do you think the sound in demoparties is too loud?
category: parties [glöplog]
sTEELER!!!!!
Yes, it's too loud. I prefer the small french Amstrad CPC parties where I can talk with other people :)
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i wonder, would all those people who're busy making demos in hotel rooms actually spend more than a few hours on a party if the music weren't so loud and they could communicate without big issues? i sure think the frenchos have a point.
i agree and disagree. i hate loud parties when i want to finish a prod - i hate quiet parties when i want to party. in the end i have decided to finish my prods always at home because i want to party :)
Strange enough. When I go to a bar with friends I complain that the music is so loud, there is smoke and sometimes we are standing still in the crowd. I am so bored, so annoyed and I want to sit somewhere at least or go away. When I am at a demoparty this doesn't apply, even if the music is more loud and the duration is 3 days (but I have a place to sit and work on my computer and there are also interesting people to talk with). I can't think what it would be for a person not relevant with the scene to have to visit a demoparty (girlfriends zomg.
wullon: the '@BP' bit is solved i guess
yes
Not only are they too loud, the soundsystems sound like a piece of wet toilet paper; bass and treble heavy with lots of distortion. blegh.
wait... what?
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Not only are they too loud, the soundsystems sound like a piece of wet toilet paper; bass and treble heavy with lots of distortion.
I refuse to believe that this was the case at BP, unless kb had to work on a really painful budget. That man knows what he's doing.
In general: Get better sound systems. We manage to have good sounding PAs at Kindergarden and Solskogen, and budgets for those parties are not exactly through the roof. At TG we have a concert grade PA system with a shift of three skilled engineers doing the mix. That's probably unattainable for most other parties though.
I suggest we let easter party be the trentsetter!
90dB max when there's no real need for the music.
90dB max when there's no real need for the music.
90dB SPL measured at a distance of 1km, surely.
Music should be loud, but it must have dynamics. What worries me is that 99.9% of demoscene music is just thumpthumpthumpthump at full volume, all the time, 1-bit sound basically. There's no forte without piano, all is relative.
lug00ber, agreed, I have to say that the sound was very good at the last BP, don't remember exactly about the years before.
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What worries me is that 99.9% of demoscene music is just thumpthumpthumpthump at full volume, all the time, 1-bit sound basically
That's a rather bold statement, now isn't it?
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I suggest we let easter party be the trentsetter!
90dB max when there's no real need for the music.
Let's just not play any sound at all! And also prohibit alcohol and have nurses walk around and ride our wheelchairs to bed when it's 21:00!
okkie, please arrange for nurses to ride me on my wheel chair
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Not any more or less bold than all the other rubbish statements about "demoscene music" :)Quote:What worries me is that 99.9% of demoscene music is just thumpthumpthumpthump at full volume, all the time, 1-bit sound basically
That's a rather bold statement, now isn't it?
Gloom has leading. We need to get rid of this rubbish demoscene music at parties and play something with dynamic range.
What about fighting the loudness war with replaygain?
To a certain extent you _need_ reduced dynamics in a party setting (especially indoor), as lug00ber said people are not silent in the partyplace and other people may want to hear the music and not them. It's also what most people prefer :(
My main grief is that while a techno party usually last less than 12 hours, a demoparty last way longer. I think 4 hours/day of silence + 4h/day at a reduced volume/very dynamic music / ambient could do the trick (in a 24 hour day).
My main grief is that while a techno party usually last less than 12 hours, a demoparty last way longer. I think 4 hours/day of silence + 4h/day at a reduced volume/very dynamic music / ambient could do the trick (in a 24 hour day).
I blame dubstep
Well, loud music is kind of like smoking. It's harmful. If you want it, fine, but it shouldn't be forced on people. Sure, you could wear ear protectors, but you also want to talk to people.
At a demoparty, we definitely need loud music for the compos and some of the events (the definition of loud enough is a whole other question :) but for the rest of the time I think it should be kept reasonable, otherwise it's forcing people to either leave or fuck up their hearing.
Maybe what I'd choose if I organised a party: loud compos + concert type events, fairly loud upto maybe 2-3am (or a couple of hours after the compos if they're running late :), silence until maybe noon, then a slow ramp up to the next round of compos or whatever in the evening.
At a demoparty, we definitely need loud music for the compos and some of the events (the definition of loud enough is a whole other question :) but for the rest of the time I think it should be kept reasonable, otherwise it's forcing people to either leave or fuck up their hearing.
Maybe what I'd choose if I organised a party: loud compos + concert type events, fairly loud upto maybe 2-3am (or a couple of hours after the compos if they're running late :), silence until maybe noon, then a slow ramp up to the next round of compos or whatever in the evening.
I've never been to a demo party where the music was blaring at high volume 24/7. Usually the music is off during the night and some low volume music plays during the day.
It's people that bring giant speakers that cause ruckus.
It's people that bring giant speakers that cause ruckus.