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Otinanism by Otinanum [web]
screenshot added by Optimonk on 2009-01-11 04:57:50
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release date : january 2009
  • rulez 11
  • is ok 16
  • sucks 27
popularity : 60%
  • sucks -0.30
alltime top: #42945
added on the 2009-01-11 04:57:50 by Optimonk Optimonk

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added on the 2009-01-11 04:58:12 by Optimonk Optimonk
Had trouble getting this to run properly... it started up and changed the resolution of my screen, but never started rendering more than a very small portion of the screen with the rest being whatever was on my desktop before it started.
added on the 2009-01-11 06:09:15 by deathyepl deathyepl
added on the 2009-01-11 08:06:32 by Speed Speed
aber HALLO!
here´s your thumb ;)
rulez added on the 2009-01-11 08:36:10 by ɧ4ɾɗվ./Lemon. ɧ4ɾɗվ./Lemon.
added on the 2009-01-11 10:20:24 by panic panic
aber HALLO!
here´s your thumb ;)
sucks added on the 2009-01-11 12:53:43 by relias abardon relias abardon
I think one BITS is more than enough already.
added on the 2009-01-11 12:58:22 by tomaes tomaes
Ok, new version uploaded, you always need a windowed mode too but I have also changed with the latest sdl.dll, it might work on fullscreen too now or maybe not.
added on the 2009-01-11 13:11:19 by Optimonk Optimonk
It's the first demo I do everything myself, even I tracked the music. We tried once in Texel's home to make a demo in 1 hour in the similar way, but never released it. I promise the next Otinanum will be better and kick ass :)
added on the 2009-01-11 13:12:27 by Optimonk Optimonk
No, it's not the first demo I do everything myself. But I never wrote a music my one. Lulz
added on the 2009-01-11 13:12:55 by Optimonk Optimonk
optimus the bits-antagonist! \o/
hope for a better prods!!
rulez added on the 2009-01-11 13:18:04 by gentleman gentleman
..this is telepathy of course
I think you really enjoyed doing the tune :P
rulez added on the 2009-01-11 13:35:41 by Buckethead Buckethead
Yes, the music is good... You have a hidden talent, Optimus! And the action on screen is nice as well.
rulez added on the 2009-01-11 13:44:15 by Adok Adok
I didn't get it.
sucks added on the 2009-01-11 14:14:43 by stan_1901 stan_1901
this prod scares the everloving crap out of me.
sucks added on the 2009-01-11 14:19:04 by Gargaj Gargaj
added on the 2009-01-11 14:26:26 by red red
there's a difference between surrrealism and ugly, thanks for pointing that out once again!
sucks added on the 2009-01-11 14:31:32 by havamal havamal
A so bad that is good kind of demo :P
rulez added on the 2009-01-11 15:20:23 by xernobyl xernobyl
This sure isn't surrealistic (or I have missed out on something).
sucks added on the 2009-01-11 15:22:57 by datsua datsua
Otinanism translates to whateverism. Which is what this prod is..
Piggy for no particular reason other than that I don't want to thumb it down...
added on the 2009-01-11 15:33:25 by ChrisTOS ChrisTOS
it would be interesting to see something with that filter you use to make the screenshot. Other than that, not much to say.
added on the 2009-01-11 15:34:23 by Navis Navis
sucks added on the 2009-01-11 15:52:54 by noby noby
This demo has a unique style. That's something I can say about hardly any other demo.

Nevertheless, it's butt-ugly and sounds like crap.

Needless to say that it rules.
rulez added on the 2009-01-11 17:08:24 by chock chock
Sorry, nope.
Thumb down + Thumb up for first prod = Piggy
added on the 2009-01-11 17:14:47 by Joghurt Joghurt
Nobody has written anything about me.txt yet!
added on the 2009-01-11 17:38:39 by Adok Adok
sucks added on the 2009-01-11 20:30:10 by gloom gloom
chock: Ed Gein had a unique style.
added on the 2009-01-11 20:34:42 by Gargaj Gargaj
added on the 2009-01-11 22:21:46 by martin martin
rulez added on the 2009-01-12 00:58:11 by Kauto Kauto
Thumb down + Thumb up for first prod + Evil soul = Thumb down
sucks added on the 2009-01-12 01:02:54 by Skate Skate
sucks added on the 2009-01-12 13:53:33 by __ __
added on the 2009-01-12 13:55:54 by chromag chromag
this is no upvote
sucks added on the 2009-01-12 18:36:09 by 4kum4 4kum4
rulez added on the 2009-01-12 22:07:48 by Shockwave Shockwave
sucks added on the 2009-01-13 00:03:44 by Alpha C Alpha C
Carlos Castaneda rules.
rulez added on the 2009-01-13 18:58:33 by visy visy
added on the 2009-01-13 22:44:49 by Aeko Aeko
opti? maybe otinanism has to be renamed to aunanism :P lol
rulez added on the 2009-01-14 09:39:24 by voxy voxy
this shit?
sucks added on the 2009-01-14 19:00:23 by BiTL BiTL
demoglop related
sucks added on the 2009-01-15 02:45:17 by 24 24
@voxfreax: Hmm,. that gives me a new idea for the next otinanum demo :)
added on the 2009-01-15 06:17:03 by Optimonk Optimonk
sucks added on the 2009-01-17 00:39:59 by Herpes Herpes
a new group is born

open ruggetje enzo
added on the 2009-01-17 05:25:24 by superplek superplek
whatever it is you tried to do, it didnt turn out well
sucks added on the 2009-01-17 10:53:19 by hollowman hollowman
optimus: just get a fucking job, this is pathetic
sucks added on the 2009-01-17 12:43:36 by havoc havoc
sucks added on the 2009-01-17 21:10:35 by T$ T$
at least it's not BITS... yet.
added on the 2009-01-30 16:28:09 by unic0rn unic0rn

sucks added on the 2009-02-04 17:57:20 by aquaman aquaman
sucks added on the 2009-02-04 18:24:06 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
err... that was such a waste of time.
added on the 2009-02-04 18:26:33 by decipher decipher
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sucks added on the 2009-02-04 18:29:36 by okkie okkie
Hello. I just observed the real reason why I suck at democoding. Or why I do not exactly suck at coding itself but in productivity, in results, in creating a good solid demo and in time. It is something I have noticed several times in the past but bypassed it for some reasons, never gave it enough attention. But now I had greater awareness of it and I was shocked.

I simply sit down to code something and it takes me 4+ times more to finish it than what it should originally take. Something that would take 1-2 hours and I could simply do more stuff or even do different real life stuff in between, it takes me a whole evening or day. Suddenly I realize how awfully time passes. I sit there thinking of the next line of code to write and I may loose focus or daydream or play with something on my fingers for several minutes. And then I wake up and realize it and try to focus but my mind goes elsewhere.

To not misunderstand me, I don't want necessarily with this thread to focus on disorders (although it would be interesting), in the past I never thought I would fit the profile of an ADD person as I know it (especially not ADHD, I am the silent guy) but now I have noticed that something really bad is playing and I'd be just wondering whether there are some techniques to keep focused on the democoding and not snap out of it or if someone else experiences something similar and how he gets along with it.

However, a possibility is that I am simply absent minded in parts of coding where I don't have the best interest. I've been noticing at which coding sessions I am loosing it and at which I am really focused and produce a lot (this happens once in ten times). I may be coding a new effect (I tried the freedir tunnel we were discussing) but at some trivial parts with not much interest or not something new yet a bit tricky to think and needs brain energy I may be absent minded and taking 3 hours for trivial stuff of half an hour and not realizing it. The rare cases where I am really feeling productive are when I am experimenting with some crazy idea (usually on optimization) I just thought and really want to try. But when I just have to connect parts of demos or code trivial stuff I spent a lot of time. Another side I perform ok is when I have to copy-paste code (trivial but I don't have to put mind in it, just automation), ok lame. And also usually I keep daydreaming about a demo easilly but it's hard for me to sit down and work on it. When I daydream my mind works, when I sit down to code I flat out.

Also, there is always the same feeling. Maybe I used to oppress myself to code demos even when I didn't felt ok with it. I feel some pressure inside me, almost like psychosomatic, something telling me "Oh, I am bored to just sit here and code". At this part, of course, as expected, I get a lot of those absent minded where I sit down to code and everything goes wrong, my attention shifts to other things and I loose it. Ok, maybe this is just a way for myself to say "Knock it off, I don't want to code a demo right now. Give me something else to focus on!". But what?

Well, I do this thing too, what kept my mother worrying. But even then I just feel I don't get enough of my potential. Sometimes, I also wonder whether music or no music or other conditions would be more suitable or distract me but I haven't experimented really. I think the matter is also a matter of will, like I don't really want to code at specific time but I want to finish the demo in time.

I don't think it works for me. Usually I don't even consider trying. Once I was watching the Xardavellas show (with the paranormal shit) while trying to code something at the same time (hmm,. crazy, haven't done this before) and I couldn't focus at all (although I was trying to understand what they were saying on the show, not just as background noise)

Didn't considered that much before. But yes I remember once that some electronic music without lyrics worked very well, while some greek hip hop really killed my focus :P

However, I should still investigate which parts of coding gets me in the mood and which processes slows me down.

Cool, it sometimes works.

In some other times I am too lazy or feel oppressed that I won't even start, I won't even touch the compiler for a second for days. But if I touch it then magic happens. Although I avoid it. Maybe I am just lazy or don't really want to code a demo. Is there a cure?

Good, but the main problem happens when I am offline. We are not talking about defocus because of Pouet here.

Yes actually. We are not talking about the times I write on pouet where you'd think I should be doing something else. I am only talking about the specific time periods I sit down to code, I haven't opened any browser or anything, and my mind gets distracted, I simple have a bland look, I am absent minded for a long time. I don't mean being distracted by games/internet. It's just like an 8 hour, where 2 hours are coding and 6 hours are looking around and doing nothing (a bit exagerated) but all those 8 hours are me and the compiler and nothing else.

I'd like to stay in this point for a while and think about it. I have made this thought some months ago: Is it possible that someone might obsessively wish to release demos but not understanding that it's not what he exactly wants to do? I mean, is it possible that I THINK that I want to do demos, but I don't really understand it? Or I am in denial concerning this realization?

One possible explanation is that in the past I found the demoscene and wanted to make something (and maybe not explicitly liking every aspect of it but only some parts) and the primary reasons must be a meaning in my life, or gaining some self-esteem I lacked by releasing a demo. This might have become an obsession, a habit, waking every day and dreaming of demos I would like to do and become famous (although it wasn't 100% this, I also liked demos), especially I might have needed that. Nowadays, the old habit has remained as a bad virus in my brain, but maybe I don't explicitly need to code demos but I can try other things too. Although it's hard to kill the old habit. And the main question is where should I go? I mean, maybe I am afraid to 1) accept it, 2) leave back the demoscene which was always a primary source of meaning and self-esteem for me.

So, maybe it's possible that it's not the primary think I would wish to do, yet I can't let it go. And I still have ideas, it's not the I am bored, but the initial motivation is degraded while only the habit that makes me think I have to do demos remained.

I can't explain it elsewhere. If I wish to make demos and had it naturally I would have done it. Of course the same explanation could be used for every other aspect. If I struggle with being social or have it bad with girls, then maybe it's because it doesn't come to me naturally, so it shouldn't something that I have to do. Someone would disagree with this. Although lately I have no motivation for anything. I have nowhere to go..
added on the 2009-03-01 18:12:33 by havoc havoc
too much texts
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 08:54:37 by Sir Sir
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 10:07:56 by Puryx Puryx
forgot to thumb it.. up/down/whatever
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 10:26:28 by unic0rn unic0rn
I understand havoc's situation too well. I have exactly the same problem.

And piggie for the prod, it's ugly, but it's a firstie.
added on the 2009-03-02 10:46:18 by xTr1m xTr1m
sucks added on the 2009-03-19 16:02:33 by Sorcerer Sorcerer
sucks added on the 2009-03-22 12:47:30 by bumble-bee bumble-bee
added on the 2009-03-22 16:54:15 by SoDa7 SoDa7
added on the 2009-06-11 07:35:02 by Optimonk Optimonk
hallo, this isn't so good. sorry.
sucks added on the 2009-06-11 07:49:39 by Dano Dano

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