pouët.net

I'd like a Pouet (same system) for graphics and music releases. I suppose musicians have Nectarine, but graphicians have nothing any more. I don't even know where to look for a comprehensive database of scene graphics.

I second, third and fourth what smash said. I always wish for a place where sceners (in my case coders) share ideas. Maybe its a vain hope though. Is it just my impression or do sceners not like to share? Anyway such a forum would be great, if its at all possible.

auld: Sceners just like to show off. Many ways of doing that. ;)

Anyway, less is more. Don't fuck up scene.org with millions of features.

Exactly. It's always a pro for party organizers to have a serious looking source for demoscene related stuff. No round edges, no semi-transparency, no idiots.

madenmann: I'm not saying that Scene.org should become Pouet 2.0, far from it, but I do think that a website can be serious looking and a professional without the "The-year-2001-45-degree-angle-graphic"-look that is so out of style it's sad. :)

The graphical design is really secondary - I want to focus on the features and the general layout. I think we have a lot of good ideas in this thread (SHOCKER!!111) already, but please keep the discussion going.

Scene.org could remain the "page for outsiders." There's a need for a clean site to point to when you describe what the demoscene is. Just what Madenmann and Willbe said.

Pouet already works as a "demo watchers portal" imho, not that it's a very welcoming page that can help increase the demoscene's audience, but that's something to be solved by the people behind this site.

Imho there's also a big need for a "producers' portal" - something with tutorials/source code for beginners, place to seek collaborators/groupmates, internal forums/file sharing/SVN repository for groups; without the unmoderated pouet fluff. But if you want to try new stuff, why not experiment with it under a new domain?

the only thing a programmer would need is a) creativity, b) a liking for demos and c) spare time.

there are more than enough resources out there to tell anyone everything they need. on any topic.

Niels: ..but collecting, categorizing and rating them (plus adding actual human interaction to them) can't really hurt, can it? :)

guess you're right about that. i mean it's sad to see people resort to virtual cancers like NeHe.

Niels: NeHe made me the man I am today. :(

kusma: see ;)

It makes me sad.

To the people asking for Pouet-but-indexed-by-individual-authors / Pouet-but-with-arbitrary-tagging / Pouet-but-for-music-and-graphics, please be aware that Demozoo is meant to be exactly that. As it happens, right now it kind of... isn't, but it will be. Soon.

Now, given that Demozoo has not exactly been bursting with development effort in the last couple of months (and right now, you only have my word that I do intend to fix this situation shortly) I can appreciate that people might want to do an end-run around me and beat me to it. Just... as long as people know that there might be some duplication of effort there, mmkay?

kusma: Don't be, your NeHe experience enabled you to cure cancer, remember?

gasman: There might be some duplication in effort, but since this is an official Scene.org rewamp, doing it ourselves is sort of the point. :) Besides, Demozoo and Scene.org has quite different approaches (and goals) I believe. The tagging-stuff is not really the most important part of Scene.org v2, as far as I'm concerned.

to clarify my last post on the hornet-like code dump/collection thing, here is how it looked like back than:

hornet example

maybe one could add some user comment thing to it or screenshots..

gasman: knowing how lazy the scene.org devs are im sure we'll end up leeching the authors info from demozoo whenever we finally bother implementing all these things :P i would like for you to be more involved with this whole scene.org and pouet.net revamp discussion and planning, you certainly had a lot of good ideas on what to do with the lot, and like you said, no use to duplicate effort when it's avoidable. :)

gloom: doesnt scene.org v2 include a pouet v2 too?

gargaj: it does, and ps - I believe this whole excercise is to make sure the scene.org devs are _not_ lazing off (including bringing in more people)

A better file-search system for productions like software rendered demos, windows-ports, hardware, if it has pixel/vertex shader or not, vidcaps, sourcecode, tools and etc in a well arranged and non messy manner. Another suggestion from me is the support for technical and aesthetic reviews of productions that finally members of the scene.org staff must accept before it gets available for the public.

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