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Here Gargaj, let me fix that for you

what is it all the trendy kids these days are listening to?

What ps said.

hey elph! don't want to do selfpromotion, but in this case it's the easiest thing to do. :) check out http://make.tv/dubby_terror_show/show/27383, it's a internet tv show recording from tuesday, where i was spinning some rare jamaican roots and dub tunes, intertwined with some uk dub, from approx. 30:00 to 90:00. there is also a tracklist on the website, so there you have your recommendations. :)

as for uk garage, there should be some very nice oldschool uk garage mixes by 2krazy (a.k.a. dersert/funk!) somewhere, i hope they are still online. i will check when i'm home.

and of course there is NOTHING wrong with king tubby and lee perry best-ofs, it is just not everything there is =)

Cheers guys, great input!

Ok, I know I did mention I wanted to do D&B or DubStep, but admittedly I'll try anything as long as it sounds good. Puryx is a great example of this, I don't think I can fault any of his work. :)

But, this thread could be handy for anyone wanting to get into making music, (demowise or whatever). When you think about it, the demoscene has a lot of bloody great composers and could be a great repository for getting people started making their own music, (and demos, but that can be started in another thread).

Keep up the good advice. ;)

that sounds way too desperate, and i do not think you should make music under such conditions...

dipswitch: nice set, will download mix at your myspace, thanks.

thx =)

Dipswitch: You're right, on hindsight it does sound a little desperate, but it wasn't meant to be. :)

-learn to play your violin (better, if you already can play)
-examine Renoise Files to learn from them
-if you don`t quite know how to transcribe your ideas musically, share the ideas and make use of the feedback and tips you get
-try, experiment, just do it

There is a common saying in German: "Es ist noch kein Meister vom Himmel gefallen"
Roughly translated by meaning: -accept that it takes time to develope your skills, don`t get impatient and don`t let other people discourage you if they don`t like what you do.

In this case "BITS" are/is a good example...pouet people flame every prod directly to hell, but Solo2 does not care...maybe even he will do better in some time...^^

PS: receiving constructive criticism is of course a good way to improve yourself so care about that.^^

With "dont care" I meant, don`t care about brainless criticism like "die in a fire" or such^^

Well, some people should even consider to die in a fire but thats another story/discussion/thread^^

just to avoid any misunderstandings ;O)

Yeah, picking up some basic music theory is definitely a good idea (I regret having neglecting that early on). At the very least some basic primers on chords and scales. But even then, practice is most important - by all means be patient while developing your skills and don't release simply because you can. Good music needs time.

Oh, and I'm in the "listen to as much music as you can" camp :).

Or he gets a laugh from it. ;)

have fun, experiment. And don't be shy to copy and ripoff, it's for educational purpose anyway, right ? ;)
something i noticed, a lot of great trackers have done remakes/covers of wellknown tunes. that can be greatly helpful to do that, or at least, open up a mod and look into its guts! discover how it works!
I've done some great discoveries just by transcribing modules to other formats.

And generally, don't go crazy with the production side. It's very easy to overdo it and end up spending 10 hours on compressors and EQs and shit before even having a decent track. If the track is shit it will sound shit, be it in old General MIDI or with your crazy 400$ synths and 100 hours of mixing and mastering.

lots of really good advice here..personally i compose music in a far different style than what you are into, but i suspect some of the same principles apply:

1. if you like it, be happy with it
2. listen without learning (hard concept)
3. experiment
4. you CAN NOT fail! ever.

music is you. it is safe. keep at it. good luck :)

cheers!

In order to find those, he pretty much _has_ to go through the process of trying everything there is. After a while you'll end up with probably less than 10 vst(i)s you find useful and interesting and develop your sound that way.

But yes, concentrating on what's important is a good idea. F.e. use only one or two instances of a good piano or acoustic guitar vsti. Work out a good melody and general structure. Being less distracted with hundreds of knobs to twiddle, you'll get much more actual work done this way. The idea is to first work on the song rather than the sound.

Another approach is what some people describe as "standing maching band" technique. Work on one pattern only (7-10s) and make it sound really good. Let is have all the ingredients the "rolled out" song will have, but don't start rolling it out unless you are completely satisfied with that one pattern.

Also, sometimes you just can't make an idea work. Throw it away and start anew. Throwing away stuff that you spend a lot of time on is hard, but if it sucks, it sucks. :)

tomoya, wrong: what is it all the trendy kids these days are listening to? \o/

Gloom, I noticed something funny. In the generative systems thread you say:



Whereas now here you say:



An interesting juxtaposition.

What's people's preferred choice of software for making music?

you'll get many different answers, there's no set standard nowadays

That I realise, but considering it's the demoscene, I thought people would have done it oldskool with trackers.

not really

Besides, you're asking a question, but what are you going to use it for?

if you think music is top-down: renoise, modplug, madtracker
if you think music is left-to-right: cubase, acid, nuendo, reaper, ableton...

i use renoise, but not because it's "oldschool", but because it is convenient for me.