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screenshot added by Gargaj on 2003-12-29 20:45:01
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release date : december 2003
release party : the Ultimate Meeting 2003
compo : pc demo
ranked : 2nd
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popularity : 68%
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added on the 2003-12-29 20:45:01 by Gargaj Gargaj

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interesting style!
a bit cheesy colors but the soundtrack is nice and it has a nice atmosphere.
rulez added on the 2003-12-29 20:46:04 by Gargaj Gargaj
its a joke :)
sucks added on the 2003-12-29 21:00:45 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
No it's not... it's superchilling and it rocks. Beats fly-by demos any day.
rulez added on the 2003-12-29 21:17:07 by dixan dixan
what's with the boring tum-releases? good music again and i like the way it evolves but it's still a "nothing much happens"-prod.
added on the 2003-12-29 21:35:03 by gloom gloom
quite interesting style
rulez added on the 2003-12-29 21:37:09 by hhhhhhh hhhhhhh
a beauty :)
definatly love it, altho the colors were a bit... dutch ;)
added on the 2003-12-29 21:42:16 by kusma kusma
critical error .... heu it seems to be nice
added on the 2003-12-29 22:14:40 by nytrik nytrik
Some sort of "interesting", but I expected a bit more from kolor.
And shiva, please don't fuck the ati-users.
rulez added on the 2003-12-29 22:30:17 by René Madenmann René Madenmann
hihi, what's a rar.exe doing in the datafile? :)
you shouldn't blame the sizelimit if you fill your datafiles with garbage :)
added on the 2003-12-29 22:42:35 by Gargaj Gargaj
sucks added on the 2003-12-29 22:51:07 by neon neon
something i'd never expected from kolor.
rulez added on the 2003-12-29 23:15:35 by abductee abductee
A repetetive and cliched Winamp plugin style demo; the last thing I was expecting from the group that made masterpieces like De Profundis and Relais.
sucks added on the 2003-12-29 23:21:26 by Wade Wade
absolutely to my liking
rulez added on the 2003-12-29 23:28:25 by superplek superplek
just boring.
sucks added on the 2003-12-29 23:50:19 by manx manx
rulez added on the 2003-12-30 00:25:15 by dipswitch dipswitch
i've got the "critical error" too...
added on the 2003-12-30 00:29:49 by sokoban sokoban
Doesn't work here.
added on the 2003-12-30 02:25:47 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
well fucking DUH -> read the infofile.
added on the 2003-12-30 02:45:18 by superplek superplek
Although it claims to work on a gf4 mx, it wouldn't start here. (mx420, winxp, 512mb ram)
added on the 2003-12-30 02:53:19 by Pete Pete
always love raytrayza tunes, and this is not a code jerkoff but a design/feel thing, so rules

AND it runs on a gf2mmx here, so update your drivah shizzle or quit whining ...
rulez added on the 2003-12-30 03:15:09 by Weyland Yutani Weyland Yutani
No ati support ?
added on the 2003-12-30 09:37:09 by nytrik nytrik
This demo brings out the Kolor in my eyes. Perhaps best visual design in a demo to the date.
rulez added on the 2003-12-30 13:23:19 by Visualice Visualice
Will there be a patch for radeons?
added on the 2003-12-30 18:24:05 by asasel asasel
swapped my rad97 to gf3 for two prods from TUM. will never do again.
sucks added on the 2003-12-30 18:53:01 by reptile reptile
First it looked nice but then it became
extremely slow (from time to time it was
a slideshow =[ )...
sucks added on the 2003-12-30 19:05:32 by 0x$$ 0x$$
nice ambient music and stylish gfx.
rulez added on the 2003-12-30 19:09:24 by kimi kardashian kimi kardashian
there will never be a fix for non-nvidia, sorry. maybe we will have a final, but it will be more concerned with content, size & efficiency.
added on the 2003-12-31 11:21:28 by noize noize
noize: fair (especially since i have a spare gf4 for demos like these), but i do wonder what the "excuse" is for limiting the display adapter support in such a horrible way? i didn't really see anything that should've required extremely funky codepaths for different vendors in opengl, or couldn't just have been done using a relatively standard set of d3d features.

that all aside, as i already said earlier, the demo is cool :)
added on the 2003-12-31 11:46:12 by superplek superplek
the graphics+design are excellent and the rest is nice too.
rulez added on the 2003-12-31 11:54:22 by dodke dodke
plek: two things: the demo is build on relais, and there is no excuse for needing everything relais needed once, sorry. this has been stated a "deficit" in the infofile already.

the other thing is, that relais didn't support ati, for which i don not know the reason. i only know that a rather famous german coder claimed to able to port it to ati, and failed, earlier this year :) but i see, this is a steady problem to our pipeline, and i will try to make support for other vendors an option for future releases.
added on the 2003-12-31 12:08:27 by noize noize
noize: ah okay, i didn't read too carefully. good luck on that, would be handy, ati is certainly expanding their ground these days :)
added on the 2003-12-31 13:46:02 by superplek superplek
"there will never be a fix for non-nvidia"

Well, here's a thumb for that attitude.
sucks added on the 2003-12-31 15:10:07 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
noize : an avi would suite me fine .
A_lee_N : kick yourself for me please
added on the 2003-12-31 15:18:44 by nytrik nytrik
hey, i don't watch kolor demos (& other...) at home. do you know why? because i have radeon 9000 card. do you know why? because i don't wanna pay for ge force 4 mx. guys, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease, give us, radeon users, new or final or fixed exe of this demo with radeon cards support!!!!
added on the 2003-12-31 19:06:12 by qaz qaz
fixed exe _version_
added on the 2003-12-31 19:09:51 by qaz qaz
Fucking awesome!!1
rulez added on the 2003-12-31 19:39:43 by kurli kurli
fucking trippy the whole thing. ray is really the psi guy. if you all had watched this with a turned on mind you would have get his message instantly. well, this way you stay slaves of your own expectations.

it was nevertheless a bit sad that the demo stuttered on the compo pc. since i know that the stuttering appears on several other machines i wonder if this was an fx... naa ;)

the neurons are wonderful, the light in the middle is just - awesome. but the stuttering, arr. please fix it.
rulez added on the 2004-01-01 03:34:27 by paniq paniq
a_lee_n(?): i explained the ati-thing above, please read it.

nytrik: we will make a video out of the final version. we have already agreed on what has to be changed, so it won't take long.

paniq: shiva reported the stutter being an issue to the compomachine. but some machines seem to have the same problem. i just had a look at the allocation-behaviour but there is nothing anormal to it. it doesn't even use much memory at all (70mb?)
added on the 2004-01-01 11:31:05 by noize noize
rulez added on the 2004-01-01 12:26:33 by raymon raymon
noize: i'll check when i get home today. the compo pc was equiped with a geforce fx. i dont trust this card.
added on the 2004-01-01 13:45:35 by paniq paniq
hypnotic, idm, beautiful.
rulez added on the 2004-01-01 13:58:51 by florent florent
a really nice piece of art. gotta watch it some more times on a fast pc.
rulez added on the 2004-01-01 15:50:31 by yoda yoda
What Florent said.
rulez added on the 2004-01-01 16:07:45 by jobe jobe
I expected much more content for 8.5mb
added on the 2004-01-01 16:12:01 by Jcl Jcl
Preferred it over FR's crap. However, Shiva said they only coded some effects, and it was assembled and compiled by a gfxman whom even he himself doesn't know.
rulez added on the 2004-01-01 16:15:29 by tomcat tomcat
rulez added on the 2004-01-01 17:23:41 by pan pan
I shouldn't really comment now, as I should wait until I get back to work and the NV card there, but what the heck.

From an artistic standpoint I definitely like it. The light in the middle is just damn beautiful and the whole composition is awesome.

Tho, what was missing IMHO was a kind of climax. Might that I'm a bit oldfashioned in this regard, but the good ole concept "tension arc" wasn't invented for completely no reason and after the really nice build-up this prod doesn't go anywhere, which is a pity.

Same thing with the music, it's good and trippy ambient/IDM, but again it's rather a random collection of patterns than a closed piece of music.

So, pigface for now but maybe a thumb (up) will follow ;)
rulez added on the 2004-01-01 17:28:09 by kb_ kb_
'k, more consistency in my comments(votes next time please, but anyway, doesn't hurt ;)
added on the 2004-01-01 17:28:48 by kb_ kb_
Ok, so they took a break from their usual story-3d-flyby approach, but to me, it didn't really worked out. It leaves the impression of being a rather generic quickly-thrown-together style production which lacks a lot of content. (and dissing the fr tum demo while only having this to offer was a bit... strange)
added on the 2004-01-02 16:27:42 by tomaes tomaes
added on the 2004-01-02 18:44:51 by spengler spengler
got a chance to watch it at home with a duron 1,2ghz 512mb ram gf42ti pc, demo was fluid and wonderful. the soundtrack is great, too. but i guess its just too abstract for the regular simple minded human to become popular. not that our demo is any different ;) in fact i love abstract stuff.
added on the 2004-01-03 05:23:17 by paniq paniq
judging by the comments i'm looking forward to see the video version of this demo (funny though that even r9800 isn't enough to see this demo).
added on the 2004-01-03 09:56:33 by melw melw
Piece of crap
sucks added on the 2004-01-04 02:14:18 by zeebr zeebr
some ati support would have been warmly welcome :]
added on the 2004-01-04 02:29:19 by Zest Zest
errm.... there is an interesting bug over here :) i have overlays, i have the background, but i have no effects. hu? seems like the whole 3d (or that stuff i saw in the screenshot) is missing. without that: booooooring ;) (gf3ti200)
added on the 2004-01-04 11:10:37 by prost prost
not tremendously impressive, but it has a really nice feel to it for me. Plus the effect transitions are so good you don't notice them :)
rulez added on the 2004-01-07 13:14:27 by psonice psonice
Thank you very much for totally ignoring the Ati part of the scene...
sucks added on the 2004-01-09 08:46:27 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
nvidia sux... and so does this demo then! :P
sucks added on the 2004-02-03 18:37:39 by post malone post malone
wheres the avi then?
added on the 2004-02-03 19:20:55 by loaderror loaderror
Please ADD ATI support..
sucks added on the 2004-03-05 12:19:19 by organicdreams organicdreams
Take no offence kolor guys, everyone just wants to be able to watch it.
And I recon you would like to let more ppl see it as well.
Doing nv-only demos, when good half has ati cards is just plaing wrong

fix it plz
added on the 2004-06-02 12:44:23 by Speed Speed
There were some interesting things happening here, but the bright spot in the middle was very distracting in an annoying manner. On the other hand, that was probably the point and I missed it once again.
RELEASE A FINAL ! Halffunctional only GeForce releases sucks...
.....or rework your shitty only nVidia demoengine....
sucks added on the 2004-08-29 21:42:47 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
only geforce releases rules !
rulez added on the 2004-08-29 21:46:25 by skarab skarab
4Kheeper - yes there could be some demogroups that do only S3 DELTACHROME demos :-/
ATI here..
sucks added on the 2004-08-29 22:07:08 by Vulture Vulture
alram! alarm! high pressure of ATI zealots! going into correction mode!

otherwise - as opposed to previous kolor demos - no (good old handmade) animation, no modelling, too little action.
rulez added on the 2005-05-24 18:17:20 by eye eye
Lovely visuals and the music is great.
rulez added on the 2005-07-06 16:47:13 by dairos dairos
sucks added on the 2005-08-13 16:41:24 by RandomGr RandomGr
boring a true.
but, I felt the subtle change.
And, I feel groping that researches interest as for it.
cool effect and cool music.
Therefore, this is good.
rulez added on the 2006-05-01 08:17:29 by got got
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i'm quite happy.
added on the 2006-06-16 01:36:48 by paniq paniq
hmmm, i liked the visuals a little bit, but the music hurts my ears
added on the 2007-04-24 11:50:51 by beton beton
Highly underrated. The best demo in the compo by far.
rulez added on the 2007-08-01 09:39:09 by Navis Navis
very nice concept, well executed. i like it.
rulez added on the 2007-12-13 10:47:05 by arm1n arm1n
quite fascinating O_O
rulez added on the 2007-12-14 22:06:50 by Zest Zest
Simple, but nice.
Tips for running it:

Fullscreen: OFF
Antialiasing: OFF
Textures: PERFECT

then press "Run!", click "OK" on the critical warning message and pray...
rulez added on the 2007-12-18 11:23:01 by raer raer
...oh, and you'll need an Nvidia card >= Geforce 3
added on the 2007-12-18 11:25:19 by raer raer
wierd but nice :P
rulez added on the 2008-05-11 00:42:22 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
rulez added on the 2008-05-19 14:57:46 by ninja ninja
Awesome consistent demo with good fitting music. Sadly it won't run on my current machine :(
rulez added on the 2008-12-03 17:06:58 by [self-ban] [self-ban]
rulez added on the 2009-05-05 13:39:47 by unc unc
doesn't run here, but the video looks really nice.
rulez added on the 2009-05-10 23:06:29 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
NIce, totally dig the style.
rulez added on the 2009-06-15 07:52:56 by sigflup sigflup
back when raytrayzer made this (zero custom code! he just used my tools & engine) i was a bit worried because he made quite ineffcient use of it. watching it now, i am amazed at how well the design stood the test of of time.
added on the 2009-06-16 09:38:55 by shiva shiva
Note to self to watch this when I get home because Navis told me to.
cdc added on the 2010-07-26 14:41:44 by Claw Claw
great recommendation. A must-see demo.
rulez added on the 2010-07-27 02:52:32 by Claw Claw
yep, different but nice.
rulez added on the 2010-07-27 13:18:39 by ɧ4ɾɗվ. ɧ4ɾɗվ.
rulez added on the 2011-12-21 21:33:40 by Frequent Frequent
liked it, especially music
rulez added on the 2012-09-02 18:12:09 by provod provod
underrated. i like the atmosphere very much!
rulez added on the 2012-10-26 11:37:03 by a-move a-move
a beauty. definitely underrated.
rulez added on the 2012-10-26 11:47:01 by v3nom v3nom
where did my thumb go?
rulez added on the 2012-10-26 14:03:56 by kusma kusma
kolor space light
rulez added on the 2013-02-13 03:25:01 by T$ T$
Oh my god... how is it possible this isn't better known? One of the most sophisticated demoscene prods I've seen. This is a demo build around a design and an aesthetic, not the other way around, and that shows.
rulez added on the 2013-03-20 23:57:31 by noby noby
Extremely good looking. Could still be top demos of the year.
rulez added on the 2015-12-05 00:12:28 by MuffinHop MuffinHop
^^ ^
rulez added on the 2015-12-05 21:22:06 by p01 p01
Mm meh
added on the 2016-10-28 11:32:02 by Emod Emod
simple but nice
rulez added on the 2016-12-27 19:55:19 by EviL EviL
man, I actually love this! Fab soundtrack and cool visuals, even if it's so simple. Gives a nice swelling atmosphere. Cool stuff!
rulez added on the 2017-05-04 17:06:19 by ferris ferris
Very very stylish! Excellent visuals, fitting soundtrack. Just great!
rulez added on the 2017-05-04 17:13:51 by StingRay StingRay
i like it
rulez added on the 2019-03-26 15:05:47 by hollowone hollowone
rulez added on the 2019-03-26 15:50:21 by wbcbz7 wbcbz7
forgotten thumb
rulez added on the 2021-04-11 20:24:35 by wullon wullon

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