Teh shit :(
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I'm not saying you should learn math for demoscene. ;) If you do, you may find it disappointing, but if you just learn it for any other reason, you may be positively surprised.
Like, you can learn math just for the sake of it. Don't rely on the professors, go to a library and get good books. Heck, buy good books, if they are good enough you won't be disappointed. If you learn to understand math, that is *really* understand, its inner beauty will open itself to you. Then it will be much easier for you to study, and you will be able create the absolutely new effects for demos! How about it? Of course, understanding math is not actually requiered to finish the university, to force yourself to memorize is often enough, and that's how probably most people do it, but hey, it can also be different, and will give youreally some *quality* of education. And there is simply no other way for people like yourself and myself, i would think.
You know, all good mathematicians were inherently curious but lazy people. What makes them good is that they are curious, trying to understand, and search for solutions which reduce an amount of stupid work. Think about it. I would think that you could actually master it, unless of course you are too old and crusty. :>
BTW, take a look at "Spektrum der Wissenschaft, Digest Mathematik 1&2". It's nothing hardcore, it's very easy reading! Perhaps something like that can make you get interested?
Like, you can learn math just for the sake of it. Don't rely on the professors, go to a library and get good books. Heck, buy good books, if they are good enough you won't be disappointed. If you learn to understand math, that is *really* understand, its inner beauty will open itself to you. Then it will be much easier for you to study, and you will be able create the absolutely new effects for demos! How about it? Of course, understanding math is not actually requiered to finish the university, to force yourself to memorize is often enough, and that's how probably most people do it, but hey, it can also be different, and will give youreally some *quality* of education. And there is simply no other way for people like yourself and myself, i would think.
You know, all good mathematicians were inherently curious but lazy people. What makes them good is that they are curious, trying to understand, and search for solutions which reduce an amount of stupid work. Think about it. I would think that you could actually master it, unless of course you are too old and crusty. :>
BTW, take a look at "Spektrum der Wissenschaft, Digest Mathematik 1&2". It's nothing hardcore, it's very easy reading! Perhaps something like that can make you get interested?
I think I will continue struggling with the university but I don't care. Sometimes I would like to read maths for myself and understand maths rather than reading them for my studies, but I am already eating most of my time with another geeky hobby and that's enough for me. So,. university is just a struggle,. don't worry, I might take 1-2+ years, not that much left, and I am finished. But learning maths for myself, I might do this much later..
The reason people write their stuff in scary math-expressions is because it is the cleanest way to explain things. If you write it down in text, people *are* going to misinterpret what you wrote. If, however, you just jot it down in leet mathspeak then it will be completely unambiguous.
(And honestly, basic calculus and trig isn't THAT hard, it just needs to be explained properly)
(And honestly, basic calculus and trig isn't THAT hard, it just needs to be explained properly)
The scariest math expressions are usually of the form: a
Sure it looks deceivingly simple for a layman, but if you look carefully you'll see the implied summation over a set of functions there. Heck, everyone should realize it by the first glance. No? Are you stupid or what?
Sure it looks deceivingly simple for a layman, but if you look carefully you'll see the implied summation over a set of functions there. Heck, everyone should realize it by the first glance. No? Are you stupid or what?
perhaps i don't get it, but i just see the letter "a".
hehe
as long as you guys haven't got a panic bout, can't simply imagine what teh shit is about :)
suicide? heroin? new life? gay bars?
it's all up to you mmmkay?
damn, you all have too much time :)
as long as you guys haven't got a panic bout, can't simply imagine what teh shit is about :)
suicide? heroin? new life? gay bars?
it's all up to you mmmkay?
damn, you all have too much time :)
Go and lie on the floor and pretend to be hurt. When someone comes to help you (best do it in a public place or you could wait ages) quickly pass them your wallet and shout:
"HELP, I'M BEING MUGGED!!"
Roll around on the floor holding your belly and plead the person not to hit you again.
You will make lots of friends and the person who came to help you will be VERY unpopular. Two birds with one stone.
"HELP, I'M BEING MUGGED!!"
Roll around on the floor holding your belly and plead the person not to hit you again.
You will make lots of friends and the person who came to help you will be VERY unpopular. Two birds with one stone.
Lol!
Most things are simple. The unfortunate is that all of them are presented as being complex.
I disagree :)
Once you understand them, they become simple.
People prefer simple answers.
I would suggest to reuse the space in this thread to carry on the discussions from the oneliner, which were:
Optimus hates Internet, because it generates spam.
Optimus hates e-mail, because he receives spam through it.
Optimus hates non-web-based e-mail, because he loves e-mail and internet so much, that he even has to use it in cafes and elsewhere. And he doesn't even think of acessing SMTP or IMAP through a free alternative web-mail service. (hint, hint) - or installing one at his greek university UNIX per ssh!
Optimus hates UNIX because only Unix makes it so easy to convert a PDF into a PS or the other way around. Or the same utils ported to Windows, but he hates them because they are from UNIX.
Optimus hates google, because it doesn't find the spot right below his own nose, because that's where the ideal program for convertion from PS to PDF lies. You simply have to take a Windows installation disk, and install any PostScript compatible printer. Then you take your PDF viewer, and print on this printer, and say print to a file. You get a PRN file. You rename it to .PS and you're all set. It's that easy. And who doesn't know this is... paste a word.
That's what i'd say him if he asked a question on the BBS. But since he has done that in a Oneliner, i tried to answer there and my finger slipped off to "Enter". Whoops, partial answer. But well, Optimus will have to live without the answer then, it's his fault anyway.
Optimus hates Internet, because it generates spam.
Optimus hates e-mail, because he receives spam through it.
Optimus hates non-web-based e-mail, because he loves e-mail and internet so much, that he even has to use it in cafes and elsewhere. And he doesn't even think of acessing SMTP or IMAP through a free alternative web-mail service. (hint, hint) - or installing one at his greek university UNIX per ssh!
Optimus hates UNIX because only Unix makes it so easy to convert a PDF into a PS or the other way around. Or the same utils ported to Windows, but he hates them because they are from UNIX.
Optimus hates google, because it doesn't find the spot right below his own nose, because that's where the ideal program for convertion from PS to PDF lies. You simply have to take a Windows installation disk, and install any PostScript compatible printer. Then you take your PDF viewer, and print on this printer, and say print to a file. You get a PRN file. You rename it to .PS and you're all set. It's that easy. And who doesn't know this is... paste a word.
That's what i'd say him if he asked a question on the BBS. But since he has done that in a Oneliner, i tried to answer there and my finger slipped off to "Enter". Whoops, partial answer. But well, Optimus will have to live without the answer then, it's his fault anyway.
...and thus started eye's transformation into an another fine specimen of Optimii...
Ah, yeah, i forgot to say that PS usually grows in size a lot compared to PDF. PDF is a subset of PS, but with fairly efficient compression for some data types, including images. Why would you want a PS anyway?
Optimus, you would have to admit: UNIX is not so good for a desktop, but it is absolutely *invaluable* for a server use. The reason, you can do *everything* you need to set up it through a command line, which you can tunnel per SSH and access from Germany or elsewhere.
I would think you have an IMAP mailbox in your greek university which can grow very large in size. And which probably has a very well set up Spamassasin, which marks SPAM and virus-like mails much better than every Yahoo-like service, but it *never* deletes or marks wanted messages. It seems to me that everything i send to GMX or Yahoo people gets filtered out. ;) So then you only have to write a tiny script to get these marked messages actually deleted. You can also create IMAP folders and automatically sort messages from people you know, mailing lists, and so on. Then you can bolt on a web interface or use some access service like web2mail.
Like, universities are usually filled by UNIX machines and you would usually be forced to use them, it puzzles me a lot you haven't made yourself even a bit more aquainted in these 3 years!
Don't miss my last message!
Optimus, you would have to admit: UNIX is not so good for a desktop, but it is absolutely *invaluable* for a server use. The reason, you can do *everything* you need to set up it through a command line, which you can tunnel per SSH and access from Germany or elsewhere.
I would think you have an IMAP mailbox in your greek university which can grow very large in size. And which probably has a very well set up Spamassasin, which marks SPAM and virus-like mails much better than every Yahoo-like service, but it *never* deletes or marks wanted messages. It seems to me that everything i send to GMX or Yahoo people gets filtered out. ;) So then you only have to write a tiny script to get these marked messages actually deleted. You can also create IMAP folders and automatically sort messages from people you know, mailing lists, and so on. Then you can bolt on a web interface or use some access service like web2mail.
Like, universities are usually filled by UNIX machines and you would usually be forced to use them, it puzzles me a lot you haven't made yourself even a bit more aquainted in these 3 years!
Don't miss my last message!
eye: To do all the above stuff, Optimus would have to actually spend some time trying to learn something new. Apparently that seems to be very difficult and discouraging for Optimus. As with almost everything about him.
Gargaj: i have been trying to be at least somewhat humorous. Or rather sarcastic, but it's the same in my current state of mind. And if i complain about my life, at least i make it short!
moT: the world is simply too big for some people. And forces more information on them than they can handle. Give Optimus some time to boil down. And perhaps see him change as he finishes his studies and feels much less depressed. ;)
moT: the world is simply too big for some people. And forces more information on them than they can handle. Give Optimus some time to boil down. And perhaps see him change as he finishes his studies and feels much less depressed. ;)
The problem is that I am a simple user (no matter if I code teh shit). I don't even know what SMTP, IMAP or ssh means and I won't sit down writting a script or compiling any code. And I just never had time to try Linux/Unix, nor did I have some serious reasons doing that, rather than the fact that they are very popular. But I don't want to seek into them just for that. When I have a serious reason I might do it, today I don't feel any shame when someone says to me "How can you be a geek and not having tried Linux?" (Lol!).
"Give Optimus some time to boil down. And perhaps see him change as he finishes his studies and feels much less depressed. ;)"
Why change? You don't like me as I am? And why should I care??? :P
As for PS, simply when I tried to print a PDF file to the university printer room, I didn't received it and they told me that there is a problem/bug by sending request to print PDFs so I had to convert them to PS and try again. Also,. here the computers are restricted, I can't install some programms, there was a programm I found for exactly what I need, however it needed Goshtscript 8.11. In my home, I had 8.10 (Ugh! YES, I hate that too! Just for a 0.01 to not being able to do my work. Fuck 0.01,. convert it with BUGs, convert it with nasty viruses,. convert it with pink colors, I don't care,.. I just want to print ThAT SHIT!!!)
"Give Optimus some time to boil down. And perhaps see him change as he finishes his studies and feels much less depressed. ;)"
Why change? You don't like me as I am? And why should I care??? :P
As for PS, simply when I tried to print a PDF file to the university printer room, I didn't received it and they told me that there is a problem/bug by sending request to print PDFs so I had to convert them to PS and try again. Also,. here the computers are restricted, I can't install some programms, there was a programm I found for exactly what I need, however it needed Goshtscript 8.11. In my home, I had 8.10 (Ugh! YES, I hate that too! Just for a 0.01 to not being able to do my work. Fuck 0.01,. convert it with BUGs, convert it with nasty viruses,. convert it with pink colors, I don't care,.. I just want to print ThAT SHIT!!!)
Using Linux because you're a geek is the lamest thing i ever heard (or one of the lamest anyway).
You should use Linux because you are a coder and Linux is full of tools for coders :-). Also Linux has 'normal' OpenGL support... (f.e. my Linux is equipped with OpenGL 1.4, while my WinXP has 1.1. If i want to use something that appeared after 1.1. under WinXP -even as simple as multitexturing- i have to use extensions [messy work]. Under Linux, these are available to me without much work :-).
Also you should use Linux if you are a coder because most stuff comes in source code. Don't expect to understand everything, but if you just want a little feature to a program (f.e. a shortcut key for an action that the original programmer didn't thought to add), it's possible to edit the source and add it :-). Life is easier in Linux when you know how to code (even the basics).
Lastly you must use Linux because it does not have QBasic :-P. However it has C, C++, Java, shell scripts and many many more. Okay, it has a BASIC language, but it's heavilly influenced by C (f.e. var++ <-- that's a C trademark!). So just stick on C (or C++). :-).
You should use Linux because you are a coder and Linux is full of tools for coders :-). Also Linux has 'normal' OpenGL support... (f.e. my Linux is equipped with OpenGL 1.4, while my WinXP has 1.1. If i want to use something that appeared after 1.1. under WinXP -even as simple as multitexturing- i have to use extensions [messy work]. Under Linux, these are available to me without much work :-).
Also you should use Linux if you are a coder because most stuff comes in source code. Don't expect to understand everything, but if you just want a little feature to a program (f.e. a shortcut key for an action that the original programmer didn't thought to add), it's possible to edit the source and add it :-). Life is easier in Linux when you know how to code (even the basics).
Lastly you must use Linux because it does not have QBasic :-P. However it has C, C++, Java, shell scripts and many many more. Okay, it has a BASIC language, but it's heavilly influenced by C (f.e. var++ <-- that's a C trademark!). So just stick on C (or C++). :-).
Optimus: you cannot use normal installation procedures because they try to install software publically, and you have no right to do that. However, you can *always* install it in your home. Or just a few files and redirect the path...
And one last thing. You have ghostscript, right? Go check a few things:
* ghostscript\bin is in your path
* ghostscript\lib is preferably also in your path
So look in that last directory. See pdf2ps.bat (for Windows 9x) and pdf2ps.cmd (for Windows NT) ? NOW WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SEARCHING FOR ON THE NET???
Now, i think you cannot imagine that, but ghostscript is also installed on every university Unix system!!! with all these scripts. They have been there for more than i know. So go back to your university comp, and type
pdf2ps input.pdf output.ps
Now what i dislike about you? Closed-mindedness! Math is useless, according to you. So is Unix and everything! Not that i would approve Unix to 100%, but, like, not trying to see usefullness in anything is simply bloody stupid.
IMAP: the messages are all stored on the server.
ssh: i mean accessing a command-line console of a remote Unix computer by an encrypted channel. I administer my university account from Windows using PuTTY this way. And scripts save a lot of work, else they wouldn't exist. ;)
BadSector: I was not saying Linux, nor did i mention geekness. Just that Universities usually force to use some Unix, and refusing to learn it is not exactly a time saver! I'm not really comfortable with many details of Linux, especially i'm not using it yet at home, yet i admit it is useful.
And one last thing. You have ghostscript, right? Go check a few things:
* ghostscript\bin is in your path
* ghostscript\lib is preferably also in your path
So look in that last directory. See pdf2ps.bat (for Windows 9x) and pdf2ps.cmd (for Windows NT) ? NOW WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SEARCHING FOR ON THE NET???
Now, i think you cannot imagine that, but ghostscript is also installed on every university Unix system!!! with all these scripts. They have been there for more than i know. So go back to your university comp, and type
pdf2ps input.pdf output.ps
Now what i dislike about you? Closed-mindedness! Math is useless, according to you. So is Unix and everything! Not that i would approve Unix to 100%, but, like, not trying to see usefullness in anything is simply bloody stupid.
IMAP: the messages are all stored on the server.
ssh: i mean accessing a command-line console of a remote Unix computer by an encrypted channel. I administer my university account from Windows using PuTTY this way. And scripts save a lot of work, else they wouldn't exist. ;)
BadSector: I was not saying Linux, nor did i mention geekness. Just that Universities usually force to use some Unix, and refusing to learn it is not exactly a time saver! I'm not really comfortable with many details of Linux, especially i'm not using it yet at home, yet i admit it is useful.
BadSector:
But you should know that I am not one of the coders who need all these tools. Nor the one who likes to learn a lot of diferrent progs. I just want a few simple command and to do my thing, so these things do not make Linux more appealing to me :)
Oh,. I am so stuborn that I'd prefer to code my own OS and own compiler/assembler oneday, own simple tools and stuff than trying to learn anyone else's :P
Afteralls, I don't have anything to loose..
Midiclub:
>"Now what i dislike about you? Closed-mindedness! Math is useless, according to you. So is Unix and everything! Not that i would approve Unix to 100%, but, like, not trying to see usefullness in anything is simply bloody stupid."
Not trying to see usefullness in anything is simply bloody stupid, it was me who believed that at first! One day, Antitec, because he was mad with the stupid lessons he couldn't pass in his school (he studies electronics, much less math than me at least), he started saying "Maths! They don't have any use!!!" and such stuff. And I was thinking like "Oh! How stupid?! Everything has it's own use, especially the subject I am studying.."
But you know that I say these things when I am angry or so, I never mean that anything is useless (and I don't remember where I said that, perhaps I said that I don't necessary need to learn all these things for democoding, but not that they are useless, not that they shouldn't exist!). How can you take me so seriously anyways? (Is anybody doing this here? =). Oh,. fuck!!! I guess I was having the same mood as Antitec had a long time ago with his exams. Fed up! :P
I only hate it when people tell me the opposite story: "Without maths/diploma, you can't do demos/be succesfull!!!"
Close-minded? Well,. I don't care, so I am closeminded and I am a stuborn too! I admit it and I am proud of it too!!!
I don't beleive that much in values and stable states of mind. Closeminded? I see the same closemindness in every of us. Because every of us, after a while, don't want to see harder pieces of the truth, but only the truth that fits into themselves. Nevertheless, if you can't understand/accept my close-mindness, how can you be open-mindned yourself. How can everybody who wants me to change? It's like rejecting what I am :P
And everytime any of you write something that for any reasons is spicy for me, I am tempted to challenge you, you know that already ;)
But you should know that I am not one of the coders who need all these tools. Nor the one who likes to learn a lot of diferrent progs. I just want a few simple command and to do my thing, so these things do not make Linux more appealing to me :)
Oh,. I am so stuborn that I'd prefer to code my own OS and own compiler/assembler oneday, own simple tools and stuff than trying to learn anyone else's :P
Afteralls, I don't have anything to loose..
Midiclub:
>"Now what i dislike about you? Closed-mindedness! Math is useless, according to you. So is Unix and everything! Not that i would approve Unix to 100%, but, like, not trying to see usefullness in anything is simply bloody stupid."
Not trying to see usefullness in anything is simply bloody stupid, it was me who believed that at first! One day, Antitec, because he was mad with the stupid lessons he couldn't pass in his school (he studies electronics, much less math than me at least), he started saying "Maths! They don't have any use!!!" and such stuff. And I was thinking like "Oh! How stupid?! Everything has it's own use, especially the subject I am studying.."
But you know that I say these things when I am angry or so, I never mean that anything is useless (and I don't remember where I said that, perhaps I said that I don't necessary need to learn all these things for democoding, but not that they are useless, not that they shouldn't exist!). How can you take me so seriously anyways? (Is anybody doing this here? =). Oh,. fuck!!! I guess I was having the same mood as Antitec had a long time ago with his exams. Fed up! :P
I only hate it when people tell me the opposite story: "Without maths/diploma, you can't do demos/be succesfull!!!"
Close-minded? Well,. I don't care, so I am closeminded and I am a stuborn too! I admit it and I am proud of it too!!!
I don't beleive that much in values and stable states of mind. Closeminded? I see the same closemindness in every of us. Because every of us, after a while, don't want to see harder pieces of the truth, but only the truth that fits into themselves. Nevertheless, if you can't understand/accept my close-mindness, how can you be open-mindned yourself. How can everybody who wants me to change? It's like rejecting what I am :P
And everytime any of you write something that for any reasons is spicy for me, I am tempted to challenge you, you know that already ;)
Now *this* posting of yours leads back to what i said "let Optimus boil down, he'll change". First you were against it. Now you are against the opposite. You remind me of my beloved lady, K., which has stayed a 20-year-old kid and has been deciding on her state of mind for at least 12 years, yet has not come up with anything useful yet. It must have gone even further in your case considering your age. ;)
Against what? I don't understand it..
You are not stubborn nor closeminded.
You are very clever and very lazy. And as most clever&lazy people you've found a whole theory to excuse/explain your lazyness.
And i doubt that you'll ever code a OS... i'm waiting for that 3DS loader since we created Nasty Bugs...
You are very clever and very lazy. And as most clever&lazy people you've found a whole theory to excuse/explain your lazyness.
And i doubt that you'll ever code a OS... i'm waiting for that 3DS loader since we created Nasty Bugs...
Optimus, explain me: how it is possible that -almost- everyone believes in you except you?