Sumotori Dreams sighted in Conan O'Brien's show!
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You're welcome :)
fuckings to Conan O'Brien :D
Archee should make a commercial version out of it. Would be instant bestseller.
wow, i hope archee got some good royalties for that piece of content.
Haha. Conan O'Brien show is huge. Congrats to Archee.
What the hell. Nobody gets any royalties for a few seconds of ingame footage you capitalist scum.
Yeah, that pretty much falls under fair use actually. But pretty cool they used it in Conan O'Brien's show!
hahaha, cool!
neat!
awesome :-D
Now if sumotori would've been on the iphone the downloads would be up through the roof.
Now if sumotori would've been on the iphone the downloads would be up through the roof.
must be the biggest unaware demoscene exposure thusfar, assuming there are a few million ppl watching that show at least.
He's not reviewing Sumotori or making fun of it, he's using it as stock footage to make a joke about another game. So the footage from the Avatar game is fair use (since it's the subject of the joke), but the footage from Sumotori isn't. It's still pretty cool though.
paniq: well, I do remember someone talking about branding themselves once...
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So the footage from the Avatar game is fair use (since it's the subject of the joke), but the footage from Sumotori isn't.
Why isn't it fair use? I can't follow the logic here.
doom is right - parodying Avatar makes the use of Avatar is fair use (because the "purpose and character" of the use revolves around Avatar), but the use of Sumotori is not a parody of Sumotori itself, but as a component in something else's parody.
But is the Sumotori-footage something they captured themselves, or something from an existing video on the web or elsewhere?
I'm pretty sure it's just a Youtube video, though considering the frankly ridiculous amount of videos on Youtube, it's gonna be hard to find. (If someone wants to, that is.)
I think demosceners have become a bit too copyright crazy since the whole Timbaland thing.
He's using the material to make a joke about another game. So he's not commenting on Sumotori in any way, he's just using it to deliver a joke.
The question is if the joke is "Avatar is so unfinished it's like this video of two blocky characters falling over", or if it's "Avatar is so unfinished it's like Sumotori". If enough people knew Sumotori, then you could probably argue the latter and claim fair use, since Sumotori would be part of the joke.
I don't think a lot of people would recognise it. OTOH that is quite a ridiculous number of videos on Youtube, and of course it might be legit even if it's not fair use, like something to do with what rights you give up when posting stuff on Youtube or releasing at Breakpoint.
The question is if the joke is "Avatar is so unfinished it's like this video of two blocky characters falling over", or if it's "Avatar is so unfinished it's like Sumotori". If enough people knew Sumotori, then you could probably argue the latter and claim fair use, since Sumotori would be part of the joke.
I don't think a lot of people would recognise it. OTOH that is quite a ridiculous number of videos on Youtube, and of course it might be legit even if it's not fair use, like something to do with what rights you give up when posting stuff on Youtube or releasing at Breakpoint.
The guy(s) who made Sumotori should have no problems getting a publishing deal for the game now. Or free tickets to Conan O'Brien.
What paniq and Okkie said.
I'm inclined to believe that doom is correct, but think of it this way: if Warner Bros tried to pull Second Reality from the internet because of the "10 seconds to transmission" sample (from the 1989 Batman movie, fact fans...), we'd all be outraged and calling them litigious bastards. Going after the Conan show for a similar level of infringement (it's not like they're selling the game, or passing it off as their own work) would be equally dumb.
I'm inclined to believe that doom is correct, but think of it this way: if Warner Bros tried to pull Second Reality from the internet because of the "10 seconds to transmission" sample (from the 1989 Batman movie, fact fans...), we'd all be outraged and calling them litigious bastards. Going after the Conan show for a similar level of infringement (it's not like they're selling the game, or passing it off as their own work) would be equally dumb.
im waiting what Magic has to say about this.
I'm not "going after" Conan mind, I think it's cool. But I never got how "fair use" can be so misunderstood. It's really not complicated.
what Gargaj said
