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What you think about MOD in old style?
Lets say that today in 2016 someone makes a MOD like Sarcophaser or Telephone, like Twins songs or SLL and other even more simple 4-chan mods with old ST samples. Imagine they (these songs) aren't any legend from 80s or 90s. Forget nostalgia factor. They have been written just made today. How would you rate these songs? Do you consider them cool or rather outdated and crap?

Some people say they are crap and outdated and they might be liked only in early 90s. And some other say it is so cool.

They already do make old style tunes using 30 year old samples. Just watch a revision tracked music compo, it's usually got a few of those old style tunes in.

Its always down to personal taste though really. People do love that style but I think it's more a nostalgia thing to be honest. Personally I'm not that fond of it. I'm much more interested when someone tries something different.

As long as the composition is good, it's not about the sounds or the samples. At least for me.

I like "old style" with modern production values and techniques. Kinda like synthwave.

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=52436


...awesome music collection, blending old resources with new ideas, worth checking out :)

A little old-skool tune here and there is nice if done well (see also what keito posted), but I recently had to listen to a lot of 15-sample SoundTracker modules for debugging purposes and it was depressing how they all literally sounded the same. Kinda understandable back then, but with all the sample sources these days... come on. ;)

well best MOD in old style are not MOD but STK :D

like → http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detail=modules&view=3982

a good tune is a good tune, period.

however, a lot of people mix up "oldschool" and "its shit"

Agree with both viewpoints - I tend to tap skip on 4champ radio stream if there's too much 'nostalgia' in the samples. However, one of my all time fav mods is a STK format one (from a marvellous Thrust intro from 1988 http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=18963). And also must say some people obviously can make miracles with very old sample sets, e.g. Jazzcat in http://amp.dascene.net/downmod.php?index=112440

A lot of people are using "oldskool" as an excuse or as a saving grace.

The opposite is quite true reads as :

A lot of people are using "newschool" as intellectual laziness as 1) you do not need to optimize anymore with accelerators and 2) you do not need to code with third party written libraries.

In philosphy you learn not to confuse modernity with progress.

That said the best music I've ever listened to comes from only 4 distinct channels.

I'm pretty sure he meant 'oldschool' as a label for lazy tired things on newschool platforms, that don't require much creativity nor engineering. (or the millionth bouncing logo + scroller on an actual old platform: again no mad coding skills and creativity required :P)

I started following demoscene again a few years back and was a bit surprised people were still making 4-channel MOD-music but hey, if that's what gives the kicks then why not :P..

I used to track music with mod trackers because that was the only way to make music. I stopped doing that as soon as I could, and I'm not going back. :) That said, I couldn't give less fucks about WHAT people use to make their music as long as they make it. Tools are tools.

Side-note: as Gargaj touches on, sometimes people go "oldskool" or "retro" (not just with music, just look at all the "pixel style" indie-games) for the sake of saving time or space or lack of talent, and those people can shove it.

What really gives me a kick is hearing a 4 channel module sounding fresh as f**k! Just because the tools are old, you don't need to write music of that tools era with it.

I'm sure all those 1991 rave modules thought they were fresh as f**k at the time.

what about stereo separation?

Still fresh as f**k: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=154991

100%!!!! And don't forget that interpolation that muffles everything. Yum.

if you're doing a throwback thing... making something in the style of another era, AND you have a concept which that style fits (Netflix' Stranger Things, for example) .. then adopting an "old" style can be cool, appropriate, and interesting.

If done purely for the sake of "let's see if we can recreate the past" .. then no thanks =) If I want to go nostalgic, I'll just tap into the vast resource of ACTUAL nostalgia rather than inventing new wanna-be stuff.

Lots of wise words here already. I'm also not excited about ST-XX style mods, mainly because they are relatively easy to make. What really interests me is using oldschool 4-channel format to make something that doesn't sound like a typical MOD. Especially when you are making music for A500 demo and have to cram your imagination in, say, 200 kilobytes. Now, that's a challenge! :) Contraints always make you creative.

Why do people still try to re-create those old mods is kinda beyond me. You can do really much more interesting stuff on Amiga today… Just look at Cinter for instantce. It allows you to combine generated sounds with regular samples in tiny intros and it literally lifts the quality of A500 intro music to a new level IMO.

Well, one reason why someone would want to create something that sounds like the music of yore could be because they like that kind of music, and want the pleasure of new releases instead of having to feel like archeologists. There are plenty of contemporary bands that are heavily inspired by music acts from the 1970's for example, and people are listening to them despite that they're not innovative and modern sounding.

"Why bother trying to relive that moment in time?" Well, why not, if it works for you? Perhaps you never learned how to make any other type of music. Perhaps you weren't active back then, and now want to try to recreate the sound of your childhood/whatever. To some extent the question is a bit troublesome for all of us. Why even use our old, obsolete computers instead of moving on with the times?

Merely trying to imitate the past will however in the end surely only result in pastiches, and pastiches are appreciated by few people but the author. Not saying that that's bad, I mean if you enjoy making that kind of music for yourself then good on you! If you add a twist though, an original touch, something - I don't know, modern? - then maybe the best ST-xx style mod is actually still to be made? :-)

Thats who am I :)
I was a 5-7 years old kid when these mods were created and I want to do same. I enjoy it. Some of MODs I knew but lot of them I hear for the first time. And I enjoy this style there is nothing about nostalgy when I listen something first time.

Let's say some people like rave. I like rave too. But I like just oldschool rave the classic one. Same for any genre.

Thanx all for ur input, I enjoy knowing ur point of view as I am one making the MODs basing on old style. And I am beginner.

The ST-01 music disk i already have been given by one of my friends and I like it especially that this contains work of some of my fav artists such as DJ Joge or Buzzer, Mystra as well. It is cool.