Interesting movie on 9/11
category: general [glöplog]
keops how about you just stick your head up your ass and fart till you faint, or stay out of a thread that obviously has a subject that you dislike?
influence devise, what i really do not get is this: You know, and agree that the pool of power draws insane people like shit draws flys, and you still want to grant the pool of power MORE power. Perhaps i misunderstand something here? What you suggest is anything but logical.
Iblis: That was an answer for Rob, not for you, you just would not understand :)
Doom:
Point taken.
But I'm sure clever Larry fixed the annual rent to those $100 mill.
For that area this must be quite a good run as the real estate prices (and thus the rents) in Manhatten have gone through the roof in the past 6 years.
MeteoriK:
Am I entitled to ? Why you're focusing on the patsies ?
Follow the money and you'll find ... if not persons then motives.
Oh I'm feeling quite adult, at least I'm able to mind my words in a discussion!
I was not talking "conspiracy theories" here. I mentioned news in general and not only on those alternative portals, no, exactly that news droped by well known "mainstream" media.
Point taken.
But I'm sure clever Larry fixed the annual rent to those $100 mill.
For that area this must be quite a good run as the real estate prices (and thus the rents) in Manhatten have gone through the roof in the past 6 years.
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You still haven't come up with an idea about who was flying the planes if it wasn't muhammed atta and his henchmen
Am I entitled to ? Why you're focusing on the patsies ?
Follow the money and you'll find ... if not persons then motives.
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For fucks sake, grow up child.
Oh I'm feeling quite adult, at least I'm able to mind my words in a discussion!
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The theories didn't get buried in silence because it was inconvenient
I was not talking "conspiracy theories" here. I mentioned news in general and not only on those alternative portals, no, exactly that news droped by well known "mainstream" media.
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that statement is fucking funny Meteorik. THe "truthers" as they are mockingly called are by what must then be anti-truthers refered to as being in the same line as creationists. And here you are using the very tactics creationists are using. If you cant prove its not X it must be X
I'm not asking for proof, I'm asking for a hypothesis. That's how theories work. You make predictions, then set out to look for evidence of those predictions. The prediction here is that the planes were swapped. A similar theory is that the planes were actually holograms. Nobody would believe that, because it's silly. So, back to the planes being swapped - I'm interested. How might this be carried out, and what happened to the other planes and 600-odd passengers, one of which is pretty well documented through mobile phones, cockpit transmissions, and the in-flight recorder.
It is still an unfair demand because to the case it does not matter who flew the planes, it is entirely an unimportant question. The question is, who motivated whoever they were, que bono? None of the theories revolve around who flew the planes, it is but a sidenote used for sidetracking the main issue. Who benefits from this happening. It is obvious then that there are a great many institutions who benefitted greatly and none of them are located in the middle east.
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The question is, who motivated whoever they were, que bono?
The same people who motivated the 1993 attempt.
and your evidence is???
And that, again, would be the institutions that are not located in the middle east ;)
lol@dodge altso i find it funny how people forgot this one surfacing http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/ to be replaced by grany videos of a man were told is bin laden. I dont know that it is, but i think its funny he starts out denying any involvement.
speaking of Bush. Check out Kieth Olbermann blow a fuse on Bush here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs
Its good to see that there still is critical press in America. Now if it only would come to europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs
Its good to see that there still is critical press in America. Now if it only would come to europe
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and your evidence is???
This is the internet, right? Have you only read the exciting conspiracy paperbacks, or have you tried looking up and reading the huge mountains of mundane, boring, carefully gathered evidence from the investigation? I know that might sound like hard work, but it's a brief web search away.
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And that, again, would be the institutions that are not located in the middle east ;)
If it was an inside job, they would've had enough time and expertise to actually bring the building down, rather than just cause a big bang and lots of smoke. The bomb was nowhere near big enough to even get through the concrete lining to the central shafts, let alone take it out.
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speaking of Bush.
When did this conversation move onto Bush? That monkey couldn't blow up a balloon.
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This is the internet, right? Have you only read the exciting conspiracy paperbacks, or have you tried looking up and reading the huge mountains of mundane, boring, carefully gathered evidence from the investigation?
that including the comprehensive official repport yes. Dont try to ad homimen your way out of the crap youre saying. It seems that youre the one not doing his homework here because i asked for evidence and you offer me an anecdote (at best).
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that including the comprehensive official repport yes.
Bullshit.
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Dont try to ad homimen your way out of the crap youre saying. It seems that youre the one not doing his homework here because i asked for evidence and you offer me an anecdote (at best).
Well, you could start with the wikipedia page, which has an entire article dedicated to your conspiracy fantasies, and a discussion page where people can argue about NPOV in the article. Oh, go on, I'll give you one little tidbit of evidence to get you started:
The flight data recorder recovered from flight 93. And the phone calls. I think I've mentioned that one a few times, but you've repeatedly sidestepped it.
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Bullshit.
and you know this how?
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Well, you could start with the wikipedia page, which has an entire article dedicated to your conspiracy fantasies
It is on wikipedia so it must be true, is ackin to sayin its on the internet so it must be true.
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Ehh??? and the point in correlation to the debate you and i are having is ...what?The flight data recorder recovered from flight 93. And the phone calls. I think I've mentioned that one a few times, but you've repeatedly sidestepped it.
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When did this conversation move onto Bush? That monkey couldn't blow up a balloon.
He's an actor, whose role it is to make the administration look incompetent, while the real leaders, who are very competent but unfortunately also psychotic pull the strings from behind the scenes.
Bush grew up in the Northeast, his Texas accent is fake, his cowboy ranch is basically a Hollywood set, he is afraid of cows, and probably not very Christian or even heterosexual either. Everything about him is utterly fake.
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and you know this how?
Intelligent guess.
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It is on wikipedia so it must be true, is ackin to sayin its on the internet so it must be true.
I repeat: "and a discussion page where people can argue about NPOV in the article. "
I'd already pre-empted that reply. I could've gone for official government evidence, but that's "corrupt", I could go with news reports, but they're "corrupt". I guess if you rule out any investigation that you haven't carried out yourself, then the whole bloody thing is corrupt. Sod it - lets close down the entire legal system. You can't get a reliable testimony from anyone!
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Ehh??? and the point in correlation to the debate you and i are having is ...what?
You're saying that the US govt had something to do with the attacks, and a lot of rich and presumably jewish people benefited directly from allowing them to happen, and that nobody from the middle east was responsible. The flight recorder has the entire conversation between the Saudi Arabian (one Yemeni) hijackers, right up to the point where they recited the Islamic death rites while tipping the plane upside down.
Of course, the tapes could've been faked by the corrupt investigators, and all the corrupt people inside who witnessed the hijacking and described it in detail before they died.
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Intelligent guess
it is a guess all right.
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Sod it - lets close down the entire legal system. You can't get a reliable testimony from anyone!
You are being very emotional about this, and having a debate page validate the information how excactly?
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}presumably jewish people..
if have said that, where did i say that? you are jumping conclutions and react in manners that are obviously spinal reactions.
and you still dont get it do you, it is unimportant who flew the planes. 100% unimportant, because you can hire people from all over the world. no problem. Arab speaking people are for sale as much as the next joe, and the fact that they are arab is evidence that it was an arabic operation in the same way that witnessing a christmas celebration is evidence of santa claus.
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Arab speaking people are for sale as much as the next joe
Ok, lets run with that theory - they were hired by the U.S. Government. Elaborate.
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if have said that, where did i say that? you are jumping conclutions and react in manners that are obviously spinal reactions.
That was Cruzer. I didn't see you disagreeing with him though.
Planes could be remote controlled 50 years ago. They can hit an orange with a cruise missile 200 km away, why shouldn't they be able to hit a building with an airplane?
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Ok, lets run with that theory - they were hired by the U.S. Government. Elaborate.
www.internets.com, you said you did your homework so assume that you DID your homework.
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Planes could be remote controlled 50 years ago. They can hit an orange with a cruise missile 200 km away, why shouldn't they be able to hit a building with an airplane?
They could. The hard part is getting 5 robots that look exactly like people to run around a plane cabin with stanley knives, on flight 93, slitting people's throats and reciting the Sunna.