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screenshot added by Gargaj on 2005-09-12 16:12:14
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release date : september 2005
release party : Sundown 2005
compo : combined demo/intro
ranked : 1st
  • rulez 87
  • is ok 14
  • sucks 3
popularity : 67%
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  • rulez 0.81
alltime top: #841
added on the 2005-09-12 15:00:42 by smash smash

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supergood garbage ;)
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 15:09:29 by zeebr zeebr
new flt prod - high quality - great sound track reed mate! :) plus some wonderfull wobbly clean 3d lines... wicked.
check it out now!!
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 15:10:00 by ne7 ne7
btw, i forgot to put the "exit if no ps1.1 found" bit in (late night partycoding again..), so if you have rubbish gfx hardware, god knows what'll happen.. =)
added on the 2005-09-12 15:10:39 by smash smash
nice one...
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 15:11:14 by titus^rab titus^rab
awesome design, nice prod!
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 15:14:25 by iks iks
Quote:
btw, i forgot to put the "exit if no ps1.1 found" bit in (late night partycoding again..), so if you have rubbish gfx hardware, god knows what'll happen.. =)


the 3d prolly wont even show ;D
added on the 2005-09-12 15:16:15 by Maali Maali
ahhhhhh...
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 15:25:31 by 4kum4 4kum4
rocked on the bigscreen!
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 15:30:04 by xeron xeron
excellent!
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 16:01:46 by parcelshit parcelshit
rox i would like to have a garbage like it :)
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 16:06:41 by ken0 ken0
miles better than Che Guevara. seriously.
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 16:09:35 by Gargaj Gargaj
I agree with Gargaj, this wipes the floor with Che Guevara.
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 16:11:27 by Preacher Preacher
I prefer Che Guevara, that one is even more static than Che Guevara :S
added on the 2005-09-12 16:34:40 by mrdoob mrdoob
what gargaj said :)
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 16:56:44 by bzz bzz
Quote:

btw, i forgot to put the "exit if no ps1.1 found" bit in (late night partycoding again..), so if you have rubbish gfx hardware, god knows what'll happen.. =)


i have a rubbish gfx hw and i'm sure it doesn't have any pissed shader. but our God managed to show me this very nice intro at a marvelous framerate of 4 fps. dunno if those effects i've seen are due to the missing shaders or what :)
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 17:07:11 by rmeht rmeht
Good for a 64k... Acctually thought it was a lame demo first, but the lack of music kindof gave a hint :)

And yeah, alot nicer to watch than che.. However still rather booring, and dropping framerate is never nice.
added on the 2005-09-12 17:11:17 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Why such big CPU usage? My 1.6GHz processor is not enough already.
added on the 2005-09-12 17:16:22 by imbusy imbusy
hax!
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 17:17:39 by Lord Graga Lord Graga
great 64k.
funky design and good music.
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 18:04:49 by got got
Runs sluggish on my p4 2.8ghz+radeon 9600. Pretty nice design wise.
added on the 2005-09-12 18:07:03 by bruce bruce
oh, make sure you dont have d3d debug runtimes on like stefan, it's an easy way to make it run veeery slowly.

main reasons for bad performance otherwise would be a slow cpu (the realtime synth likes a reasonable amount of power, less than 2ghz cpus can struggle) and a lack of fillrate - i got a few large rendertarget/full frame processes going on. although that really doesnt explain why a 2.8 with 9600 would be running slow, it ran well on less. mmm.

oh well. =)
added on the 2005-09-12 18:32:21 by smash smash
What got said. However, che guevara and death&taxes were way better in my book (probably because they had some characters and whatnot)
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 18:40:09 by NeARAZ NeARAZ
Bad music, bad style and very boring!
sucks added on the 2005-09-12 18:46:14 by Cj Cj
totally awesome, really good music :)
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 18:52:33 by ogge_ ogge_
Smash, it drops to 18fps now and then. I'm using the latest drivers and I'm using the retail d3d runtime.

added on the 2005-09-12 19:07:21 by bruce bruce
det här var fint och mycket vackert.
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 19:18:40 by dubmood dubmood
It's impressive work, but I hate the visual style too much to give it a thumb up. Plus I think Reed has done better music too.

Just ok for me dawg.
Handsome style.
Goody!
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 19:40:22 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
simply rocking
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 19:43:26 by raymon raymon
I second gargaj.
this one's really fresh, smooth and nice to watch!
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 19:53:40 by styx^hcr styx^hcr
smash: Fix your d3d code and shut up bitch :-)
added on the 2005-09-12 19:53:44 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
RESTEKP!
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 20:08:36 by zoom zoom
yeah, that's ali g's joke :D
actually i dont like it very much, but hell, it looks different, and looks good, so what the hell
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 20:27:17 by apricot apricot
cool.
With heavy light and audio it must be really trippy.
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 20:32:30 by p01 p01
the retro colours rock, the effects rock, the tune rocks.. nice on the bigscreen! love it!
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 21:35:47 by dv$ dv$
great as ever when it comes to smash's little creations!
Precalc time really blow me away, I was just about too go get myself a cup of coffee during the ~2 minute generating time ( from the previous intros ) and the bugger started right away!
rulez added on the 2005-09-12 23:34:55 by ekoli ekoli
nice.
rulez added on the 2005-09-13 00:42:14 by Buckethead Buckethead
that s really cool
rulez added on the 2005-09-13 09:38:34 by nytrik nytrik
Restekp! I love this!
rulez added on the 2005-09-13 09:59:42 by chock chock
Bug report: the loading bar crashed, and it went straight into the demo before I got a good chance to admire it for 5 minutes.

Nice style in this one, I prefer it to che guevara too. Less impressive, but more fun. Typography has improved too, and I really liked the quantized ribbon effect thingy. Repsekt!
rulez added on the 2005-09-13 14:07:31 by psonice psonice
looks great! some very nice coded effect aswell. music rocks
rulez added on the 2005-09-13 15:11:06 by Duckers Duckers
demostyle!!
rulez added on the 2005-09-13 17:14:09 by loaderror loaderror
GOOCHTASTIC
rulez added on the 2005-09-13 19:11:12 by SiW SiW
Instant thumbs up!
rulez added on the 2005-09-13 19:24:41 by Optimus Optimus
Nice and groovy. Smooth shadows and really good music.
rulez added on the 2005-09-13 20:21:45 by ManJIT ManJIT
cool style, but got somewhat boring. but i works great
rulez added on the 2005-09-14 15:37:58 by quisten quisten
fresh
rulez added on the 2005-09-14 17:39:55 by kusma kusma
fairlight will save the scene!! \o/
Demostyle \o/ Yay! Great work, the colours are exactly what I typically fancy, but it worked alright. The music is so funky and alive for a 64k! One of the best thing I've seen for months!

And finally something working on my shitty gf4mx - yeah, I surely need an upgrade.
rulez added on the 2005-09-15 21:03:36 by d3pth d3pth
:)
rulez added on the 2005-09-15 22:06:45 by las las
yes, very good.
rulez added on the 2005-09-16 03:43:19 by pdx pdx
it's very good at being very, very slow. I was hoping it was just the temporary radeon 8500 in my home machine, but it crawled on every modern machine, cool graphics card or not, I could get my hands on. Some of the "screenshots" promised nice graphics, but I'm not sure if the stifling framerates were part of the design.

Here's hoping the hiatus of FLT will incorporate optimization of routines :(
added on the 2005-09-16 04:19:43 by Shifter Shifter
shifter: it runs at a respectable framerate (above 30fps, not what i'd call very very slow) on my laptop with radeon 9000 mobility, and ran perfectly (full framerate throughout) on my home machine with a geforce 6600gt and the other machines tested on with geforce6-level cards. just checked it on my work machine too (which has a gf5700, renouned for being a pile of poo) and again, it worked at full framerate (vsync rate) throughout.
these days i set all the rendertarget sizes etc to be the appropriate resolution so it looks good on a typical, but good, gfxcard, which i would say is today a 9800 or gf6600. that means that here we have a 1024x1024 shadowmap that is applied quite a lot of times to give a blur. switching that shadowmap to a lower res makes it run fine on my laptop (and probably most low-end cards too), but makes it look worse, so i prefer to make it look better. (fuck the poor :D)

this is the technically simplest 64k i did in ages. the only likely bottlenecks are:
- cpu usage. all the machines i tested on have a good cpu, mix of amd and intel (at least 2ghz), i simply dont have access to a slower one. the music uses some power, although less than in che or death&taxes. some of the fx use a bit of cpu - i.e. they actually use cpu AT ALL this time - but not an unreasonable amount, it should be comfortable on any modern machine. and guess what, i actually did optimise the code.
- fillrate. there's no complex shaders or anything on the geometry, and no complex geometry either, so the only possible gpu killer left is the fillrate abusing fullscreen fx, namely edge detect and the shadowmap. this is where my radeon 9000 suffers, it really doesnt like applying large rendertargets to the screen. but again, on any decent gfxcard (like, 9600 or so i guess) it should be fine, and i'd rather have something that is nicer looking.

so. seeing as it worked perfectly well on so many tested machines, and there's nothing really risky here, i can't really give a reason why it should run badly when you used such "modern" machines to run it on (unless your definition of modern is 5 years behind the rest of the world). unless it's to offer a usual bullshit excuse like upgrading your drivers, or unless you were so stupid as to run it on d3d debug runtimes. maybe (it's quite possible) there is some stupid bug in the code which makes it incredibly slow on a certain config, i dont know - but i havent been able to get it to manifest itself on any of the 6 or more machines i tested it on.

perhaps if you give some details as to these machines you ran it on, it might help me find the problem.

to your "optimisation" comment - blow it out your ass. perhaps you should think to yourself, just maybe, "they actually know what they are doing, most other people said it ran smooth, maybe there is something funny going on here". cos as you should know, telling a democoder to optimise their routines could be one of the most insulting things to say to them. if i could sue for libel, i would ;)

added on the 2005-09-16 10:35:49 by smash smash
Enjoyed your demo with the nice big sound system at the party. Looks good on my laptops 17" screen too and sounds nice with my cans on, bassline is groovy! I can liken the demo to a disco funky modern and more exciting version of "Cassius 1999". Good meeting you guys the weekend, keep up the superb work.
rulez added on the 2005-09-17 05:16:39 by jupiter909 jupiter909
YESSS!!
rulez added on the 2005-09-17 05:21:30 by XP^TRS XP^TRS
Interesting design which is different. Not a bad demo.
added on the 2005-09-17 11:38:33 by AntDude AntDude
A melonstration anno domini 2005.

great stuff ;)
rulez added on the 2005-09-18 18:34:35 by magic magic
cool stuff!
rulez added on the 2005-09-18 18:49:55 by melw melw
Yeah, it was cool.
rulez added on the 2005-09-18 22:08:38 by PinZa PinZa
Graphics really sux, but the rest is perfect, good work.
rulez added on the 2005-09-19 19:10:33 by bull bull
Pretty sweet. How many demos WILL these guys release. hehe I hope the list never dies. :D
rulez added on the 2005-09-19 19:54:06 by Rubicante Rubicante
Quote:
i can't really give a reason why it should run badly when you used such "modern" machines to run it on (unless your definition of modern is 5 years behind the rest of the world)


Ha ha, not the case -Athlon XP 2800+ machines being the slowpokes in the list, I really resent that statement ;) (That makes us even for the blowing out of my ass statement, I gather)

Considering the other intros you mentioned *do* run nice and so forth, I really wonder... either they magically hate this specific intro or voodoo is involved.

At least the music was doing okay, and that was certainly nice. I like the melon+orange-esque design in the crawling framerate, but the thumb is clenched in the fist right now. Gimme a bugfix ;)
added on the 2005-09-19 22:52:27 by Shifter Shifter
I didn't like it; (personal bias towards cartoonydemos), also thought a bit slow. But the design is very different. And well executed
added on the 2005-09-20 16:42:19 by Gaia Gaia
it's okay.
added on the 2005-09-20 23:24:46 by gloom gloom
Quote:
or voodoo is involved.

No wonder then, those cards shouldnt be supposed to support shaders at all, they're at least 8-10 years old by now.
...
HE HE HE HE ;((((((((
added on the 2005-09-20 23:48:28 by Gargaj Gargaj
Yep, looked nice
rulez added on the 2005-09-21 20:24:38 by shash shash
Nice style and music.
rulez added on the 2005-09-23 01:49:05 by bdk bdk
Maybe a bit too static, but apart from that pure gold! I love the design and Message, and the music ruled too (don't retire just yet, Reed :)) .. Melonstration my ass.
rulez added on the 2005-09-24 18:04:12 by break break
good looking graphics
rulez added on the 2005-09-24 22:37:26 by anesthetic anesthetic
very very nice!
rulez added on the 2005-09-27 11:15:04 by toxie toxie
nice one, yea.

and i request 1280*1024 resolution, a tft interpolating stuff just doesnt look good. ;)
rulez added on the 2005-09-28 00:18:23 by cp_ cp_
top notch quality stuff with nice design :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-02 20:06:16 by Paralax Paralax
Does anyone know what the name of the soundsystem/re-player is????
added on the 2005-10-08 19:26:42 by Muerto Muerto
Does any one know what the ame of the soundsystem/replayer is ie. farbrauch uses the V2...
rulez added on the 2005-10-08 19:27:59 by Muerto Muerto
muerto, smasholyzer.
added on the 2005-10-08 22:36:12 by pantaloon pantaloon
@pantaloon
I don´t know if youre bullshitting me, but if you don´t, is there any information on this player?? - or even a release VSTi??
added on the 2005-10-09 13:12:51 by Muerto Muerto
amazing! music is fine and art is great. i like it!
rulez added on the 2005-10-09 13:56:04 by decipher decipher
=)
rulez added on the 2005-10-10 00:41:13 by [ProToS] [ProToS]
Muerto: smash wrote this softsynth himself. And unlike FR who released their V2 we did not release it to public and prolly we won't in the future also.
added on the 2005-10-10 01:08:22 by Maali Maali
...i thought it was great :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-10 02:21:28 by gencha gencha
muerto: information: it kicks ass!!!
added on the 2005-10-10 11:40:21 by pantaloon pantaloon
nice.
rulez added on the 2005-10-11 15:00:44 by chavez chavez
@pantaloon
Sorry i have wasted your time klovn
added on the 2005-10-13 15:58:31 by Muerto Muerto
@maali
Ok, sorry to hear that :o) btw, nice demo(s) and super cool music!
added on the 2005-10-13 16:01:14 by Muerto Muerto
I enjoyed the propagating origami.
rulez added on the 2005-10-20 13:15:13 by cork_soaker cork_soaker
excellent!! why didn't i watch this before?
reed, excellent tune.
rulez added on the 2005-10-20 13:43:05 by skrebbel skrebbel
now also its video
added on the 2005-10-23 14:33:01 by Maali Maali
very very fresh!
i just love this nushool-design!
more please!
way bettahr than che guevara
rulez added on the 2005-10-30 18:11:17 by v3nom v3nom
rulez added on the 2005-12-06 18:12:39 by wie8 wie8
good god, that was fantastic... and in 64k ? what heroes... !!
rulez added on the 2006-01-24 02:59:10 by Navis Navis
original , but crashed in the end
excellent !
i loved the visual composition and the isosurfaced-3d-line was a great idea
rulez added on the 2006-08-12 19:53:17 by BarZoule BarZoule
a sign of things to come...
rulez added on the 2006-08-12 22:21:54 by bhead bhead
Kicking demostyle design!
rulez added on the 2006-11-24 21:42:44 by ham ham
Style. Style. Style. this rocks!
rulez added on the 2007-09-01 07:27:15 by skrip skrip
Just noticed the "main loop" of the music was sampled from Bobby Womack's song "Across 110th Street"...
rulez added on the 2007-09-09 16:57:45 by noouch noouch
sweet music
rulez added on the 2007-09-09 17:43:24 by thec thec
yeah, just saw that, when i was looking for the mp3
added on the 2007-09-09 18:20:34 by noouch noouch
Yeah. Kicks my ass too!
rulez added on the 2008-01-10 20:12:33 by electrobrain electrobrain
Style!
rulez added on the 2008-01-10 20:49:06 by yandexx yandexx
3Ds, colors and surfaces,
lines effects, extruded words,
house music,
in only 64Ks!

rulez added on the 2008-04-03 07:04:10 by BITS BITS
Style!
rulez added on the 2008-05-11 18:48:37 by #535 #535
This is an excellent prod to use to introduce people to the scene. KUDOS! <3 <3 We showed it to a group of non-sceners at a scifi con during a presentation about the scene and they were rapt.
rulez added on the 2009-08-31 06:08:48 by metoikos metoikos
Insane!
rulez added on the 2010-03-25 09:07:20 by Optima Optima
Has style!
rulez added on the 2011-09-08 20:07:15 by baah baah
dope music and slick design!
rulez added on the 2011-12-12 06:17:20 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
Kickin' it demostyle!
rulez added on the 2011-12-12 06:32:59 by chromag chromag
nice nice
rulez added on the 2012-01-14 12:39:05 by Frequent Frequent
Visually this is absolutely flawless, over six years old and still looks fantastic. Only problem is that it's a bit "thrown together" feeling design-wise, bunch of neat stuff but all just placed on top of each other. Doesn't really matter though since it all looks so damn good. Reed's track kicks as well of course.
rulez added on the 2012-05-15 00:56:57 by noby noby
ruined by the usual crappy noises from Reed...
sucks added on the 2013-01-31 20:00:52 by zoolum zoolum
Doesn't make me feel anything. Great growing ribbonthing-routine, though!
added on the 2013-01-31 20:18:45 by msqrt msqrt
socool
rulez added on the 2013-02-10 01:35:55 by wullon wullon
gargaj sucks
sucks added on the 2013-02-10 01:44:37 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
This is almost an art movie! Explicitly stating that the production is "demostyle" exposes certain insecurities about its identity, and I feel that undermines its charisma. I liked the shadows and the tune was technically ok.
added on the 2014-03-23 13:04:52 by cce cce
Good one. Where did my thumb go?!
rulez added on the 2014-03-23 13:26:28 by raer raer
many scenes are too overloaded for my taste. that ruins a lot. music is great, nice colors and lovely ribbons! so weak thumbs up.
rulez added on the 2015-03-24 19:42:15 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Re re re cycle.
rulez added on the 2017-11-20 00:48:09 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
Smooth and aged well.
rulez added on the 2018-06-05 16:47:22 by djh0ffman djh0ffman

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