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Bleh.... What is up with all the negativity towards the hack?

I've just begun scratching the surface, but from what I can see PSL1GHT (the free, non-Sony SDK) already includes some samples that uses the RSX.

Anyway, if I have a machine in my house with a CPU and a display, I want to be able to code for it!
So I welcome all hacks that open up closed devices.

where have you been these latest months ? are you aware the Sony OS has been cracked ?


PC's are far more convenient to play pirate games.

geohot released tools to create pseudoretail packages that will run in a geohot 3.55 jailbreaked ps3.

What Sdw says... Just can't understand what the guys criticising hacking are doing here...

disregard them, they're mostly diehard sony fanbois.

it's not like there'll be an onslaught of ps3 demogroups.

Or any demo, I would say. Maybe some intros though.

@zerkman: PCs are far more convenient to do just about anything this jailbreak enables except play PS3 games. Hence, piracy.

@xernobyl ye of little faith.

@Insectecutor: I just mean there is no need for a jailbreak to play pirate PC games. And it is not considered a problem (is it ?), because the users must be able to install the software they want for it, program their own stuff, etc.

It's just about to be the same again on the ps3. And if this leads to piracy, then blame Sony who removed the "official" way of runnig Linux and allow users to program their own stuff in the first step.

The box said i could play games AND run Linux. Seems they lied. Once i payed the money for it, it's my hardware, and if i want to change something in it, it's none of Sony's business.

@zerkman: well I agree that serious hackers would've been less interested in busting open the PS3 if Sony hadn't removed OtherOS support. fail0verflow said as much in their 27C3 talk. So you're right, if this leads to piracy (which it will) Sony only have themselves to blame, by issuing the "challenge" to the hacker community by removing OtherOS, but also by making schoolboy mistakes in their security implementation.

Except making reverse engineering, which i understand can be quite fun (although i don't do it myself)...

it makes no difference anyhow. the next generation of consoles/ "Personal Computers" (lol) will be "cloud" based. try pirating a game when your computer is nothing but a dumb-terminal client being served binaries & personal data direct from MicroSoft and Sony's application/file servers and every click is monitored for "illegal" or "suspicious" client activity (such as, *gasp*, running a complier as an unauthorized/unregistered developer)

and all this current tech-media talk of whether we "have the right to do and run what programs we like on our own computers", or if our "personal computers can REALLY be considered personal in an age of network computing" is leading directly to this. This Sony hack is just going to add weight to all that speculation because it really is not going to be used by genuine people only interested in homebrew....it's going to be used by PIRATES and it will ultimately only help enforce this idea that our computer activity needs to be controlled.

this hack is bad news for homebrewers because we are approaching the stage in computer technology where homebrew activities CAN actually be prevented in the not too distant future and they will have their justifications (ie: the fact that "homebrew" on the PS3 was used primarily by pirates) for doing it all nicely lined-up and ready.

@button. Man. I wish you'd written the script for Tron: Legacy instead of whatever hack they shipped in.

I'm sure the first oldschool copperbar intros will be released any day now :)

ehhh...

"Don't do homebrew or it will be banned!!!1"

Everything is getting locked down these days. Perhaps in a few years, PCs too will be locked. Then we'll get a ton of cool hobbyist computers again with all kinds of funky hardware \o/

Or linux :(

Insectecutor: thanks. it takes effort to weave my innate paranoias into somewhat plausible future scenarios. glad someone appreciates it.

I'm quite afraid of cloud computing,but i think it will always be possible to install non commercial OSes that won't use it...


eg linux... ;p

AROS? :P

button: make a demo about it.

And the legal shit now hits the fan: www.geohot.com

USA is a bitch. :(

They had it coming. Both Sony and Georg.