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Is that the guy who writes about timbalands use of exotic and obscure samples, how skilled of a musician he is being able to find these samples and making music out of them, and finally how he has a "good ear for pop" all the time? If so, I'm not surprised...

I'd point out to him that this is a straight rip, and if it was removed from block party, there'd just be a kick and a snare drum, but I don't have an SA account either.

linde: Yep, that's the one.

neon: Pretty good, but you kinda didn't get to the point, that the person who takes the credit also gets the blame. :) At the end of the day, if you sign off on something bad, your head will roll also. It doesn't matter if it was some simple studio peasant doing the bad thing -- you are still responsible.

isn't there some audio editing technique which if you add one sample to another, it cancels the identical frquencies out and you're left with the remaining frequencies? maybe someone could do that with the ringtone..

chameleon, you really think it's needed? :D

gloom:
Well, I wrote my SA post before I saw your post here...

chavez: considering the amount of retarded posts on forums everywhere, it would be a godsent.

gloom: I urge you to throw a credit card on your desk and register an account. I already had a request to vent somebody else's opinion against these wonderful samples of ineptitude, but trust me that it's worth the money. Apart from Okkie, Wayfinder's there too, so my presence is pretty much overshadowed by nice people ;)

In regards to the guy saying it was just a mistake, or whatever. Well, it happened twice, not just once. (Ring tone and Nelly Furtado album.)

chameleon: Yeah, it's a pretty simple phase-procedure actually. You'll get the best results if you have a vanilla copy of what you want to _remove_ from a complete mix. For example if you have the karaoke-version of a tune and the tune with the vocals, you can (in some cases) end up with a pretty decent vocal-only track. However in most cases you get some "shadowing" (phase-echoing). You also would need a pretty good copy of the original recording to make this work (MP3-files are usually to wolly, FLAC or pure WAV is much better)

I guess one could apply this technique to remove the GRG-sounds from the ringtone; if you end up with nothing but the beats, it could help prove that it is in fact the GRG-tunes used.. but with just that crappy "Preview"-MP3 to work with, the results would be poo, at best. :)

the tongue-in-cheek argument against the GRG phasetrick would be the goddamn mantra C64 zealots use every time:

EVERY SID IS UNIQUE NO WAY THEY WOULD MATCH UP RAAARRRR 6581 RAAAAARRR...

(ahem)

(also, hi there neon, mind if I add you to the buddy list? :))

shifter:
go ahead. i'm no sa-goon though. i signed up in 2003 but i don't think i've posted anything until today :)

neon: The SA-forums is your gym membership, is that what you're telling us? :)

i laughed out. hard.

gloom: hahahaha

Side-line.com news:

http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=20102_0_2_0_C

gloom : about SA forum is funny.. I guess if the person who posted that got sacked from their job, they'd blame the power company for a powercut and also the alarm clock makers... "pass the buck" mentality some people have.

they alas are everywhere.

It's weird for me in the sense of it wasn't for the c64 demo scene, I'd not have met studio engineers/producers and gone on to produce music myself.

I did some googling, and here is a rather intersting thread:
http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=103655
(Excuse if this is old news after all...)

Note how certain people actually understand what copyright is, and what producer's responsibilities are. Refreshing. Also, spot how one of the posters appears to pinpoint the ringtune (2005 incident) himself.

Ok, there are the usual village idiots, too, but they're put down pretty fast.

Post #35 by MarcusColeman is especially heart warming, aswell as levelheadness of zboy2854. Maybe not everything is lost.

Piru: That'd one of the more reasonable threads so far, much thanks to zboy for not giving up the argument. :)

Oh, and it contained a signature that not only relevant to this situation (at least the aftermath :) but also really funny:

..and here's another great quote (from a different forum):



Apart from the mega-mixedcase-leetness, it's pretty sound. :)

to be honest, i was wating for something like this tho happen.

apart from all the controversity i think that the crossmix of the Tempest-tune and the timbaland one sounds actually pretty cool.

another thing to ponder is: with this action do we give in to their way of thinking on copyright-issiues?

never the less,
something seems to be obviously out of balance here. in germany people get visits by the police with a search-warrant for downloading a tool worth 30 eur, while timbaland can make hundreds of thousands of usd by clearly rippeng? i do think that this is wrong.

on the other hand, let's not forget that this seems to be one of the first major completely provable incidents where the industry can be accused of playing on a tilted table. this could turn into one of the first major agrument contra all the drm/cpoyright shit wich is not theorethical and canl not be easly dismanteld in court by corporate lawyers.

my tupence

some short round-up of the story can be found here now: http://www.symlink.ch/article.pl?sid=07/01/16/1828239 .. let's see whether this will be taken up into the Swiss press :)

hahahaha

http://iiichan.net/boards/music/src/atmx-rlty2k.mp3

Oh what the fuck :)

my exact same reaction :D

The mp3 aegis posted is from the Mekka & Symposium 2000 mp3 compo...

Dj Atomix & MasterK vs. Purple Motion - The Mekka Jam (Reality 2K)

placed 6th