Unforseen problem with 50mbps connection
category: general [glöplog]
what has been seen cannot be unseen
:D
Do I keep track of the demos I watched. Hell no. I watch the latest shit if I think it might appeal to me and search for some old classics when I'm in the mood to. I also get recommendations by friends. And then there's the rating system. If something is really good I keep it on disk or even create video of it.
So. Now wtf is wrong about IMDB or your fucking own EMDB?
So. Now wtf is wrong about IMDB or your fucking own EMDB?
Thanks, this is more like it. I will return after lunch with my more in-depth thoughts about the problems with a database such as IMDB, in the meantime would you care to elaborarte on the classification process you do to reach the conclusion that a demo is one "I think might appeal to me"?
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I will return after lunch with my more in-depth thoughts
dude seriously, I already take 6 hours of lectures of each useless course in the field of robotics out there. you are not my professor. and about returning back, PLEASE DON'T!
attendance in this class is voluntary and wont affect your final grades :)
Decipher: do not fall for the flamebait.
I shall resist!
A vast source of information such as IMDB/pouet is a great starting point when trying to figure out what to see next, but as with any large collection of data it is useless to us unless its somehow classified and rated, order has to be brought to chaos (although even here the possibility of throwing yourself into something totally random with an open frame of mind and no prejudices can be very rewarding at times).The problems with IMDB are several and quite complex:
-The rating system
Ratings on IMDB can serve you as a hint to whether this movie is whatchable or utter bullcrap. It takes a democratic approach where users of the database give their vote on movies. However since these ratings are based on opinion, the voters opinion may vary greatly from my own. And especially so when you ponder the differences in taste of those "mainstream" and of those who are "hardcore".
-Order by creator and participants
Just because you made one awesome demo/movie doesnt mean all that you do is pure gold flying out your ass. Classifications such as these can be helpful at times, but in its vacuum it doesnt really tell us much.
This leads us to a problem with jointing search parameters, since a characteristic i value in a movie isnt certainly something that can be measured (example: this movie really opened up my thoughts on the Balkan conflict)
As we move into a time with more and more information overload i see it as paramount to assess skills in which to make some sort of sense to this mess.
The tools at our disposal, as kindly presented by RareWtFailWhale, are as follows:
- To watch whatever is 'newest', this builds on the promise that we, as a culture, is always evolving and as such whats newest has the best chances of being whats most evolved, and something i can probably put in context with my own time. Theres problem with this too ofcourse because _so much of whats available is new_. The input of data into the database is already at such a high pace you wont be able to see everything "new"
- Personal preference, this is something we build up over time. We learn to know what kinds of movies/demos we appreciate to use as a point to go further. This is not entirely beneficial, however, since the movie i NEED to see isnt neseccarily the movie i think i WANT to see.
-Delve into the classics. If something has withstood the tides of time and still comes up with a high rating, chances are that theres something valuable to see. Even this has its problems since what was good in an older context may not necessarily be of equal value in our time. Yet the system clings on to these 'classics' because it has an inherent reluctance to constant change (a system put in place to make order out of chaos probably wont promote chaos)
-Recommendations from friends. I as a watcher has a limited supply of 'watches' i can do in my own time. sometimes i will hit something really interesting but alot of the time it will be a miss. By trying to link me to persona i think resemble my own (in this case "friends") we get to share our "hits" without having to wade through all the "missed" they had to to get to the "hit". Now, i dont know about your friends but my own are a pretty varied bunch and attempts on making any valuable "trust metric" has always left me with a strange feeling that it isnt the right way to go about these things.
There is a call for another way of thinking to find our way through this chaos, and we are the ones who need to figure it out. i hope my thoughts so far can help to narrow the discussion and to inspire new solutions.
-The rating system
Ratings on IMDB can serve you as a hint to whether this movie is whatchable or utter bullcrap. It takes a democratic approach where users of the database give their vote on movies. However since these ratings are based on opinion, the voters opinion may vary greatly from my own. And especially so when you ponder the differences in taste of those "mainstream" and of those who are "hardcore".
-Order by creator and participants
Just because you made one awesome demo/movie doesnt mean all that you do is pure gold flying out your ass. Classifications such as these can be helpful at times, but in its vacuum it doesnt really tell us much.
This leads us to a problem with jointing search parameters, since a characteristic i value in a movie isnt certainly something that can be measured (example: this movie really opened up my thoughts on the Balkan conflict)
As we move into a time with more and more information overload i see it as paramount to assess skills in which to make some sort of sense to this mess.
The tools at our disposal, as kindly presented by RareWtFailWhale, are as follows:
- To watch whatever is 'newest', this builds on the promise that we, as a culture, is always evolving and as such whats newest has the best chances of being whats most evolved, and something i can probably put in context with my own time. Theres problem with this too ofcourse because _so much of whats available is new_. The input of data into the database is already at such a high pace you wont be able to see everything "new"
- Personal preference, this is something we build up over time. We learn to know what kinds of movies/demos we appreciate to use as a point to go further. This is not entirely beneficial, however, since the movie i NEED to see isnt neseccarily the movie i think i WANT to see.
-Delve into the classics. If something has withstood the tides of time and still comes up with a high rating, chances are that theres something valuable to see. Even this has its problems since what was good in an older context may not necessarily be of equal value in our time. Yet the system clings on to these 'classics' because it has an inherent reluctance to constant change (a system put in place to make order out of chaos probably wont promote chaos)
-Recommendations from friends. I as a watcher has a limited supply of 'watches' i can do in my own time. sometimes i will hit something really interesting but alot of the time it will be a miss. By trying to link me to persona i think resemble my own (in this case "friends") we get to share our "hits" without having to wade through all the "missed" they had to to get to the "hit". Now, i dont know about your friends but my own are a pretty varied bunch and attempts on making any valuable "trust metric" has always left me with a strange feeling that it isnt the right way to go about these things.
There is a call for another way of thinking to find our way through this chaos, and we are the ones who need to figure it out. i hope my thoughts so far can help to narrow the discussion and to inspire new solutions.
Adok? Adok is that you?
I don't like "we" in the above text. Go talk about movies with some people that are into movies.
I use my penis to keep track on what demos or movies I have seen.
Ehh sorry, I meaned.. my brain. Memory, the obvious, you know :P
I wholeheartedly agree with Puryx. Besides, what's with the catchy scientific / academic format you are using? Are you seriously Adok? GTFO! (sorry Gloom, couldn't resist :P)
zoom oh god no!
Flixter kept loosing my ratings (ok the facebook app of flixter) whenever i rated a random movie i had already rated. Obviously it didn't tell me i had rated it, either.
Visual bookshelf was another similar POS which didn't actually tell me if a book was in my bookshelf.
While i kinda get what wWales is getting at, i don't personally see such a problem with movies or demos. After all they're entertainment, and shouldn't be taken that seriously (ok sometimes there's a snippet of social commentary in there somewhere, but i digress)...
Flixter kept loosing my ratings (ok the facebook app of flixter) whenever i rated a random movie i had already rated. Obviously it didn't tell me i had rated it, either.
Visual bookshelf was another similar POS which didn't actually tell me if a book was in my bookshelf.
While i kinda get what wWales is getting at, i don't personally see such a problem with movies or demos. After all they're entertainment, and shouldn't be taken that seriously (ok sometimes there's a snippet of social commentary in there somewhere, but i digress)...
www.jinni.com
People's motives why they like something vary a lot.
If you want to have decent results you have to dedicate some brains + time to it. If amazon (as in flixster) tells you that you will love the newest rubber sex doll, because you bought a rubber ducky last time that might no really be what you're aiming for. Though I love Indiana Jones, I thought the latest one was crap. Though I like Radiohead I might not like their latests album.
I'm not really into that automated process thing.
Concerning music: I get the best recommendations from friends and from spending time to read reviews and actually listen to shit. I have a last.fm account, but I still need to listen to the recommended bands somehow.
Concerning demos: I look at the newest releases. I look at the platform, the current rating, the comments and the category/size. If I think it could be worth watching I do it.
So: No rocket science. Brain.exe + time is needed. Plus you may still live on if you miss one great movie or band so skip that "NEED"...
If you want to have decent results you have to dedicate some brains + time to it. If amazon (as in flixster) tells you that you will love the newest rubber sex doll, because you bought a rubber ducky last time that might no really be what you're aiming for. Though I love Indiana Jones, I thought the latest one was crap. Though I like Radiohead I might not like their latests album.
I'm not really into that automated process thing.
Concerning music: I get the best recommendations from friends and from spending time to read reviews and actually listen to shit. I have a last.fm account, but I still need to listen to the recommended bands somehow.
Concerning demos: I look at the newest releases. I look at the platform, the current rating, the comments and the category/size. If I think it could be worth watching I do it.
So: No rocket science. Brain.exe + time is needed. Plus you may still live on if you miss one great movie or band so skip that "NEED"...
wWales: MS Access. Simply create a table entry for each movie you've seen then youll never lose trck.
And rating systems only say one thing: what the moronic masses consider to be "the best" and let's not forget Titanic was considered one of the "greatest movies of all time" by these people.
best to watch every movie ever made and judge for yourself.
And rating systems only say one thing: what the moronic masses consider to be "the best" and let's not forget Titanic was considered one of the "greatest movies of all time" by these people.
best to watch every movie ever made and judge for yourself.
I still wonder if there are any movies you must see before you die.
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A vast source of information such as IMDB/pouet is a great starting point when trying to figure out what to see next, but as with any large collection of data it is useless to us unless its somehow classified and rated, order has to be brought to chaos (although even here the possibility of throwing yourself into something totally random with an open frame of mind and no prejudices can be very rewarding at times).The problems with IMDB are several and quite complex:
-The rating system
Ratings on IMDB can serve you as a hint to whether this movie is whatchable or utter bullcrap. It takes a democratic approach where users of the database give their vote on movies. However since these ratings are based on opinion, the voters opinion may vary greatly from my own. And especially so when you ponder the differences in taste of those "mainstream" and of those who are "hardcore".
-Order by creator and participants
Just because you made one awesome demo/movie doesnt mean all that you do is pure gold flying out your ass. Classifications such as these can be helpful at times, but in its vacuum it doesnt really tell us much.
This leads us to a problem with jointing search parameters, since a characteristic i value in a movie isnt certainly something that can be measured (example: this movie really opened up my thoughts on the Balkan conflict)
As we move into a time with more and more information overload i see it as paramount to assess skills in which to make some sort of sense to this mess.
The tools at our disposal, as kindly presented by RareWtFailWhale, are as follows:
- To watch whatever is 'newest', this builds on the promise that we, as a culture, is always evolving and as such whats newest has the best chances of being whats most evolved, and something i can probably put in context with my own time. Theres problem with this too ofcourse because _so much of whats available is new_. The input of data into the database is already at such a high pace you wont be able to see everything "new"
- Personal preference, this is something we build up over time. We learn to know what kinds of movies/demos we appreciate to use as a point to go further. This is not entirely beneficial, however, since the movie i NEED to see isnt neseccarily the movie i think i WANT to see.
-Delve into the classics. If something has withstood the tides of time and still comes up with a high rating, chances are that theres something valuable to see. Even this has its problems since what was good in an older context may not necessarily be of equal value in our time. Yet the system clings on to these 'classics' because it has an inherent reluctance to constant change (a system put in place to make order out of chaos probably wont promote chaos)
-Recommendations from friends. I as a watcher has a limited supply of 'watches' i can do in my own time. sometimes i will hit something really interesting but alot of the time it will be a miss. By trying to link me to persona i think resemble my own (in this case "friends") we get to share our "hits" without having to wade through all the "missed" they had to to get to the "hit". Now, i dont know about your friends but my own are a pretty varied bunch and attempts on making any valuable "trust metric" has always left me with a strange feeling that it isnt the right way to go about these things.
There is a call for another way of thinking to find our way through this chaos, and we are the ones who need to figure it out. i hope my thoughts so far can help to narrow the discussion and to inspire new solutions.
tl;dr
yes this is very unforseen [sic]
scene released movies?
