
• PicoRulez by Razor1911 <- not on Pouet yet (still WIP, @rez ?)
  
• RGC 2016 Invitintro
  
• The Core by Level90
  

Feel free to update/append those lists.

isn't this Sprite Record demoscene-ish enough to be included on the list? :(

Also, more complete list on Demozoo

About the platforms... it seems that today, the platform icons are totally messed up and don't match the correct platform in the "Prods" section.

shift-reload will solve all your woes :)

thanks Gargaj

Ok.. it worked.

@nodepond: just seen your post, but I already put PICORULEZ on pouet this weekend :D

So since afaik PICO8 carts can only be 32k (16/16 code/data), do they always qualify as 32k intros?

Also, what's preferred? Linking to the .p8 or the .p8.png?

Either I guess. On Ad Astra's page I uploaded the cart image as the screenshot, so that can be loaded directly into pico-8 as it is.

If platform X has Y memory and all of that is filled by a single demonstration, the term "Y intro" makes no sense. F.e., if the c64 had only 4kb memory, the designation "4k intros" wouldn't be meaningful for that platform anymore.

Not memory, storage.

Maybe in the future some kind of "?v=1" tag should be appended to the filename in the CSS to avoid this issue on every platform addition?

It's there if you take a closer look, I was just lazy :)

Question is, how this is a valid point when only 16k gets copied to "memory" and all the other stuff is the Lua stack and the resources needed for the emulator/tools/VM? :)

This is the good old "PC 4ks aren't really 4k because of all the system libs and APIs available" all over again, isn't it? :)

No, the question was if all Pico-8 prods are "32k intros" by default when you only have 32k available. It's a bit weird and misleading that's all I'm saying. The fact that it's a fantasy platform and by definition dependent on much more powerful hosts is a different matter.

Why is it misleading? If 32k is the maximum amount of space you can occupy with your content...? (If I'm reading it right.)