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the four guys have been found guilty of "assisting copyright infringement". Now Europe has no way of saying it is democratic and that its society is based on human rights. "Sales of large companies" vs. "human rights" ended in sales winning.

When I saw the list of companies that sued the site, I laughed: Sony, Universal, Blizzard... yeah, poor guys, thanks to Pirate Bay didn't make two more million dollars.
The feature film list includes Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, which probably the producers believed can make 1 more million which they could've added to hundreds of millions of dollars the merchandise has already made.

All of this is really sad.

They are criminals and should be locked up! Stealing is wrong! Piracy is cancer!

See, it's a bit like if you had a car and then I'd come and...

...post yet another f**king useless and utterly boring topic about it on pouet.

also, i think the pirate bay ppl should be sent to a gulag for some proper slave labour and torture.

I'm pretty sure that getting free music, music and games from the Internet is not included in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

louigi: don't worry it was a spectrial, TPB may have lost a judiciary battle (they're going to appeal anyway) but they're about to win the political battle ;)

coming from the same guy that made that recent linux thread, I'm not sure discussing this here is worth it

booooring´. and it was YOU guys who voted for the guys in charge of doing this anyway. So why so suprised?

aftu: I hope so. Does it mean that until all appeals are looked into, they will not go to jail?

noone is going to jail. relax.

*sigh*... You know Louigi your "THEY WANT MONEY FOR THEIR HARD WORK. EVIL EVIL PEOPLE!" attitude is getting kinda annoying.

louigi: in my opinion yes, to be confirmed... and apparently the admins are not living in sweden anymore, only peter sunde stays for the political fight.

now i don't support mass piracy, yet i do support TPB for their fight against freedom-destroying laws like ipred in sweden or hadopi in france.

the Swedes can still be proud of their free-spirit and independency that allowed the emergence of such a political counter-power.

in france it wouldn't have been possible, though the mobilization against hadopi is growing and that's only the very beginning :)

funny thing: whilst the other three admins of the pirate bay are swedish, the one who stays in sweden to fight for what you call "the freedom of swedes" is a finno-norwegian. oh the irony.

i mean: no they won't.

We'll eventually get back to ip over voice for piracy.

heh Decipher... i'm not expert at scandinavian history but didn't the vikings plant their 'seeds' a bit everywhere, and weren't invasions and unifications/splits enough common ? :p

Nike / TRSI^Craze must be the most famous scener ever! (http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=2906&page=1)

aftu: copying information is a tough question - it is really not easy to decide how to handle it correctly and the technology evolves faster than we can see how it changes our lives and the way we do things. Governments did the simplest thing any government does when cannot decide on something - criminalize it. so now millions of people in the world are "pirates", "criminals" and "thieves". But we'll see how it all goes. The public nailed down DRM. Eventually information copying will become legal, though who knows ho many years will pass.

The pirate bay guys are a bunch of juvenile fucking morons.

That said, the reason I think so is not because PIRACY=CANCER, but because of the way they act. I think that those who facilitate piracy on that scale (I.E. those who run trackers and such) have a unique opportunity to actually help change the way IP is distributed (e.g. the spotify way), but instead they're going the "fuck you" route.

Then again, I'm full of shit, and lets face it, they're only in it to get free shit anyway, not to actually run a revolution to better distribution channels and change the way we look at IP (even though they sure like to claim so).

IP? What do you mean by IP?

Intellectual Property, i.e. a product/creation covered by copyright law.

the impression I get (being a swede myself) is actually that they don't like how we try to restrict free speech and remove the possibility to be anonymous on the internet (for good and bad).

if they make money or not with what they do is none of my business and don't change the way I see on piracy. piracy is bad, but I'm actually one of these people that eventually buy all the stuff I like. I just don't like to buy it when it's new because a random hollywood film is not worth €19.95 when it comes out, I much rather wait and buy it when it's under the price it is on the movies, around €9.99...

of course not everybody buys much or anything at all, but would these guys really buy it if piracy was disabled in total? no... but they could easily talk into their parents that a spotify with free music legally for €9 a month for the family could be a good idea. if only we (in europe) had a good alternative for movies as well...

and if we're going to talk about games, warez has _always_ been an issue and is hardly worsen by the internet, I can't remember owning a single atari game back in the days, and the c64 games I had came with the computer. in fact, the game for my atari I've got with the computer I quickly wrote over with dungeon master from a friend... I don't have the solution but accounts for online gaming might be one.. strange platforms such as consoles is another (yeah I know about piracy on those as well but not as big of a problem as for pc)...

... price on cinema ...

Here's a better idea: Work your ass off, get rich and then you can buy everything you want. Problem solved.