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Retrofitting by Cocoon [web]
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release date : october 2008
release party : Main 2008
compo : pc demo
ranked : 2nd
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  • 5
popularity : 68%
  • 0.69
alltime top: #948
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Pure Cocoon style !
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 14:03:02 by Shazz^TRSi^MJJ Shazz^TRSi^MJJ
yes ! ...
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 14:23:19 by _H2o_ _H2o_
Great Demo as always from Cocoon.
Forgot the Thumb up!
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 14:34:53 by bladerunner bladerunner
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 14:35:14 by aha aha
really good flooow. impressive modeling and texturing. music and synchro are really nice too.
nytrik you have improve your modeling skill since nazca!
pure coccon style!
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 14:36:51 by ckarl ckarl
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 14:45:30 by Buckethead Buckethead
adrien come on...
added on the 2008-10-19 14:46:29 by nytrik nytrik
what Shazz^TRSi^MJJ said !
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 14:47:05 by Anat Anat
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 14:57:08 by Warhead Warhead
These constant flashes were really annoying. Epileptics should probably not watch this!
Thumbs down for annoying me.
sucks added on the 2008-10-19 15:04:02 by Joghurt Joghurt
rough - which is damn fine for this aggressive design, counter-balanced by a perfect color palette, efficient effects, smooth 3D models and enjoyable soundtrack.

100% cocoon indeed :)
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 15:56:31 by Zest Zest
Didn't liked it so much. Not only it took a long time loading (and not loading bar) but it was a 3d flybye without any additional effects and not even something really beatiful you can stare like for example 3d flybyes from plastic. I mean, the 3d and graphics were still good but not impressive especially for the loading time.
added on the 2008-10-19 16:58:32 by Optimus Optimus
Really enjoyed that ride, i didnt find it so aggressive like Zest did, gritty sure but balanced out well with some really flowing moments, loved the soundtrack aswell, and that worm like thing rocks aswell :)
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 18:59:52 by keito keito
Too many flashing colours in this show, but you're still the best in tunnel and room flyby's!
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 19:43:11 by Bobic Bobic
Video please... did not run here.
added on the 2008-10-19 20:13:46 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
A little bit long to but runs perfcetly here
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 20:19:35 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
a bit long to *load* that is
added on the 2008-10-19 20:19:55 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Well executed ... a bit too flashy though, which keeps from really appréciating the show to its fullest !
But, the modeling plainly ownz !
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 20:47:31 by kohai kohai
Beautiful prod
Nice design and the tune really feet to the prod.
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 21:17:00 by Pulsar Pulsar
Cool gfx and music. Lovely melody towards the end. I'm very unsure about that flashing. On one side it adds some grittiness to the smooth 3d visuals. Makes things more disturbing which is cool. On the other hand it gets kind of annoying. I'd like to see how the demo would be with it enabled for longer periods of time and not as a flashing effect.

Anyways great demo! I don't get how you can keep churning out these top prods at such a high rate.
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 21:23:00 by loaderror loaderror
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 21:36:41 by rbz rbz
In my opinion not cocoon's best. I mean it looks and sounds good, but it didn't really take me on that "ride", like for instance Raw Confessions did.
added on the 2008-10-19 21:51:05 by extralife extralife
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 21:53:22 by Shockwave Shockwave
wow another great demo from cocoon ^_^

(ps: next time please make a loading bar ;P)
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 22:13:11 by pera pera
In my opinion there are lack of rush and missing coherency between scenes. I think the images are over postprocessed and I found flashing effects really cheap. Music is not my cup of tea, today.

still solid modelling and colours marks this demo to be "cocoonish"

so so thumb up.....
rulez added on the 2008-10-19 22:34:29 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
I found the music okish.
I really don't like the human models in cocoon demos :/.
Apart from this : rulez
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 05:34:43 by wullon wullon
I found it cool on the big screen, kudos cocoon ! (And thanks willbe for the final rls)
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 09:34:18 by SilkCut SilkCut
music has it's moments though.
added on the 2008-10-20 10:48:26 by a-move a-move
My favorite at the party, I like the aggressive style.
added on the 2008-10-20 11:16:00 by tobé tobé
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 11:34:18 by tobé tobé
i'm with tobe on this one
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 14:39:05 by havoc havoc
It was damn cool, but I kind of agree with loady about the flashing.
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 15:46:40 by kusma kusma
kusma : your last BP demo is a reference for me
added on the 2008-10-20 15:49:48 by nytrik nytrik
i would have thumbed up if it weren't for the flashing...it was really getting to me towards the end. Overall, I much prefer Nazca.
added on the 2008-10-20 16:47:09 by [HamsTeR] [HamsTeR]
Loved it although somehow felt a bit empty on content.. the music and design and even the flashing was well executed though!
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 17:24:43 by dv$ dv$
A Bit to yellow for my taste, but quite enjoyable
added on the 2008-10-20 19:44:57 by mSW mSW
any chance for a capture? :)
added on the 2008-10-20 19:48:11 by Proteque Proteque
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 19:57:03 by red red
Bit large but REALLY awesome!
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 20:16:48 by Agilo Agilo
@proteque: video at demoscene.tv
@all: thanks for your comments !
added on the 2008-10-20 20:36:04 by willbe willbe
i didn't like all the flashing nonesense, but the rest was cool.
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 20:39:56 by button button
I kind of liked the flash thing. A bit too much, but loved the look. Font was also nice, some overlays didn't fit on the thing.

Overall I think is my favourite cocoon prod since shad2.
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 20:45:25 by mrdoob mrdoob
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 20:45:39 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
my favourite cocoon prod since raw confessions, tho yeh, the flashes are frikking annoying!
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 21:05:04 by post malone post malone
That's rox ! Easily the better prod of the party !
But i prefer your main#2 prod !
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 21:12:35 by TiM TiM
Aye, very Cocoon-ish :). Great 3D scenes, a little overdone with the flashing though. Still easily a 'rulez'!
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 21:20:07 by Alpha C Alpha C
No THAT'S a mean soundtrack, meine Herren!
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 21:20:41 by Salinga Salinga
Like the texturing and the dak colours. Music ist good, too. As Alpa said, a little too flashy, but still my winner of the party (if you take the results seriously).
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 21:43:21 by CONS CONS
too much flashing, thus no thumb
added on the 2008-10-20 22:14:51 by zefyros zefyros
best demo of the year IMHO.
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 23:09:05 by nystep nystep
Extremely polished but it's not much fun
straight cocoon style. yay!
flashy overdose. duh!
willbe soundtrack. yay!
excellent ending. yay!
lacks innovation. duh!
sum: yay
rulez added on the 2008-10-20 23:55:25 by mueslee mueslee
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added on the 2008-10-20 23:57:57 by Salinga Salinga
salinga: try unzipping the archive :)

also, it crashes 10 out of 10 if you move the window in windowed mode :P

great demo, too much flashing, too white overlays, but nytrik already has my detailed buglist anyway :)
rulez added on the 2008-10-21 00:00:49 by Gargaj Gargaj
Flash me beautiful. Nice one Cocoon. Thanks for the greetings.
rulez added on the 2008-10-21 00:19:21 by iks iks
too much flashing.
added on the 2008-10-21 07:40:40 by jamcar jamcar
rulez added on the 2008-10-21 09:19:57 by fishwave/scx fishwave/scx
I wish that at some point, the rest of the Cocoon-guys would put Willbe's _EXCELLENT_ music to better use. Tunnels, metaballs and flashing..? Sure, nice modelling and lighting, but it's just so unbelievably uninspired. :(
added on the 2008-10-21 10:06:34 by gloom gloom
parapete : the main problem with fun is that you can not be fun all the time otherwise you get dull...
added on the 2008-10-21 17:51:16 by nytrik nytrik
I loved the start + the end. The rest.. I got a huge feeling of "I've watched this demo before". I loved the screen flash effect at the start too.. if it had been kept to there, it would have ruled.

Overall, weak thumb up for the strong start + end and the seen-before middle.
rulez added on the 2008-10-21 18:10:59 by psonice psonice
way too much flashes, but nice prod.
rulez added on the 2008-10-21 19:14:56 by ultraspider ultraspider
rulez added on the 2008-10-21 22:45:44 by scg_ scg_
sorry sorry sorry. if the rest was kick ass, I wouldnt mind but all that flashing almost made me puke. what´s the purpose of it all?
sucks added on the 2008-10-21 23:58:50 by SiR SiR
what mueslee said :)
rulez added on the 2008-10-22 13:49:22 by ɧ4ɾɗվ. ɧ4ɾɗվ.
rulez added on the 2008-10-22 13:50:42 by #535 #535
overall it looked pretty nice but was too much 3d engine showcase for my taste. still have to give thumb for the strobo that was really well executed.
rulez added on the 2008-10-22 14:09:54 by pommak pommak
pommak : thanks . while i was doing the strombo fx I was thing "for once MFX guy will thumb up one of our prod"
added on the 2008-10-22 14:28:16 by nytrik nytrik
i would have thumbed it down but the music saved it..

why? because i still dont like this type of demo :/ (especially not the epilepsy effect ;)
added on the 2008-10-22 14:55:22 by leijaa leijaa
Music's nice indeed. Although there seems to be no bass present in the mix at all.
added on the 2008-10-22 15:06:29 by tomaes tomaes
Nice show!
rulez added on the 2008-10-22 15:13:01 by Premium Premium
I guess most stuff has been pointed out already..
rulez added on the 2008-10-22 16:23:16 by faaret faaret
Heads growing out of surfaces, text overlays, long rotations around 3D scenes, pipes... no doubt, it's a Cocoon Flyby :)

It's far from being your best demo but personal tastes put aside there is some good work in it and the soundtrack is really good (as usual), so have a thumb up ;)
rulez added on the 2008-10-22 16:34:23 by keops keops
and extra thumb to be above that "ugly bag of mostly shit" that the french demoscene has become.
added on the 2008-10-22 16:48:29 by keops keops
keops : Thanks ... a lot
added on the 2008-10-22 16:56:32 by nytrik nytrik
awesomness, i love it, last minute was really creepy
great work guys
rulez added on the 2008-10-22 17:15:55 by blz blz
Absolutely beautiful graphics, but I don't think the flashing, jumping and upbeat music works very well for a dark theme like this.
added on the 2008-10-22 18:40:50 by Wade Wade
solid production. some nice models in there, too. too much asynchronous flashing imho, but then, "hauptsache strobo". the beats are cool, too. good work.
rulez added on the 2008-10-22 21:05:38 by jco jco
maybe what wade said.....
I've got a HUGE loading time :\\
added on the 2008-10-23 00:00:37 by bdk bdk
added on the 2008-10-23 14:53:01 by neptun neptun
rulez added on the 2008-10-23 15:48:11 by src src
woha. Really really nice. I really love the dark theme and the last 30 seconds are just very moody! gotta love this. yous best demo so far. however I do agree that the flashing was kinda annoying (and out of sync here but could be my computer?)
rulez added on the 2008-10-23 17:47:46 by Proteque Proteque
very nice -- but i also disliked the more than ample flashing
rulez added on the 2008-10-23 20:16:11 by superplek superplek
Not a big fan of the cocoon style (textures/models) but music is nice!
added on the 2008-10-23 21:34:23 by beavis77 beavis77
also, i feel that the model of that zombie-like resident evil style guy wasnt really used to its full potential (was expecting some more detailed close ups and eerie action, but alas)
added on the 2008-10-23 21:35:44 by superplek superplek
rulez added on the 2008-10-25 12:35:47 by got got
Darkstyle but rulez... nice production.
rulez added on the 2008-10-25 15:47:31 by tttttttttttttttt tttttttttttttttt
Sincerely i'm sorry but it's not my cup of tea...
(... except soundtrack is ok)
sucks added on the 2008-10-25 18:36:27 by Bhl! Bhl!
Great stuff! The soundtrack is really cool! Also some awesome work by Nytrik etc....
rulez added on the 2008-10-25 18:47:19 by chromag chromag
OK, there needs to be a graph or something about loading the demo in the beginning. I had to wait like three minutes and thought the demo crashed. :(

Demo was OK. Nothing special.
added on the 2008-10-25 23:14:37 by AntDude AntDude
I like cocoon demos, but... My only impression on this one was the beginning and the greetingspart with big gratitude too willbe who still makes the best demomusic out there.
added on the 2008-10-26 01:58:05 by rudi rudi
\o/ cocoon is still back \o/
rulez added on the 2008-10-28 15:06:42 by eye eye
rulez added on the 2008-10-29 03:25:14 by blackpawn blackpawn
great stuff. cocoon rox.
rulez added on the 2008-10-29 18:29:00 by comankh comankh
good. if it only wasnt for those nasty flashes throughout the demo ...
rulez added on the 2008-10-30 17:02:13 by gopher gopher
I liked everything but the flashing.
rulez added on the 2008-10-30 21:11:41 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
i haven't seen such a good demo for months ! what a great nu breakz tune, cool graphics, simple but working effects, makes me think of a matt current style, a massive double thumbsup !
rulez added on the 2008-10-31 00:40:05 by SoundSquare SoundSquare
Blinking ruins demo....but still thumbs up for a great show.
rulez added on the 2008-11-01 10:41:45 by tFt tFt
Smith chart :D
rulez added on the 2008-11-01 14:01:45 by zeroshift zeroshift
Ugly, but great music.
added on the 2008-11-02 15:18:18 by Claw Claw
for the kickass music! visuals were ok!
rulez added on the 2008-11-06 10:28:27 by zeebr zeebr
the stroboscope and overlays got pretty annoying after a while and couldn't really hide that it wasn't more than a moderately pretty 3D flyby
sucks added on the 2008-11-09 22:28:03 by stijn stijn
Not bad eyecandy, really not bad. And I like the blinkiblinking.
rulez added on the 2008-11-10 11:34:11 by deepr deepr
übershow :)
rulez added on the 2008-11-10 12:58:30 by Ized Ized
I love the end part.
rulez added on the 2008-11-10 19:50:15 by Mystra Mystra
could do with less blinking
seriously this made my eyes hurt
added on the 2008-11-10 21:12:43 by Speed Speed
Hi Piment! Nice demo! I like the metal-snake!

rulez added on the 2008-11-11 22:51:34 by leonard leonard
It looks great and has some pretty cool music. But why-o-why, do they need metaballs in every production - you master it, we get it :-) Now, think of some other form of dynamic geometry, there's plenty...
rulez added on the 2008-11-13 09:32:10 by d3pth d3pth
d3pth : you said it !
rulez added on the 2008-11-13 09:59:35 by nytrik nytrik
rulez added on the 2008-11-14 15:28:29 by texel texel
Self voting sucks :(
sucks added on the 2008-11-14 15:33:58 by rez rez
i like the last releases more... music was great... but still good cocoon style... so thumb up!
rulez added on the 2008-11-15 20:52:50 by s7ing_ATZ s7ing_ATZ
Haha, loved the Smith chart.
rulez added on the 2008-11-16 23:58:16 by Paaris Paaris
Very high quality. I think that the flashing is slightly overused. It fits some parts perfectly, though
rulez added on the 2008-11-28 12:49:59 by Optima Optima
Sincerely, I know the amount of work there is in this production, but "too much blinking" killed the show. It fastly bored me. Anyway liked the end.
added on the 2008-12-09 18:20:46 by ok3anos ok3anos
Nah, this is ok so piggy
added on the 2008-12-09 19:28:58 by noby noby
This prod will be my farewell to the demoscene...after 15 years it is time for me to retire.

nytrik stops demo.
added on the 2008-12-13 00:01:40 by nytrik nytrik
take a break and come back!
added on the 2008-12-17 08:37:25 by Speed Speed
rulez added on the 2008-12-17 09:03:23 by PENETRATOR PENETRATOR
well made, okish style
added on the 2009-01-11 22:49:42 by T$ T$
Nytrik: you can leave the demoscene but how can the demoscene leave you?
I hope Cocoon will release a new demo at BP09 !
rulez added on the 2009-01-11 23:14:03 by magic magic
I'm thumbing it up not only because it's a good demo but also to motivate nytrik (he he) : there's no such thing as retirement for sceners, only rest periods. I hope to see more of your art anytime soon.
rulez added on the 2009-01-24 07:51:51 by micdune micdune
mic : ha alors ca veut dire que evil metal et cortexx vont faire un come back un jour ? :)
added on the 2009-01-30 21:58:15 by nytrik nytrik
A great show. All the best to nytrik. your graphics inspired me since the late 90ies. I'll hope you'll have your rest
rulez added on the 2009-02-06 21:48:58 by Paralax Paralax
btw: is this prod's official title just "retrofitting" or "retrofitting for mrs connor" as hinted by the nfo file?
added on the 2009-02-06 21:50:38 by Paralax Paralax
this is even better than Nazca, and Shad3
Design rocks! colours, inverse sepia shader, models are somewhat sublime
You did a good joob on this guys!
rulez added on the 2009-03-17 14:24:43 by JaK JaK
code music graphics everything fits in perfectly. It's called art. It's called style.
rulez added on the 2009-03-27 19:47:34 by TomS4wy3R TomS4wy3R
good one
rulez added on the 2009-07-10 18:03:18 by seppjo seppjo
You can't go wrong with Cocoon. Everytime you start one of their demos you will experience:

- Great graphics and outstanding modelling
- Nice effects with a good flow
- A very nice engine, everything moves without a hiccup
- And, of course, a fantastic track by Willbe!

And this one is no exception. My deepest respect for all the effort you invest again and again...

(PS: Will you release something @ Main09?)
rulez added on the 2009-08-19 21:57:32 by Stebo Stebo
Nice, but I felt like I was watching strobo and it got really annoying.
added on the 2009-10-04 17:43:03 by Maissi Maissi
rox ette!
rulez added on the 2010-01-11 22:06:47 by F7sus4 F7sus4
dead link...
added on the 2011-01-20 17:53:13 by Aszazin Aszazin
cool show, a bit too much flashing at times tho.
btw. what's that font?
rulez added on the 2011-05-07 14:31:48 by v3nom v3nom

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