becanne 4 and beyond
category: general [glöplog]
moi,
the spanish ppl already know this, but the non spanish dont.. so here is a little (optimus sized) spam about a certain pdf mag called becanne and its future:
its quite simple, you guys know that pdf mag that is called becanne? that is all in spanish.. 3 numbers out already.. this one with this fancy webpage, had lots of pictures and some cute reports and articles, a few interviews with some random spanish scene leets and new crews? well, it's been quite successfull in it's goals so far, and for a spanish only mag, quite very many foreigner sceners downloaded it, but (and this is where you should pay attention for small hints, call it flames if you will, directed at adok, radman, patgroove and those grapevine ressurection clueless schmucks playing diskmag editors), as any self-praising diskmag editor knows, a diskmag must widen it's network of contacts to remain fresh and interesting to follow. so, the situation with becanne at this point is quite simple:
a) the main editor (wise as he is since he's been in the diskmag making world for quite a few years now even though most of you probably never heard of him) decided from the very beggining that he would do 4 and only 4 issues of the mag, to do more would be both too much time consuming and rehashing the same subjects. and he would do these 4 issues the very best he could, making sure that everything would be ready to pass on to another editor when the due time came so that he could carry on the legacy the best he would see fit. and that at that point either someone would take interest and lead it to bigger heights or the project would die it's honorable death at it's peak.
b) the main editor's english sucks ass.
can you count how many diskmags died couz they couldnt expand outside their national scene? i can, they buffer overflow my fingers. passing the legacy can be dangerous for the mag's image, but it's vital for it's longevity, if you don't branch your connections into other contacts of another countries and scenes your mag keeps saying the same information, becomes useless to check.
*flamebait for editors who feel their ego beeing insulted instead of aknowledging reality here*
so at bcnparty100 humphrey gave this workshop/lecture/speech about how becanne was beeing put together, how easy it was to change the layout and how easy it was to get some articles. the details you must take into acount with formatting and coaching people who are writting articles or planning to do an interview or party report, etc etc.. in the end of the workshop (after many many "vale") he mentioned that he just wanted to give the mag the continuity it deserved, and that only another editor could make becannes network of contacts branch out. that he would give total freedom to the person willing to take this job upon him, and would support in whatever necessary to get the job done, and if it would branch into the international scene, so much the better. if there was a foreigner scener wanting to take the mag into his wing, he would gladly consider it aswell. So i asked him something like "the foreigners don't talk spanish.. how the hell are they gonna know about all this? they dont even know the mag is ending at 4.. they havent even been able to read the texts on the last 3 numbers.. you should atleast consider making the last number in english and/or translating the past issues.." and he didn't understand my english so i had to repeat it in extremly strange spanish, the reason why there are no 2 versions of becanne (one spanish, one english) is because he can't translate it all and no spanish ppl have cojones to do the work. but, he promised that issue 4 would very probably be in english, to exactly try to warn the international scene that the only decent new mag of 2004 is dying a horrible but honorable death within the next 3 months unless someone feels brave enough to take the project.
i must confess.. everytime humphrey would talk about branching out to international scene.. needing someone to take over the job.. and the room would go silent... no one would dare to even cough, afraid of everyone else even thinking they might be saying a yes, it made me feel kinda weird.. kinda like someone should show these ball-less spanish, too coward to even translate an issue, how real sceners do it where i'm from.. but then i thought of my wife and kids (read, univ assignments, and netlabel and scene.org responsabilites), and retold myself why i stopped demojournal a few dozen times, just enough to restrain myself from shouting "me! i'll take the damn job you spanish wankers, it's so fucking easy! anyone can do it, i did it for whole years on a weekly basis, i can do it again with a hand tied behind my back without even breaking a sweat.. you're all just pussies!" and then i realized i already had both my hands tied behind my back, not to mention some 9 beers inside my stomach, so, i decided to just remain quiet and translate what was going on to the other foreigners sitting next to me who werent understanding jack shit since the very beggining, and maybe help out translating issue 3 later on without commiting myself immediatly..
so anyways... a few days ago, humphrey mailed me, he's working on issue #4 and it's gonna be in english, and he needs articles, and still someone to take over. and i asked on the argentinian scene forums if anyone would even consider it, since they have these ideas of maybe doing a diskmag (5 beers says it'll never see the light of day due to lack of articles), and would possibly maybe be interested in collaborating with their latino brothers, since they all speak the same fucked up aiaiai tio conho vale language.. which they havent seem to even have read yet, but it might help becanne branch out to the international scene.. maybe just a little help before some foreigner scener (prolly a newb with too much free time) gets interested and makes a shitty english version out of it.. anyways... the point is, if you care, and you should since the mag owns, write a goddamn article in english for it's next issue, or even better, take over the job of beeing main editor for a couple of issues before some clueless newbie grabs the oportunity to try and get recognition from the scene.
love,
filipe
the spanish ppl already know this, but the non spanish dont.. so here is a little (optimus sized) spam about a certain pdf mag called becanne and its future:
its quite simple, you guys know that pdf mag that is called becanne? that is all in spanish.. 3 numbers out already.. this one with this fancy webpage, had lots of pictures and some cute reports and articles, a few interviews with some random spanish scene leets and new crews? well, it's been quite successfull in it's goals so far, and for a spanish only mag, quite very many foreigner sceners downloaded it, but (and this is where you should pay attention for small hints, call it flames if you will, directed at adok, radman, patgroove and those grapevine ressurection clueless schmucks playing diskmag editors), as any self-praising diskmag editor knows, a diskmag must widen it's network of contacts to remain fresh and interesting to follow. so, the situation with becanne at this point is quite simple:
a) the main editor (wise as he is since he's been in the diskmag making world for quite a few years now even though most of you probably never heard of him) decided from the very beggining that he would do 4 and only 4 issues of the mag, to do more would be both too much time consuming and rehashing the same subjects. and he would do these 4 issues the very best he could, making sure that everything would be ready to pass on to another editor when the due time came so that he could carry on the legacy the best he would see fit. and that at that point either someone would take interest and lead it to bigger heights or the project would die it's honorable death at it's peak.
b) the main editor's english sucks ass.
can you count how many diskmags died couz they couldnt expand outside their national scene? i can, they buffer overflow my fingers. passing the legacy can be dangerous for the mag's image, but it's vital for it's longevity, if you don't branch your connections into other contacts of another countries and scenes your mag keeps saying the same information, becomes useless to check.
*flamebait for editors who feel their ego beeing insulted instead of aknowledging reality here*
so at bcnparty100 humphrey gave this workshop/lecture/speech about how becanne was beeing put together, how easy it was to change the layout and how easy it was to get some articles. the details you must take into acount with formatting and coaching people who are writting articles or planning to do an interview or party report, etc etc.. in the end of the workshop (after many many "vale") he mentioned that he just wanted to give the mag the continuity it deserved, and that only another editor could make becannes network of contacts branch out. that he would give total freedom to the person willing to take this job upon him, and would support in whatever necessary to get the job done, and if it would branch into the international scene, so much the better. if there was a foreigner scener wanting to take the mag into his wing, he would gladly consider it aswell. So i asked him something like "the foreigners don't talk spanish.. how the hell are they gonna know about all this? they dont even know the mag is ending at 4.. they havent even been able to read the texts on the last 3 numbers.. you should atleast consider making the last number in english and/or translating the past issues.." and he didn't understand my english so i had to repeat it in extremly strange spanish, the reason why there are no 2 versions of becanne (one spanish, one english) is because he can't translate it all and no spanish ppl have cojones to do the work. but, he promised that issue 4 would very probably be in english, to exactly try to warn the international scene that the only decent new mag of 2004 is dying a horrible but honorable death within the next 3 months unless someone feels brave enough to take the project.
i must confess.. everytime humphrey would talk about branching out to international scene.. needing someone to take over the job.. and the room would go silent... no one would dare to even cough, afraid of everyone else even thinking they might be saying a yes, it made me feel kinda weird.. kinda like someone should show these ball-less spanish, too coward to even translate an issue, how real sceners do it where i'm from.. but then i thought of my wife and kids (read, univ assignments, and netlabel and scene.org responsabilites), and retold myself why i stopped demojournal a few dozen times, just enough to restrain myself from shouting "me! i'll take the damn job you spanish wankers, it's so fucking easy! anyone can do it, i did it for whole years on a weekly basis, i can do it again with a hand tied behind my back without even breaking a sweat.. you're all just pussies!" and then i realized i already had both my hands tied behind my back, not to mention some 9 beers inside my stomach, so, i decided to just remain quiet and translate what was going on to the other foreigners sitting next to me who werent understanding jack shit since the very beggining, and maybe help out translating issue 3 later on without commiting myself immediatly..
so anyways... a few days ago, humphrey mailed me, he's working on issue #4 and it's gonna be in english, and he needs articles, and still someone to take over. and i asked on the argentinian scene forums if anyone would even consider it, since they have these ideas of maybe doing a diskmag (5 beers says it'll never see the light of day due to lack of articles), and would possibly maybe be interested in collaborating with their latino brothers, since they all speak the same fucked up aiaiai tio conho vale language.. which they havent seem to even have read yet, but it might help becanne branch out to the international scene.. maybe just a little help before some foreigner scener (prolly a newb with too much free time) gets interested and makes a shitty english version out of it.. anyways... the point is, if you care, and you should since the mag owns, write a goddamn article in english for it's next issue, or even better, take over the job of beeing main editor for a couple of issues before some clueless newbie grabs the oportunity to try and get recognition from the scene.
love,
filipe
Thanks for translate the situation ps! ... i love you! :D.... anyway, who wants to collaborate with articles or for take the magazine direction in coming issues, contact me writing an e-mail to:
info@becanne.net
The issue 04 will be in english and probably in the next days, you'll have the conference of bcn party translated with subtitles in div-x format if i have a few of time.... maybe the website will be translated too.
¿Vale? .... :D
info@becanne.net
The issue 04 will be in english and probably in the next days, you'll have the conference of bcn party translated with subtitles in div-x format if i have a few of time.... maybe the website will be translated too.
¿Vale? .... :D
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How about making a diskmag in your native language about your country's local demoscene and having it translated to English (or German ;))?
Is it a joke?
adok, keep thinking!
mmm... much better.... stop thinking! :D
\o/
I'd like someone translate the issues 1,2 and 3. They might have preety interesting articles. I wish I knew Spanish (But then I would just keep reading them and not caring about translating them ;)
time is the evil of all scene projects... :(
Yay acknowledgement of the Argentinian scene!
Optimus: Maybe, when becanne 04 will be released, maybe i'll have time to translate (or search help to do it) some articles of the first numbers, ok?
Adok: becanne until now probably was a local magz like are you talking, but it had lots of articles (tutorials, reports and opinion articles) that are perfectly valid for a general demoscene.
If european people shows interest about the magz when it's in spanish, why not if collaborate with articles from a german party, a tutorial of a danish scener or an interview of a polish dude?
Make becanne in english is not to presents the spanish scene to rest because is well known yet. It's making for this reason exactly: because is not center in the spanish scene and everybody could collaborate, and everybody could read it.
Sorry for my lame english, like ps talked in the first message :D
If european people shows interest about the magz when it's in spanish, why not if collaborate with articles from a german party, a tutorial of a danish scener or an interview of a polish dude?
Make becanne in english is not to presents the spanish scene to rest because is well known yet. It's making for this reason exactly: because is not center in the spanish scene and everybody could collaborate, and everybody could read it.
Sorry for my lame english, like ps talked in the first message :D
humprey: i can help yah translate #3 if you want, during xmas time, after pain0412 is out.
ps: you know something about a fresh issue of pain, that will soon come and hit us?
venomsoup: im only co-editor of PAiN, why would i ever know anything about it? its gonna be out at tum.
partyreports needed for next PAiN issue btw, send them in and dont forget to vote (since we are in the diskmag spamming mood)
ps: you have COJONES if you want translate it! :D ... well if you have time.... remember me this with an e-mail :D
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(snip)...the project would die it's honorable death at it's peak.
Considering it's been rather under the radar for most of us, that's a dutch mountain of a peak then. :\
no me gusta espanol, soy muy malo. ;) i tricked the teacher at school to give me a C, which is the best thing ive ever done, because i dont know espanol. and the things i wrote first, are probably totally wrong, i wounldnt know ...
ha tenido espanol en escuela para dos anos, mi espanol es muy terrible... :/
no puede leer mucho...
no puede leer mucho...
would be awesome to have becanne in english. and yes, pain should be out (1204, btw. not 0412, damn you ps, are you living in the far future? ;-)) but it will only work with some more support from you lazy bastard out there.
unlock, cheer up, i have 3 more articles in stock... just have to formulate and format... =)
Unlock: Just set a deadline, maybe I'll write some party reports. :)
deadline comin' soon :)