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Ugh! Ugh!!!
For some reason I hate to hear the word hackers (it's too trendy but misconcepted) and put it in quotes like in "hackers". But it's just a word and the reason of this thread is another word.

Doesn't it break your nerves the misconception fo the word cracker?

We know real crackers are those grandfathers of the demoscene who did the cracktros and stuff. From 80s.

But later maybe, because the hacking scene was about "hacking" and hacking wasn't ever meaning to do clever coding and stuff but what we all know when we hear the word today,. so someone (who could still be the fake "hacker" himself) wanted to differentiate the "good" haxors from the "bad" haxors (but all were still the break network security cool trendy haxxors and not something irrelevant, so the same thing for me), they invented the word cracker for the malicious hacker. LAME!!!

There was a good article on old meaning of hacking versus trendy "hacking" by Richard Stallman, but still in order to do deferentiate from the misconception, he also thought to use the term "cracker" to describe those false "hackers".

But crackers are the pirate people who also do the cracktros as we know!

Do I care about the word or the misconception? Both maybe. As for the word, ok even demos are the demos we know and the commercial game demos. So?

p.s. I don't know why I am getting so maniac on this issue. Even from 1998. I remember posting a long shit on c.s.i.p.d. back then and getting major stfu and stuff but some people could understand and someone told me hakuna matata and I smiled :)

p.p.s. Ok, maybe the word "hacker" has lost it's meaning and someone who tells me I am leet haxxor and stuff is probably a lamer and we have nothing to do with this meaning word anymore. We are sceners and retrocoders and .. ok.

p.p.p.s. But why? The funny thing is that I discussed this with some and some beleive that "our cracktro crackers" == "trendy haxxors on the net" because they are both malicious and piracy is cancer. Some mixed the bag..

..but who cares? Why do I care? I don't know.

^^ hehe :D

You see? It's so trendy that it goes commercial :)

Oh,. can't forget what a laugh I had with my friends finding some netcafe "hackers" around my place..

hackers, crackers, demosceners, they both share the same technical curiosity and lust for leetness... it's a candid belief but a true one :P

We had a related discussion two months ago in escena.org - about the misconception between hacking and cracking. I'm personally not proud of our cracking past I must say. I also hate to be called hacker (between quotes or not), I'm just a scener.

Call me cracker and I will call you nigger!


wikipedia:

"Cracker", sometimes "white cracker", is a usually pejorative term for a white person, mainly used in the Southern United States, but in recent decades it has entered common usage throughout North America.
[edit] Usage

Usage of the term "cracker" generally differs from "hick" and "hillbilly" because crackers reject or resist assimilation into the dominant culture, while hicks and hillbillies theoretically are isolated from the dominant culture. In this way, cracker culture is similar to redneck culture.

"Cracker" has also been used as a proud or jocular self-description. With the huge influx of new residents from the North, "cracker" is now used informally by some white residents of Florida and Georgia ("Florida cracker" or "Georgia cracker") to indicate that their family has lived there for many generations. However, the term "white cracker" is not always used self-referentially and remains a racist term to many in the region.[1]

GO FUCKING WRITE OF YOUR FUCKING BLOG.

werd to ma crakkaz.

In the early days, people had to be both hacker and cracker in one person, just due to the fact, that there were no ready-made tools to be used. And every successful scene group in the 80's had to have it's own department for network purposes, just to get rid of the infrastructure problems. So perhaps, it's not that far away from each other from this point of view. Historically, there always have been people, who did not want to be associated with the other half of the scene, for whatever reasons, but I think, it is basically two sides of one story.