vc express 2010
category: code [glöplog]
Who needs lines anyway? All you need is ribbons!
I like the combo VS2008 + Visual Assist X.
Anyway as previously mentioned, CodeBlocks did improve... I want to check it out again.
Anyway as previously mentioned, CodeBlocks did improve... I want to check it out again.
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I like the combo VS2008 + Visual Assist X.
thats me
Yep, that's what I use as well. I just hope that my student license doesn't run out before VA X has full VS2010 support... Coz as I get VS2010 for free, I'm at least going to try it out.
looks like it uses TR1 as part of C++0x ?
src: http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/Going+Deep/VC-10-Stephan-T-Lavavej-and-Damien-Watkins-Inside-STL/
src: http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/Going+Deep/VC-10-Stephan-T-Lavavej-and-Damien-Watkins-Inside-STL/
there is not reason to still do c++ in 2010, expect for :
- games
- demos / realtime or multimedia applications
- applications that require good performance / low memory footprint (basically professional software like 3ds max, photoshop, premiere or so )
most modern languages (c#, java, python, perl, ...) will give you more flexibility with less lines of code and easier maintenance
- games
- demos / realtime or multimedia applications
- applications that require good performance / low memory footprint (basically professional software like 3ds max, photoshop, premiere or so )
most modern languages (c#, java, python, perl, ...) will give you more flexibility with less lines of code and easier maintenance
you're so 2000
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there is not reason to still do c++ in 2010, expect for :
(list of applications money is made from for the last 10 years)
...or you just use the D programming language and get both: performance and productivity :)
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(list of applications money is made from for the last 10 years
Ah. The COBOL argument. ;)
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most modern languages (c#, java, python, perl, ...) will give you more flexibility with less lines of code and easier maintenance
Actually, they give you _less_ flexibility and trade that for more sanity. :)
With VS 2010 it is pormissed to make the entity framework model from scratch and then exporting it to the database, not from the other direction that you do in VS 2008.
Anyway, not a really interesting feature for the DX programmers :)
Anyway, not a really interesting feature for the DX programmers :)
I use it. I don't care. All I know is that the IDE is so blue it makes me think I'm coding in pouet.
Its all been downhill since QBasic.
Gorilla.bas
We use VS 2010 TFS (Still Beta) at work, for just about everything: requirements, version control, bug tracking, really everything. It rocks, seems like it is possible to do a all in one solution that really works. Oh, it's slower...well, get a new PC then. Occasionally you just can't avoid that. Anyway, at home I simply have the Windows SDK installed, this does the job for me.
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most modern languages (c#, java, python, perl, ...) will give you more flexibility with less lines of code and easier maintenance
Actually, they give you _less_ flexibility and trade that for more sanity. :)
perl and sanity in the same thought?
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Oh, it's slower...well, get a new PC then.
The part of VS I use the most is the text editor. I repeat, text editor. It's 2010. There's absolutely, positively, definitely no excuse at all for a text editor on a 2010 (or 2008 or 2005 or 2002 or 1998 or 1995!) machine not to be able to keep up with me typing at far less than 10 keystrokes a second. That's why I stopped using VisualAssist after less than one week every single time I tried to use it (I think I'm at four attempts now).
At some point, I just don't care about the feature lists anymore. If you're unable to give me a text editing experience that works, without regular half-second pauses and furious swapping as I finish typing keywords, and without 15-second freezes every hour or so, then get the hell out of here and fix your product, because guess what, you've thoroughly fucked it up.
Get a text editor then that suits your need. There ARE text editors that are better than VS, you know.
killer, next you'll advocate using a separate build system and debugger.
When I'm coding in Windows I just use Pellas C and win-SciTE (wscite). It works. =]
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there is not reason to still do c++ in 2010
Yet another haskell zealot.
What ryg said. Ok, Visual Assist X is fast enough thanks to the Intel X25-M in my work computer but the few times I had to work with eg. XCode or Eclipse were... fun. At some point I started replicating the XCode project in VS to use that as editor, then compile-over-SMB-share in XCode. It was just THAT horrible.
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there is not reason to still do c++ in 2010, expect for :
(list of applications money is made from for the last 10 years)
gargaj: if you think the bulk of commercially developed software is games, demos and photoshop then you have a really twisted idea about reality.
hint: internet, office automation. in both fields, only the database backends and low-level communication layers are performance-criticial enough to warrant using a dinosaur like c(++).
i mean, even you didn't code your web stuff (the partysys, pouet v2, etc) in c++, now did you? why didn't you (i'm wondering now)
i'd turn it around: i think that the *only* reasons to use c++ for anything except inner loops are because of legacy code (photoshop), team expertise (games - cost of reeducation vs cost saving yadayada), and plain old stubbornness (demos)
that's for end-user PC applications btw. i'm not considering the software in your TV and iphone apps and the likes.