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Does anybody know where the drumloop of the Anarchy 3D-Demo-2 come from? I thought its a Prodigy sample but i couldnt find this one exactly. thx.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRDPEbBsysU
Demo: http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=3091
added on the 2011-01-15 09:46:53 by marsulpi marsulpi
I think that's a sped up version of the intro to Gods
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN0VIgO3U0k
added on the 2011-01-15 10:25:30 by evilpaul evilpaul
i´m searching the drumloop-sample, not the vocals. the demoloop is much more prodigy 90´s style than the original game-music.
added on the 2011-01-15 10:35:48 by marsulpi marsulpi
I think this is what you're looking for

It explains the origin of the loop and the loop's history since the 80's up to today.
added on the 2011-01-15 13:36:37 by Punqtured Punqtured
Doesn't sound like the amen to me.
added on the 2011-01-15 14:28:11 by okkie okkie
You could drop John Foxx a note, asking whether or not that was the loop used - if he knows ;-)

John Foxx' homepage
added on the 2011-01-15 14:36:13 by Punqtured Punqtured
i'm with punqtured. definitely amen.
added on the 2011-01-15 14:49:47 by skrebbel skrebbel
chopped up for sure, but amen nontheless.
Here's the loop, for convenience. Amen? I doubt it. There's far too much additional percussion in it. If the Amen is somewhere in there, not much of it is left.
The original .mod is here - I'll try to disect it and find out whether or not that loop is an edited version of amen's
added on the 2011-01-15 15:30:57 by Punqtured Punqtured
Hmm - seems it's the wrong 3D demo tune...
added on the 2011-01-15 15:32:51 by Punqtured Punqtured
I just ripped it from the Demo, and the sample I linked above is from that rip...
Indeed Saga is right about this. Julius|Mad Freak used that exact loop "Blow Ya Nose" too. I'm not sure where that loop is from, but it surely sounds as if it's from some breakbeat drumloop compilation. There was dozens of those sample-cd's back in the late 80's and the 90's
added on the 2011-01-15 15:39:57 by Punqtured Punqtured
Loaded the mod in renoise, if there is an amen in this one it sure has help from additional samples, so much is clear. That load kick isn't in the orginal amen, or it has been tweaked beyond believe.
added on the 2011-01-15 16:59:55 by numtek numtek
i´m sceptical about the amen break. unfortunately the original amiga sample is just 8bit 16 (or less) khz. mad freak is not contactable nealry 20 years later i guess.
added on the 2011-01-15 19:40:43 by marsulpi marsulpi
Not the Amen break for sure, just listen to the snares ... Sounds like a Funky Drummer in there layered with loads of other crap, soundwise it's close to the Run's House/Some Justice loop which is a layered Funky Drummer.

RUN DMC - Run's House
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr3NLLPtbKY

Urban Shakedown - Some Justice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWswGiAms9U
does this sound a bit like it? , or maybe the one in the first 3d demo.
added on the 2011-01-16 03:12:39 by 4mat 4mat
+1 for layered breaks; part of the groove is definitely from the Altern8 tune 4mat linked. There's other stuff on top for beef tho.

Killer break too, good work to whoever put that one together. :)
added on the 2011-01-16 11:06:04 by k-bird k-bird
Awesome 3 -don't go The sample is taken from the end of the tune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4HhUSQA_7s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
added on the 2011-01-16 11:18:56 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
many are nearby the demoloop but no one is the real one. i´m sure mad freak sampled it by himself and didnt layer it from 2 or more beats (that was really hard back in the amiga days with no timestretching and pitchshifting). so the loop must be found on a recording.
added on the 2011-01-16 12:24:22 by marsulpi marsulpi
It's Defo the one I posted
added on the 2011-01-16 12:45:52 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
what the hoff said
added on the 2011-01-16 14:04:02 by bfx bfx
marsulpi: often they're close but not identical, mostly because of overamplification, compression or whatever... keep that in mind.
i did a comparison coz i thought the awesome-3-loop could be the one, but it isn´t. here´s the result (all stretched to the same level):

original loop,
awesome-originalmix-loop,
awesome-secondmovementmix-loop,
awesome-loop1+2 layered:

Loops@Filesavr

theres more percussion in the demoloop which gives it more groove.

saga musix: you are right. overamplification in combination with low sampling rates und resolution makes it sounds quite different but you can recognize it at the groove/timing of the single components like hihats, toms, snares and drums.

but thanks to all folks posting for the help. :)
added on the 2011-01-17 11:15:32 by marsulpi marsulpi
Quote:
many are nearby the demoloop but no one is the real one. i´m sure mad freak sampled it by himself and didnt layer it from 2 or more beats (that was really hard back in the amiga days with no timestretching and pitchshifting). so the loop must be found on a recording.

Load in the sample, use sample offset to pick individual parts, sequence, bounce out, load loop back in.

It's more or less the same process you would follow with a regular sampler from the same era, except that many samplers would allow you to create zones and assign to keys in the sampler (no need to use sample offset control codes).
It wasn't used only for breaks, but also for your typical kick/hihat/snare techno beat as well.
added on the 2011-01-17 12:32:08 by lug00ber lug00ber

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