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8k Reality - The Music

category: music [glöplog]
So, let's put this to bed and this is easy to solve:

Here's the basic parts that anybody cares about from the original (pattern 68)

POS CH1 CH8
001 G#5 D#5
002 A#5 port to F-5
003 B-5 ...
004 D#6 ...
005 G#5 Vibrato at F-5
006 A#5 Vibrato at F-5
007 B-5 volume cut to 20
008 D#5 ...
009 G#5 Vibrato on C-5
010 A#5 Vibrato on C-5
011 B-5 Vibrato on C-5
012 G#5 Vibrato on C-5
013 A#5 port to C#5
014 B-5 volume cut to 30
015 D#5 port to G#4

An observant fellow might notice that the melody in CH8 doesn't fit the accompaniment in CH1. That's because the instrument used in CH1 (33) us tuned to a different base note than the one in CH8 (25).

So what happens if I tune them to the same note? Let's say I tune the melody to the instrument in CH1 (in this case both to a playback frequency of 8203Hz). It sounds like a mess.

So where do I have to transpose the melody to make it sound like the original?

POS CH1 CH8
001 G#5 C#6
002 A#5 port to D#6
003 B-5 ...
004 D#6 ...
005 G#5 Vibrato at D#6
006 A#5 Vibrato at D#6
007 B-5 volume cut to 20
008 D#5 ...
009 G#5 Vibrato on A#5
010 A#5 Vibrato on A#5
011 B-5 Vibrato on A#5
012 G#5 Vibrato on A#5
013 A#5 port to B-5
014 B-5 volume cut to 30
015 D#5 port to F#4

So I look in mine, and what do I have?

Actually it looks like I'm 7 half steps too low (or a 5th). So it looks like yzi is right and I was working off of the 5th instead. Which is exactly what yzi scored out.

It looks like I should make an addendum and raise this.

Good catch fellows! For some reason it sounds "right" on my headphones at home, but I attributed to the "offness" to the instrument and technique differences.

Maybe my ears are broken? I do know the tunnel bit is transposed a bit and one other section, but I got tired of chasing PM's brokenly tuned instruments all over the place and just transposed the notes directly. The other side effect is that it reduced the number of note+volume+instrument+length combinations for the song, which made it smaller.

I think I will do an addendum piece based on this.
added on the 2015-04-17 22:45:51 by elblanco elblanco
Here's the addendum with the *right* notes, not my broken ear notes.

http://elblancosdigitaldreams.blogspot.com/2015/04/getting-real-pt-addendum-are-my-ears.html
added on the 2015-04-17 23:01:46 by elblanco elblanco
Thanks and sorry. I'll look at this tomorrow more carefully.
Lack of portamentos is a bummer as well... It always bothered me in 4klang tunes. A bit toung in cheek, just to explore the possibilities, I tried to do pitch slides with cross-instrument modulation in this intro
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=63513
added on the 2015-04-17 23:04:11 by yzi yzi
This is a cool intro!

Can you go into more about how you modulated between instruments to get the simulated portamento? It sounds pretty good!
added on the 2015-04-17 23:33:00 by elblanco elblanco
Just like you modulate any stuff in 4klang. But instead of modulating, say, cutoff frequency or envelope times or volume, you modulate an oscillator's pitch. It's a kludge really, not a replacement for actual tracker portamento.
added on the 2015-04-18 00:02:27 by yzi yzi
Oh I see. I'm surprised that carried on through the entire tool chain. But if it works, go with it?
added on the 2015-04-18 00:23:51 by elblanco elblanco
Hey, if you cannot hear what the melody is in the original, and what it is in your version, then it doesn't make any sense trying to correct that bit by bit. You drew a moustache on Mona Lisa and you can't see it. Talking about tuning and transposition and entropy is meaningless mumbo jumbo, sorry.

It doesn't take away anything from the effort though, and I did enjoy watching the intro every time. It's funny and enjoyable.
added on the 2015-04-18 14:29:34 by yzi yzi

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