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What has kept me busy since Breakpoint 2010: A huge white-collar crime

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scamp, it might be useful that the authors of the page correct the link on the german "hilfe gesucht"-page to the contact-page (.../de/contact.php vs. /de/kontakt.php...)
added on the 2011-11-08 09:42:31 by scythoior scythoior
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Well, the site reports about a fraud *against* Viprinet - so wouldn't be the Viprinet guys be the *antagonists* here? ;)

no we wont let you have the wheelchair + white cat.
added on the 2011-11-08 11:00:46 by Gargaj Gargaj
This is why I never applied for a job at Viprinet. I'd fuck up and scamp'd go all "This organization does not tolerate failure.", and I'd go all "I know, but do you see I...", and scamp'd go "Arschloch!" and press a button and I'd go all "Waah, waah, grvbnbnbl.".
added on the 2011-11-08 11:48:03 by skrebbel skrebbel
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added on the 2011-11-08 12:13:16 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
skrebbel: Don't worry, this is still Germany. Safety regulations would never allow that. :)
added on the 2011-11-08 13:11:32 by kb_ kb_
Oh no... don't link to Mitchell and Webb on youtube... that'll be my whole evening gone.
added on the 2011-11-08 17:05:35 by xeron xeron
Hi Scamp...

If you need a mob, you know where to ask..

That said: Go and get them!
added on the 2011-11-08 20:32:09 by torus torus
Intredasting: http://www.szene-insider.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3143&p=25610 (to log in, user and pass is "bugmenot")
I wonder if I should trust some well-known demoscener or some anonymous guy who just registered anonymously on that forum and is plenking..
added on the 2011-11-10 06:10:23 by merkur merkur
one more, definitely the same plenking-guy: http://www.finanz-forum.de/achtung_firma_nerdherrschaft_gmbh_viprinet_t8165.html

He mad!

And I love the name "Nerdherrschaft"

btw: non-BBCode-linking is intentional.
added on the 2011-11-10 10:16:23 by merkur merkur
Should the forum owners kick that user/pass you can also change your user agent to masquerade as the googlebot :P
added on the 2011-11-10 10:54:23 by Kabuto Kabuto
The authors of these posts is
http://www.geres-cassi.to/en/johannes_bitschnau.php

Thanks to his unique style of plenking, it's easy to recognize him ;)


added on the 2011-11-10 12:29:11 by scamp scamp
Also, those posts don't really make sense. As if you could get rid of a personal loan by founding another company...
added on the 2011-11-10 13:00:41 by Kabuto Kabuto
I wonder... do these people of GERES and CASSI even know what's being written about them on the internet? If so, why even announce to continue to fight viprinet? That should be a hopeless quest meanwhile.
added on the 2011-11-11 09:19:43 by xTr1m xTr1m
Ah I see now. They DO know. Then it's either plain stupidity or a hopeless quest for vengeance then.
added on the 2011-11-11 09:51:14 by xTr1m xTr1m
I just wonder in how far it corresponds to the truth what they write about the lawsuits Scamp is involved in as a culprit - maybe not only Geres and Cassi are bad guys, maybe Scamp is a bad guy as well. It is not so easy to divide the world into good and evil.
added on the 2011-11-11 11:02:58 by Adok Adok
I SAID NO WHITE CAT.
added on the 2011-11-11 11:11:23 by Gargaj Gargaj
All the best to the viprinet guys and good luck for what is still ahead of you. But one thing keeps me thinking: What did they offer to Hewlett Packard? Was is just completely made up shit, or did HP actually offer 70 million for your current company? I'd talk to them in that case... :)
added on the 2011-11-11 12:59:01 by steam steam
xTr1m: I think it's mostly an ego issue. Most people inside the scene know that the tone of my messages might be hurting. I guess that Mr. Wiemann gets told by his lawyers he now doesn't stand any chance anymore for quite some time already. I guess it's ignored firstly due to ego, and secondly due to Mr. Wiemann with the truth being in public now is facing serious issues in getting more money out of questionable pools, and therefore is running dry.
I can't count the number I've offered them profitable exit scenarios instead of them going down in flames. They'll now go down in flames, it seems.

Adok: I see that you are just trolling, but hey, I'll bite. While GERES keeps claiming so for months, I have not been notified by the police or any investigators that any criminal charges against me would be worked on. Obviously these guys however easily could have filed invalid charges, with these then getting dropped by the authorities at once, in this case I would not get informed. In regards of lawsuits (private law): Tons of those going on, but until now we've won every single one of them, and I highly doubt this is going to change. Every judge in the relevant courts now already knows about our story.

steam: HP appears to have taken it seriosly enough to spend quite a lot of time on negotiations. I only know the prices asked, I don't know the offers from HP, if any, yet. This will change. And yes, it is somewhat of an honour that someone values my company at 70 Million. However, unless you put a shitloads of lies and exagrations onto the table (which they did), this is not a realistic value by far. It will take some more time (and require the criminals to be gone) until we will reach those levels. I do however have not any intentions to sell Viprinet, and I do not have any intentions whatsoever to do anything that would change our coporate culture, which getting bought by some huge non-nerd cooperation is guaranteed to bring. I'm not in it primarily for the money, I've building this company due to the exact reasons why I am / have been organizing demo partys: I like playing god, creating things and see them grow under my direction, and then enjoy to see that people inside that system are happy. It's like The Sims, but much better and more rewarding.

added on the 2011-11-12 03:18:10 by scamp scamp
Adok: Yet again you prove to be a complete waste of precious space on this world.
added on the 2011-11-12 18:14:55 by DJefke DJefke
Website Geres cassi to is Not reachable any more?
added on the 2011-11-29 01:24:42 by scythoior scythoior
added on the 2011-11-29 11:03:27 by xTr1m xTr1m
I read the whole thing. This is nuts! Scamp I don't know if you can talk about any of it. But they actually came to your office and attempted a physical hostile takeover, hired goons and all? Once it is all dealt with you would easily have me for 20e if you wrote a book about the whole experience.
added on the 2011-11-29 14:43:15 by NoahR NoahR
What's up? Both viprinet and geres have the exact same wording on their homepage now about rediscussing the previous accusations. And both have it only in German even though there's a button for English language.
added on the 2011-12-17 02:12:53 by merkur merkur
Oh, Adok.
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maybe Scamp is a bad guy as well.
So you still haven't forgiven him for going mad after you've published an article in Hugi covering his sexual life?

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It is not so easy to divide the world into good and evil.
If this is binary, let's assume good=1 and evil=0 (good AND evil = evil, good OR evil = good). Well, this would make it actually impossible divide the world into good and evil, because good and evil = evil = 0. Division by zero is still not allowed. It's the law!
Tour proof is flawed.

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