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Demozoo Q&A

category: general [glöplog]
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- yes, and half the time they end up with monumental fuck-ups like Google Buzz :-)
While I understand the reasoning behind holding the beta closed for a little while longer, the problem with Google Buzz was _NOT_ that it was in open beta (like almost all Google products are/were), but rather that the idea and execution was FUCKED UP from the planning stage and onwards :)
added on the 2012-08-06 21:57:02 by gloom gloom
The beta is in no way closed. We have yet to turn anyone away.

Then again, bittin hasn't showed up yet.
added on the 2012-08-06 22:24:51 by menace menace
Maybe you can add a text input on the temp homepage asking visitors to leave a mail, and then send them a generic email the same way you do in IRC?

It can remove some frustration :).
added on the 2012-08-06 22:59:43 by wullon wullon
menace: not to get into semantics, but a closed beta is by definition when only select people (as in: people who contact you to get access) are allowed. An open beta is when you need not do anything to gain access to the service other than simply sign up and start using it. :)
added on the 2012-08-06 23:17:22 by gloom gloom
Sounds very promising from all the descriptions - looking forward to the launch!
added on the 2012-08-07 07:17:55 by Radiant Radiant
gloom: OK, fair enough :)

So, to clear this all up - we are going to focus our resources on building Demozoo, and not on building an elaborate webpage so that people who do not want to get on irc can get access. Sorry. :) We currently have a good amount of active beta testers anyway, so there may not be a need for that many more.

radiantx: Glad to hear you are excited :)
added on the 2012-08-07 08:20:16 by menace menace
"Launching late 2013", as of the website, would be pretty soon. Can you give more details?
added on the 2013-12-24 00:58:37 by noname noname
You all know how deadlines work on the demoscene, right...?

That's all I'm saying :-)
added on the 2013-12-24 02:16:43 by gasman gasman
according to experience, changing a single line of php can take up to six years =)
added on the 2013-12-24 03:32:54 by groepaz groepaz
Gasman, yes. We usually present stuff at parties, even in un-finished state, just to be part of the show :-) Anyway, thanks for the quick update and merry christmas.
added on the 2013-12-24 08:34:47 by noname noname
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You all know how deadlines work on the demoscene, right...?

Aha. So it's going live on 1:00 UTC, 2014-01-01. Got it. ;)
added on the 2013-12-24 10:30:00 by tomaes tomaes
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added on the 2013-12-24 13:22:41 by D.Fox D.Fox
Sorry.. We're all drunk from the Waffle.
added on the 2013-12-24 15:22:07 by franky-- franky--
\o/
added on the 2013-12-29 07:10:43 by dipswitch dipswitch
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farfar - 09:29 29 December 2013 #
I give it about 1 day before you are fed up with cleaning all that shit up :)
added on the 2013-12-29 11:42:51 by reed reed
and for a full, not-out-of-context understanding of that comment, go here:
http://demozoo.org/forums/4/ :)
added on the 2013-12-29 12:08:34 by farfar farfar
context? there's no context... this is pouet!

(and for a full understanding of that reference, go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSQVvjiXxJU)
added on the 2013-12-29 13:27:34 by reed reed
This is SO great !!
added on the 2013-12-29 14:07:24 by ok3anos ok3anos
This is ZOO great
added on the 2013-12-29 15:14:14 by T-101 T-101
Amazing work guys, gratz!
added on the 2013-12-29 15:29:02 by wullon wullon
Great just doesnt cover it! WHOAA!
added on the 2013-12-29 16:41:41 by _Chucky_ _Chucky_
It still needs a lot of tuning. It declares itself to be a database of demoscene productions, but when you visit the site, it appears to be a newspage for demoscene parties. You dont see a single demoscene related production (be it a demo, music or graphic) on the first page and no clue where and how to find one (or the most interesting, if you are a first visitor of the page).

The home page of a website should immediatly reflect, in a self explainable way, what a website is about and make it very easy for a visitor to find (the most) interesting content in an easy and transparent way. It should also reflect the most current content and offer an easy and quick access to it. This is all still completly missing.

I hope it comes with the next steps.
added on the 2013-12-31 00:01:41 by Salinga Salinga
Pouet may not have the nicest, most modern design, but boy it offers you everything at your fingertips when you visit it: The latest productions, the current discussions (onliner, forums, comments), access to the best productions of the month and of all times, the latest news - all one click away. In this regard, Pouet does it all in a perfect way. I hope, Demozoo picks up some of this to make their site more transparent and relevant to visit.
added on the 2013-12-31 00:06:58 by Salinga Salinga
I'm not so sure, Salinga.

It seems to me that while Pouet's front page is fine, it's a general mishmash of things that lends itself more to arbitrarily browsing.

Demozoo's homepage is kind of a bit more like Google. There's not a lot on it, navigation buttons for larger categories of things (like Google's GMail, images, maps ...), and a search box. You don't go to Google to arbitrarily browse random websites on the internet. You go there to ask it to help you find something.

Lastly, I think the two sites have slightly different aims. Demozoo's launch-readiness goal wasn't "replace Pouet". :)
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I added my party for 2014 and a Slengpung link for Mekka 1996 and some recent north american parties.

Oddly I cannot seem to add the @party minidemo montreal series, which was no smaller than Recursion.

(vis a vis Recursion, it sounds like Mr Khan may take it over).

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