Italian sceners???
category: residue [glöplog]
now eating my pizza core... [13%]
now eating my pizza core... [13%]
I can't exactly say that i *like* spinning kids' prods, but i have to admit that they have a ton of coding talent. And some artistic talent. Just too litle taste and common sense. And who needs common sense anyway?
Japotek story demos are soooo funny to me, because they are looking ugly or remind me stupid action games =)
Dixan is the coolest Italian guy around :). I met him at TUM and he was the nicest guy and we had a nice chat! Ok,. I haven't met any other Italian sceners yet, but stop that because he rulez anyways =)))
I am wondering now what the greek demoscene is doing. Perhaps we will see some new greek demos at ReAct or even at the next Assembly. But it's so weird to only wait for the big events in order to see some activity, but at least I am having some times fun with the stupid discussions at the greek mailnglist or irc channel during the inactive days :)
Dixan is the coolest Italian guy around :). I met him at TUM and he was the nicest guy and we had a nice chat! Ok,. I haven't met any other Italian sceners yet, but stop that because he rulez anyways =)))
I am wondering now what the greek demoscene is doing. Perhaps we will see some new greek demos at ReAct or even at the next Assembly. But it's so weird to only wait for the big events in order to see some activity, but at least I am having some times fun with the stupid discussions at the greek mailnglist or irc channel during the inactive days :)
sometimes i like to relaxe with the italian version of the sailor moon theme
\o/
well. thanks :D
[nagz ;*?]
well. thanks :D
[nagz ;*?]
Sometimes I like to relaxe with the italian version of "Debby does Dallas"
i wish i could relax with Aria Giovanni, the italian pride!!! :P
The real italian pride is Rocco Siffredi, but I wouldn't relax with him (nor would you, I guess).
[url]http://www.ariagiovanni.com/[url] <--- ARIAGIOVANNI
fuck me.. I CANT USE BB CODE FUCK YOU
BUT aria giovanni only has italian origins... if you want a "vera italian porca" you should take a look at selen.
deathstar was an italian group wasn't it ?
nytrik: yeah, right... "was". Almost 7 years are passed since their big hit "Claudia", so they are quite out of the demobiz at the moment.
For all: I have been thinking about this lack of italian sceners for quite a long while now, and I came up with a simple conclusion: italian people can't do two things at the same time.
- In the high school or before then, they just can't do shit and play frag-o-rama games all day long.
- In the university times, most of the demoscene wannabe makers just can't do demos because they have exams to prepare or linux boxes to finetune.
-When they graduate, they can't make demos because they have to search for a job or work overtime for a poorly paid position.
- When they have a full time job, it seems to suck up all the demomaking time.
In addiction to this, italian girlfriends are always bitching about them passing too much time boozing or coding shiny blobs instead of driving them to the nearest shopping mall.
Oh lordy, trouble so hard...
For all: I have been thinking about this lack of italian sceners for quite a long while now, and I came up with a simple conclusion: italian people can't do two things at the same time.
- In the high school or before then, they just can't do shit and play frag-o-rama games all day long.
- In the university times, most of the demoscene wannabe makers just can't do demos because they have exams to prepare or linux boxes to finetune.
-When they graduate, they can't make demos because they have to search for a job or work overtime for a poorly paid position.
- When they have a full time job, it seems to suck up all the demomaking time.
In addiction to this, italian girlfriends are always bitching about them passing too much time boozing or coding shiny blobs instead of driving them to the nearest shopping mall.
Oh lordy, trouble so hard...
You may find some of these facts in other countries too, but I am not sure about it..
Anyways, the problems concerning the small scene in Greece must be:
* At high school, the exams to pass to the university are very hard. I also see a lot of parents oppresing their children to study and only study.
* However, after passing to the university, most greek students are very lazy at studying for 1-2 years before they decide to start working for it, perhaps because of the oppresion (Some say: "I was studying all my childhood, why do the same again?!") and hard studies before at school. If they are not working hard for their university, they are just enjoying life, going out with friends, seeking for a girlfriend or anything that they haven't done at such extend in their childhood. I think, at least some other greek sceners can correct me if they think elsewhere.
* It's strange how I choosed the other direction, spending most of my time on learning coding, not that there was no time left to go out, but there must be also the fact that it happened that I learned the demoscene at that time, probably also because I first logged into the internet when I joined the university. Perhaps it was because it wasn't easy to be informed about the demoscene before. There existed BBS in Greece too, but I was either to small or I didn't had any geek friend knowing about BBS or demos. The funniest thing I just remember, is the fact that once my big brother connected to some BBS with a modem (a friend told him), he downloaded some warez, but never let us have even a slight look at that (he closed the door in his room). Arghh!!! I really wanted to see how it is to connect to the external world, perhaps I would have noticed some demos too there..
* A friend of mine thinks that perhaps the greeks started with coding such advanced things like gfx algorithms after 18, because their childhood was very oppresed by the school, there was not even some time for enjoying life, how about sticking in a PC? The opportunity is very rare. He says that many sceners in Finland or Germany or every country that has a scene, started very early in the scene, however I know some greek sceners who started at 14-15. I still don't know why Greece has a smaller demoscene than Finland, when the population is bigger. Perhaps it's also that computer were not so popular here at older times or there was no big connection to scenewise countries..
* Some say that greeks are lazy :)
I am wondering what is the opinion of greek sceners.
Anyways, the problems concerning the small scene in Greece must be:
* At high school, the exams to pass to the university are very hard. I also see a lot of parents oppresing their children to study and only study.
* However, after passing to the university, most greek students are very lazy at studying for 1-2 years before they decide to start working for it, perhaps because of the oppresion (Some say: "I was studying all my childhood, why do the same again?!") and hard studies before at school. If they are not working hard for their university, they are just enjoying life, going out with friends, seeking for a girlfriend or anything that they haven't done at such extend in their childhood. I think, at least some other greek sceners can correct me if they think elsewhere.
* It's strange how I choosed the other direction, spending most of my time on learning coding, not that there was no time left to go out, but there must be also the fact that it happened that I learned the demoscene at that time, probably also because I first logged into the internet when I joined the university. Perhaps it was because it wasn't easy to be informed about the demoscene before. There existed BBS in Greece too, but I was either to small or I didn't had any geek friend knowing about BBS or demos. The funniest thing I just remember, is the fact that once my big brother connected to some BBS with a modem (a friend told him), he downloaded some warez, but never let us have even a slight look at that (he closed the door in his room). Arghh!!! I really wanted to see how it is to connect to the external world, perhaps I would have noticed some demos too there..
* A friend of mine thinks that perhaps the greeks started with coding such advanced things like gfx algorithms after 18, because their childhood was very oppresed by the school, there was not even some time for enjoying life, how about sticking in a PC? The opportunity is very rare. He says that many sceners in Finland or Germany or every country that has a scene, started very early in the scene, however I know some greek sceners who started at 14-15. I still don't know why Greece has a smaller demoscene than Finland, when the population is bigger. Perhaps it's also that computer were not so popular here at older times or there was no big connection to scenewise countries..
* Some say that greeks are lazy :)
I am wondering what is the opinion of greek sceners.
just a side note, that deathstar wasn't even the real one ;)
the first and real deathstar was of course the finnish-based amiga group formed in 1988, remembered most notably because of the coding talents of drucer & dr. dma.
the first and real deathstar was of course the finnish-based amiga group formed in 1988, remembered most notably because of the coding talents of drucer & dr. dma.
optimus: you're off topic :)
it's funny to see how dixan and optimus write approximately the same things, but optimus is about twice as verbose and mixes in his personal experience.
Dixian : from what you said : thanks god i m not italian :)
hello i went back yesterday from madrid reading your post i think that italian scene sucks and i'm only a poor italian sigh!
daeimos: la scena demo italiana suxa, si sa, e tu sei un troll. Grazie a questa tua qualifica sei il benvenuto, te l'ho già detto. Quindi piantala di lamentarti, cambia nazionalità, se vuoi, e comincia a releasare qualcosa.
Pizza quattro stagioni whatsa matta you?
yes, yes, hot dog, hot dog, yes sir, no sir, maybe, okay.
soolta: aspetta la mia release allora...
marco carola is italian pride!!
