Postmodern art question
category: general [glöplog]
I have selected 3 images for you as a little game. One is a computer randomly generated image, other is a Franz Kline paint and the third is one of my paints. Could you say which is every image?
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The top one is definitely an artist painting, so it's the Franz Kline. Regarding the others, my guess is that the middle one is yours and the bottom one is generated by a computer.
same guess
My guess is that the emperor has no clothes
Oh, watch those minimalist art lovers sweat now! :D
Personally I don't have any idea. One doesn't look any better or worse, or more meaningful or less meaningful than the other.
Personally I don't have any idea. One doesn't look any better or worse, or more meaningful or less meaningful than the other.
computer generated - franz kline - your stuff
No sweating here at least, the art is pretty easy to recognize here. It has shape, form and composition.
The fact that I can't be 100% sure what's texel's art and what's generated only speaks for the quality of both, which could be categorized as "random shit". I do think I like the bottom one a bit more since it's not a totally random doodle, but has patterns that probably come from an algorithm (diffusion?).
The fact that I can't be 100% sure what's texel's art and what's generated only speaks for the quality of both, which could be categorized as "random shit". I do think I like the bottom one a bit more since it's not a totally random doodle, but has patterns that probably come from an algorithm (diffusion?).
If you can spot a deeper meaning in ANY of the above images then it is ART for you (and only for you).
Art doesn't have recipes..
When an artist does something it's because he has the need to express himself.. for the others it could be just random shit as preacher said.
Only the ones who had a similar need will understand it and categorise it as art..
as for the images..
i whould hang the third one on my wall even if it's painted by a monkey.. :D
Art doesn't have recipes..
When an artist does something it's because he has the need to express himself.. for the others it could be just random shit as preacher said.
Only the ones who had a similar need will understand it and categorise it as art..
as for the images..
i whould hang the third one on my wall even if it's painted by a monkey.. :D
However, there are things like proportion, composition, projection, colour and technique that are "universally" pleasing. You know, the stuff you learn in art schools (where, surprisingly for some, a lot of these people who make "doodles" or "stuff anyone could make" have spent years). They are not of course absolutely necessary for a painter, just like music theory is not absolutely necessary for a musician, but they really help in getting the images in your head on the canvas/paper/sheet/whatever, and I don't think anyone can make good art without some sort of inner aptitude for such things.
Who the hell is Franz Kline?
(why do I even bother discussing this?)
Hm, I'm thinking about the label "postmodern". It was a while since I read about this stuff but isn't this scribbeled stuff more like modernist abstract expressionism from say the 40's/50's and on? When I hear postmodern I think of people acting like dogs in public places and wrapping up goverment buildings in paper and such. Something that has left the canvas...
A fancy art school background is no excuse for making crappy pictures.
computer-yours-kline
now for something difficult: Which is by Mondrian, which is computer generated?
now for something difficult: Which is by Mondrian, which is computer generated?
texel: you've asked this before or it's just a deja vu for me.
anes: deja vu
jxn: Left - Mondrian, right - random
jxn: Left - Mondrian, right - random
Both are computer generated. However, Mondrian did paint a work that resembles the work on the right, though it was more connected, the shapes had more structure and you could make out a tree shape in it. It's called "Composition 10 in black and white" and you can see it and the less abstract (for the abstraction challenged) paintings leading up to it here:
http://theartofmemory.blogspot.com/2007/07/abstraction-of-trees-mondrian.html
I think this is actually a prime example on how something very abstract that's not imitating reality can actually portray something that even Buttler understands.
http://theartofmemory.blogspot.com/2007/07/abstraction-of-trees-mondrian.html
I think this is actually a prime example on how something very abstract that's not imitating reality can actually portray something that even Buttler understands.
(btw, the whole thing is getting rather pointless)
Even if it's random paint thrown by a monkey, people will buy it.
I fail :D
That said, I don't like it. It's kind of dull and bland and lacks the geometric or mathematical appeal I find in some Mondrian paintings (like Composition 10).
That said, I don't like it. It's kind of dull and bland and lacks the geometric or mathematical appeal I find in some Mondrian paintings (like Composition 10).
My question continues unsolved... :P
Yes, a three-year-old chimp will paint more artsy pictures than a three-year-old human. Because the chimp is less talented. That's what postmodernism is about. Sucking as hard as you can.
YEA FUCK IT. BORYS VALLEJO 4 LIFE!
