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It's a private army without democratic accountability. The congress can't even get info about how many Blackwater soldiers that are stationed in Iraq, or how many have been killed. True corporatism, aka fascism.

sounds awesome...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#Corporatism_and_Fascism

Also, please note the awesomeness of their logo:

I have a tendency to believe any crazy conspiracy theory, no matter how vague the evidence is... However, i think most people agree that building 7 was pulled down with controlled demolition. And if it was, can anyone claim that during those few hours of fucking chaos, they had the time to plant the explosives into the building and take it down safely? And if the explosives were there before the planes crashed... well..

But don't take my word for it, i'm a nutter anyway, see for yourself :)

If you can find it, watch the BBC's "Conspiracy Files: 9/11", which spends about an hour going through loosechange and reducing its claims to fantasy and lack of research.

All but one of the theories (that the CIA didn't talk to the FBI quick enough due to red tape) are pretty much debunked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/6160775.stm

Just on thought about WTC 7 (no, I don't really care HOW "they" got it down) destruction:

Aside from Rudy's command center, the FBI and CIA offices in it, also the SEC (the Securities & Exchange Commission) had its HQ in that building.
That's the - say "oversight comity" that looks for insider trade and every kind of fraud or illegal actions on the stock markets in the U.S.
So there are a lot of rich and powerful people & politicians that definitely gained a lot from the destruction of investigation and prosecution files.

BTW as I head the words like "W. Bush wont become president next time ... so what's the rush"
Presidents in the U.S. don't have any real [financial] power over this country since 1913. So it doesn't matter who's waving the victory sign and takes the oath. Not even the political party matters as long as the FED is the most powerful (and non governmental to be clear) institution in that country. Just like (i guess...Meyer Anselm -) Rothschild once said:
"Give me the power over a country's money and I don't care about it's government"

on thought -> one thought
I head -> I heard

...yes preview button, I know

Debunking of BBC's propaganda

and for my fellow german Landsleute: infokrieg.tv

haha, i'm neocon and i control your internets!

If you were a "neocon" you wouldn't give a dime for ze int0rnetz ;)

d0dge, TURN ON YOUR AMIGA AND WEAR TINFOIL HAT BECAUSE SOON YOU WILL OBEY JEWS!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111

jews can do anything, they are actually space lizards!

sorry, but i noticed several things about conspiracy theorists

a) they're not expert of field
b) they have too much time (student, jobless or something)
c) they're racists (they believe that neocon = rich jews)
d) they think official news sucks, but they totally believe all alternative media
e) they take little fact, twist it so much it becomes fucked.
f) they never ever tell why and how 3000 person would be silent about 9/11 (this count all people who would be part of conspiracy if it would happened)

ok?

BBC propaganda? That movie is pure speculation. Its claim "they spent too much time arguing against the conspiracy theories and not proving the official theory to be right". So what? the conspiracy theories are insane. Besides, this is by David Shayler, who is completely insane:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=475616&in_page_id=1770

Just for uns3en:

Dort baim Brinnele schtait a Jingele,
halt a Blimele in spielt sech schain.
Farbai is gekimmen a schain Maidele
mit a Krigele ganz allain.
Er gait zi in sugt ihr: "Git Morgen!
Far Bengschaft bin ijech schoin dill!
Derfar well ich dir sehn zi basorgen:
Dus Krigele soll sain fill!"
Fin dem Jingel a Mann mit Juren,
fin dem Maidele a Madam
in fin dem Krigele a schain Schtibele
Fin dem Blimel a Liebe flammt.
Er gait zi in sugt ihr: "Git Morgen!
Far Bengschaft bin ijech schoin dill!
Derfar well ich dir sehn zi basorgen:
Dus Schtibele soll sain fill!"

you should 1st distinguish between judaism and zionism and 2nd not bring in religion into this (or other) discussions ;)

I'm at work BTW ...

Answers to Unseen:

a) Experts of what? How about these crazy nutjobs. Aren't they experts of something? Or how about these lunatics?

b) I don't even have time to code demos anymore :-(

c) No, I don't believe that. You are racist since you judge all truthers as one group with the same beliefs.

d) No, I'm critical about every news source. They have to document what they say and not just say "believe us, we're the authorities" which is what the mainstream media mostly does.

e) If that was the case I guess it should be easy to debunk the conspiracy theories without resorting to straw man tactics.

f) Where did you get that number? Out of your ass? Let's try to qualify it a bit. If it takes one man-hour to rig a floor with explosives, and the towers needed to have every 3rd floor rigged, then it would take 73 man-hours to set up both Twin Towers, or 10 people in 8 hours, including breaks.

when did this so called "setting bombs into wtc building" happend? did it happend during blackout? there wasn't even any blackout in towers, its just invention of some nutjob. and conspiracy theorist take it all granted. i think if there was somekind of bomb set up anywhere in claimed building, some people would have seen it. because it didnt happend during blackout, because there wasnt any blackout.

btw. i'd rather support zionists than crazy selfsuicide bombers.
maybe not all 9/11 conspiracy theorist aren't racists, but lets look cockoos like david icke and alex jones, your main source of information. alex jones = gun carrying racist hick, david icke = ex football goal, gone crazy. woah, two most respectable persons alive and surely expert of any field. just like those guys who deny holocaust and moonlanding. flat-earth society and jfk murder, it's all same shit, different assholes :)

9/11 is basically ghost story for big boys. you guys just cause more confusion in middle east and cause more terrorism to happend because arab media tends to believe your shit. this is the fact. spread false information and shit and cause more hatred against jews and america goverment.

Well... about the blackout. I've seen many of these conspiracy documentaries, and there's at least one that claims there WAS a blackout (electricity, surveillance etc) for one whole night. And the security company that requested the blackout (to do some network cable thing or something) was somehow tied to a cousin of GWB or something.

Sorry, don't remember the facts, but there was a blackout atleast according to the documentary. And i don't see any good reason for them to pull "facts" out of their asses.

putting bombs into wtc according cruzer: 73 man-hours to set up both Twin Towers, or 10 people in 8 hours, including breaks.

8 hours lets take this. wtc building was open 24 hours? wouldn't that blackout caused some major problems to some companies working there, servers etc. there should be some documents about what happened. but there isn't any at least what i know.

since when is Alex Jones a racist?
This guy is what a lot of US citizens call themself constitutionalist and a so called adventist - that's a christian branch of 2nd coming believers.
That man not even dares to say the word "damn" in public neither "nigger", even if he cites other individuals.

Unseen,
If you're into movies, just take an evening and f.e. watch the latest
masterpiece directed by Robert De Niro "The Good Shepherd".
It took a lot of content from admitted and declassified CIA documents of
the last decades. Oh and if that doesn't bother you, it has a top cast of actors ;)
So this False Flag thing is not breaking news at all.
Why _must_ the WTC incident then be an islam-jihad- motivated attack??

well why not? imo biggest conspiracy is conspiracy against usa what terrorists did. bunch of guys from different backgrounds planning hateful attack against united states. anyway. ill stop now, coz i was too angry against, lets talk about this at irc, arguing at internets sucks ;)

I've always said right from the start that those attacks were way too perfect. And another question is "how come the Pentagon never provided any single pictures of the crash?". This is one of the most protected building in the world. And year, some conspiracy arguments are convincing and it's really confusing. (again, so where the fuck are the passengers?! Put in a rocket and thrown in outer space??)

Second, it was obvious in the first dozen of minutes of broadcast images after UA93 crash that usual debris of a jetliner were hardly found on crash site. Only small pieces of things. When a helicopter flies over such a thing, they are able to focus on the core of the crash namely the fuselage or something. But we have nothing.

So, I think they did shot it. Sadly, it has to be done in these circumstances.

Still, all these suspected hidden things feed the conspiracy theory and that's why I think (my opinion) we gonna get some terrifying disclosure in the next 50 or 100 years when all of this will be past and History.