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Well done boys!

peace

IZM/Razor1911

W3 Ar3 n0t d3ad :)
W3 ar3 da B3ST !!!!

w3 0wnz a11 j00 lamer's azz.

Rayz0r Forever!

Yeah, coz replay will fix your video card then ;)

Great work boys! I love the design! The music suits perfect!

Paris^RZR

empty++cliché++dull++slow

why do you rate your own production?

yawn.. oooh, there's a blue line moving.. yawn.. oh, there are greetz, yawn.. meta-yawn-balls.. yawnshaded cubes, ain't that cute.. yawn.. yawntune rulez.. wake me up when it's over, yawn..

voting for your own production sucks.

You better sue us now, Macaw ;)

Dear GOD this is boring. And uninteresting.

boring. just some simple 3d objects ..

seen that a billion times. it's soo slow and no new ideas at all.

Come on all !

It's a comeback ... GIve RAZOR1911 sometime to get all their things up ...

Keep up IZM !!

i understand that opinion when we'd be talking about first demos by absolute newbies. but one could expect more behind that big name.

bollocks is this a "razor comeback". its not the original people. its a load of wannabies living on the name.
dont rate them on what they used to be, rate them on what they do now. and the stuff they have done has been really pretty bad.
they wont "get their things up" because they arent the real thing.

sorry..

What is this?

"We decided to remove the memberlist for security reasons. If you need to get in touch with someone from our team, feel free to email us and we'll see what we can do to help."

"crap as fuck" (tn)

yeah, right, this is not the ORIGINAL team, from the back dayz ...

Or maybe i'm too high on COOLNESS and LAIDBACK 'oldskool-friendship-ok-not-the-best-but-keep-up' spirit

"bollocks is this a "razor comeback". its not the original people. its a load of wannabies living on the name."

WTF would you know?
Dont like the production, say so, but keep your lame bullshit to yourself, cos you dont know fuck all.

i do not like this prod. it is boring.
besides that, smash is right.

Smash, are you the orginal from fairlight?

if no, fuck off.

Smash, are you the orginal from fairlight?

if no, fuck off.

It's big fun to watch some retards here claim facts without even get to know the truth first. I always thought some arab countries are full of lamers who speak without switching on their brains. I might have to reconsider this opinion and include a couple of demoscene members too.

Listen, Razor1911 Demo Division -IS- official. If you don't believe this, why not just contact original Razor1911 founders and ask?

Oh, I'm sorry I forgot that those idiots here - who identify themselves as impersonated wisdom - they won't even probably know their handles.

If that's the case, contact me so I can send you a tissue. We're so sorry you won't find members on the razor homepage, but this is probably because we don't want to get spammed by guys who ask similar stupid questions or come up with "highest-standard rumours" like these.

If you have no brain, please swap your keyboard for a cell culture that can take over this job for ya.

Last but not least - If you don't like Marsik, then be happy and spank. We never claimed Marsik to be revolutionary or to kick the shit out of the rest. Still, I think Marsik looks very well designed - it's clean, nice and if you take a look at the size, it would also make up a good intro. The goal of Marsik is "design", a job that I think has been done well!

Thumbs up.
Chotaire

I love. (espacially the cheapdemo)
Remember an old amiga demo from razor "WE ARE FIRST" i'am looking for... (big scroll & vertical raster)
any links to D/L ?

Woa.

This thingy is about as interesting as watching grass growing.

Don't understand all the hype though - it's just a booooring attempt to do a design intro, and whether this is a Razor 1911 production or not doesn't change anything for better or for worse.

This is a comeback intro? Your problem. Don't see in what way that changes anything though.

This demo breaks new ground by giving the term 'boring' new meaning. Okay, so the code seems polished, but that's to be expected for something so simple.

hmm.. well.. I do agree that it is sort of boring. I think people have been a little harsh in the comments because they're annoyed with the razor members posting and rating here though :)
It's good to see an intro by some members I don't recognize which is polished/dignified and seems to have accomplished all of what it was intended to.. so it could be a sign of good things to come? do people find me too optimistic? :)

yes izm i am the original smash from fairlight =) and i was in razor1911 in 1999-2000, in the first "official razor comeback".
so the point is, yeh its "official" because the razor warez organisers have sanctioned it. but its not the "original" and much loved razor crew from amiga days. so dont compare it. its no real "comeback". treat it as a new group or something and forget all the stupid hype..

wahen a good group die ... it s over ...
1) because founders were good at their time and because it s no longerthe case with d3d and so ...

2)Because team spirit is gone

3) because even if founders come back they never have the free time they had when they were young

Demo is a matter of youth...
that s sad but that s all.

nytrik: not true. you won't believe how many sceners there are who have been among us for already more than 10 years and who put more time into productions than they did when they were pupils. When it comes to your theory of team spirit, that's wrong too.... it's always a question of PEOPLE to remember the spirit - if they can, it's alright, if they can't they might wanna retire sooner or later, since they'll put their spare time into other reallife things then. the sooner you climb the top, the sooner you will be bored, because your "idols" turn out to be just normal humans with pimples and stinking t-shirts. :)

smash: what hype? you're about to see some well designed productions by very talented sceners. some of them been there almost as long as the first person speaking about "2922" (one reason why YOU might not know them). but what hype? did I miss anything?

bigcheese: yours is one of the first useful comments on this topic. congrats.

disappointing

the irony of naming the coder after the group that they obviously ripped is kinda amusing ;-)

but if you're going to watch razor-demo-pc stuff, then go watch mindstammer og bewahren sie ruhe.

maybe you should cut of ten minutes each scene it pretty darn boring.

it sucks even :D

macaw: You're the most funny child of them all. Why not advertize your own shit on your own homepages? Your homepages are unfinished beta crap for ages - if I was as funny as you, I'd say it reflects your character perfectly :)

You're shortterm razor1911 HISTORY from just a dozen months ago - you don't obviously make me believe you are the reborn Razor spirit himself. When you got interested into the scene, the old days of Razor were already over for ages. Wherever I look, I see you pissing on Razor. Have you ever thought about the possibility that the OLD razor members PISS on you? :)

Ok, enough rags with embryos for this week - you're just as boring as you claim the demo to be. Your attitude is just lame, I wouldn't wonder if you're groupless nowadays (atleast ojuice says so, why not atleast update THAT page instead of pissing against every tree you find?)

PS. Don't even think of boring me with useless replies. I cared about flames from guys with an attitude like yours at times when you thought that the "scene" is actually something like "my mother gets beaten up by my father again". You sweet arrogant pussy ;)

Off for something real.

Don't fuck with history. We all know what scene has been in the past, but real sceners are more involved in what scene is nowadays and in the incoming future. Leave memories to grannies...

www.chotaire.net

<< News for sceners: I have recently joined forces at Razor 1911 demo division. I'll be the musician and craptalker for the time being. It's a pleasure for me to be in a group that probably is the overall best ranked PC scene group in history. Being used to be a member of #1 groups, such as AFL on c64, I enjoy to continue this tradition.
>>

I don't even understand how and why someone it can be said it's "well designed". If you have the answer, tell me !

Someone said it was well-designed because that person was a member of Razor.

chotaire, please enlighten us as to who are these older razor members that took part in making this intro?

also, who ranked razor1911 to be the #1 pcscene group and when?

Why not start a BBS-thread over this stupid argument? As I see it, this isn't the place.

The prod; Even though the music was nice, it's far too slowly paced, and it didn't really have any content. Borderline to sucks.

I think your right, this isnt the place, but its funny to me, that its the ex razor members who diss the hardest.
We dont claim to be number 1 and its obviuos we are far from it, but, that doesnt mean we dont put in effort.
It seems everyone just slags on everyone elses releases, no matter if its good or shit, then when they release somethig, they say "Oh but we made this in 3 mins" when you know its a load of shit. I cant see why people cant be more positive and takes things less serious, you know your gonna end up with bowel cancer anyhow ;)

IZM

Interesting colors and 'ok' music. The effects are nothing new or exciting, the design is missing and (oh yes) it's boring. It does not suck however. :-)

"I hate soap opera" (c)

IZM: "We dont claim to be number 1", ok. What does comments like "WE ARE THE BEST" mean then?

macaw, come now, are you really so stupid as to think he was not JOKING?!
"W3 Ar3 n0t d3ad :)
W3 ar3 da B3ST !!!!

w3 0wnz a11 j00 lamer's azz.

Rayz0r Forever! "

ffs , if you dont think its a joke, then you are.

Sorry, but judging by the way you're behaving here, this could've very well been serious.

hey cool, another war.

but ehm, this prod sucks donkeydick, it is more boring than.. well... something extremely boring...

wow what a war...
Are all people sceners here? I see many "sucks" from people who present nothing...
Where is the spirit? demoscene is a pleasure, not a duty!
some people who think are scener because they are seeing some demos are just lamers.
stop fucking razor off, or any other demo group, product for fun.

It's better than the last razor production I saw, (can't remember it's name... well it was a weird name anyway, like '#$@%22643' or something) and it actually lost to our gameboy demo (here) at the party :p.
Not so bad this intro, quite boring though...

boring indeed - but it takes off really nice - i mean the very beginning. compared to lots of other productions coming out these days, i dont think this one sucks - its a decent little intro, just nothing outstanding.

It's cool. 3d ... 2d is nice too, scrolltext, paralax, sprite, bob...

"Demo" came from the old school, no ? So why tell that Demo is a matter of youth :((

Pc demo doesn't make me crazy:
"whaaa! what a great stuff, i can't believe it". Only few releases are cool.
I explain: Nothing fabulous if you look with what hardware they have been coded. When i look a quake like, i think that 3d is a bit boring if you don't use 2d effects.
I love these long scrolltext... It like if that has never exist now :(
Demo doesnt need to be the most technical, but must make us think that was impossible to do, without weird things, but only artistics stuff and FUN.
I loooOOOOoove you Razor !
This intro is a bit little for a lot of people, but for me you rule, and i enjoy your return :)

(sorry for the bad english)

"but if you're going to watch razor-demo-pc stuff, then go watch mindstammer og bewahren sie ruhe"

hahahahahahahaha wahwhahahaha
YES, everyone go see Mindstammer, cos it's done by Macaw, and see how "31337" this demo is produce by the guy who say the most in here who is also a ex-Razor.

actually macaw had no part in mindstammer, we did it before he joined. get your facts right before your flame, jees..

smash: he mentioned two productions. he was involved into one of them and future comrades were involved into the prior one. not a big deal, and it's cool to be proud of own productions, but why promote that in the same post? looked pretty childish to me, but oh well... I don't give a flying pile.

macaw: thanks for posting my homepage contents here. still, it's obvious I have not been mentioning the demo division in that one sentence, and even if I did: I show something like "SUPPORT" and "BELIEVE" into my group, such as I have deepest respects for the groups I was in before. This is something that other people should learn to, it makes history worthier to remember and future more productive :)

babs^doh: I don't know you, but you absolutely got the point. we are productive for supporting the scene and make it more fun, such as to give pleasure to people who like what we do. if others don't like it, why don't they just shut up and do it better themselves? competition is not "talk talk talk", it's about to DO BETTER and drink a beer with those who were beaten. we're not in afghanistan.

kuuba: everyone who wanted to be listed for productive work within the demo is to be seen in the credits. those who are not listed to be supportive, don't want you to know. we have reasons for not publishing a few members, as they are not interested in contacts. closing topic here, sorry for not helping you out on this case.

although ragging is big fun (such as it always was), there are a few people here to might be right when they say this is not the right place for that shit. why not close topic?

I think there are some people who overreact on primarily "fun comments", they have gotten a common reply and we should just continue to be productive. catch you all l8ers.

i agree on the fact that this is a bit slow and long/boring but it's not worst than today's average accelerated shit... if you gave it a "suck", you'd put your thumbs down for more than 50% of new PC productions... i guess this sort of flame war is mainly motivated by the fact that they call themselves Razor 1911 :)

macaw, I still love you, but when will you ever say anything good about anybodys work? every post you do is negative nacy stuff. I guess it makes it all the more fun.

"the irony of naming the coder after the group that they obviously ripped is kinda amusing ;-) "

what did that mean anyhow?
Everyone here seems to bit a bit muddled on stuff. On Facts mainly. Flame wars are great, if you have the correct information.

Know your enemy like your best friend.

I appologize for voting for our own prod. i did'nt think twice about it ;) So no hard feelings please!

macaw, I agree with IZM here... you rarely say something positive about other ppls productions. How come? Is there a way to make you say "Wow!"? You even argued about intros like the.product... I wonder how someone is supposed to make you happy :)

Well, in the end it should be fun. That's why we do the things we do ;)

Paris

haha... is this slow or what?!
like wathing a cube spinning 1 rpm for 10 minutes.
even the chiptune isn't very good.

I think this is quite neat for 46kb. A bit "slow", but the design was very well done. A nice "demo" clearly attempting to grasp the essence of old Razor 1911 design (and I should know).

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IZM: replay is/was a swedish demogroup.

Veeeeery slow, but nice. I like it.

Deathly boring. I had more fun in my French exam.

"code. replay"
so it seems

"IZM: replay is/was a swedish demogroup. "

I know they are also a demo group.. and what does that have to do with us? cos we have a coder named replay.
where is the similarity?.

FFS.

IZM

boring, too slowpaced... nothing happening... dissappointing... I actually do expect more from Razor1911 (even if this is made by new guys)

Please, stop stupid comments and do some incredible prods !

Stv/Popsy TeaM

anyways for 4 days coding it's good !!!

"hey, let's make an average dull flat shaded 'design' intro, only we'll have the fucker run in slowmo!"
"wow man, great idea!"

get over it,

Masterbate

damn. i've had an idea of making one like _'s description for ages, except that it would become asymptotically slower and slower and slower and never finish.

oh well.. gotta think of something even better (tm)

(no i haven't seen this. and not going to. judging by comments the prod is completely irrelevant.)

Hmm
it's not bad why does it have to be fast ?
it kinda flows with the music and slumgud is one of the best composers in the demoscene only my five cents.
Estrayk is still my favourite though.
sure i have seen better but well maybe razors next production will be as good as the best ive seen.

yes it's slow, so what?
the music rocks

The popularity bar should be replaced by a controversity one. :)

Not much to look at. Very slow paced. The music is rather good actually.

what the hell is this hunk of shit? I think I fell asleep during this.. what utter bollox! no real content, just simple objects, my granma could code better than this in 512bytes (music and all!) avoid this pile of crap.. music sucks arse too.. u can't of honestly had fun coding this..

this poop should have a health warning.. may induce coma.. its rubbish!!!

ok, I'm done.

made me yawn :/ - but the music was ok

sulphur, aleast ure original in you comment, no1 asked you to dl it, but you did, and u felt deep pain, maybe you need an enema?
I suggest, 2 prozac a day!
if your grandma can code better than us, ask to join us for me will ya?!
thanx!

bahhhhhhhh

bahhhhhhhh

boring ...

i dont give a shit about production times.
4 days is *way* too long for this =)

bring on the better excuses ;)

W3 Ar3 n0t d3ad :)
W3 ar3 da B3ST !!!!

w3 0wnz a11 j00 lamer's azz.

Rayz0r Forever!
- = -
This is the lowest form
of communication
I've seen.
bye.

Nice design, nice music, tidy code (again) by replay = 8/10
Not living up to razor history = irrelevant

If only people would judge productions based on face value instead of perceived reputation. Its getting very boring to hear 'Not as good as hjb/fr/blah'

strange but cool

Shut the fuck up everybody and make GOOD prods, please! Thank you.

Perfectly boring.
Clean design.
Thumb up.

I liked it, the objects outlines fitted quite well, in my opinion :P

quiet.

nice

Haha, the comments are fun. The prod, sadly, is not.

Ugly and boring. Real Razor is here. :)

or here.. ;P

It is sad to say, but razor is dead...

nice chillout demo

for the drama

ok

nice

The comments here have historical value. It's good to see that all this hatred and arrogance from 15 years ago has vanished.

nice and chilly