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added on the 2008-05-05 23:25:07 by magic 
wtf hitler scroller
hmmm... I like the tune by The Wiz at least.
what is happening here
glöp
Fairlight should explain some background about the thematics of this demo.
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Fairlight should explain some background about the thematics of this demo.
Exactly who of them? Whole group? Why?
Trash
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IT JUST HAPPENED THAT I GOT HOLD OF IT AND WAS FORCED TO USE IT SOMEWHERE
now, what a lame ass justification. you don't just get a hitler sprite and are forced to use it in this way and to release the production at a party.
"Look, I just got hold of this baseball bat, and was forced to use it. Oh, your nose is bleeding, you lame nazi asshole? oopsie. Go and play with your republican friends."
but well, this is 30 years ago. Maybe someone took care of it in the meantime.
obvious thumb
Oh gee, in 1989 some guys got silly and fooled around with provocative symbols. Let's get after them ... 30 years later
Epic outreach or hillarious necrodigging? DISCUSS!
Unreadable scroller and somewhat cheap content, thus piggy. Otherwise not that bad for a pre-90s release.
Unreadable scroller and somewhat cheap content, thus piggy. Otherwise not that bad for a pre-90s release.
It could be if this was really isolated event.
Unfortunately, this looks like there is a little more than some silly teens fooling around.
Tony "Strider" Krvaric, is now chairman of the San Diego County Republican Party.
Here's his comment when this demo re-surfaced:
Maybe he forgot what "antifa" stands for.
And both his kids have affiliated to white nationalists.
Not a great look.
Unfortunately, this looks like there is a little more than some silly teens fooling around.
Tony "Strider" Krvaric, is now chairman of the San Diego County Republican Party.
Here's his comment when this demo re-surfaced:
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“We ask San Diego Democrats to join us in rejecting extremists like communists, Marxists, anarchists, Antifa, supremacists, and racists who thrive on division to gain attention for their sick ideas and ideologies.”
Maybe he forgot what "antifa" stands for.
And both his kids have affiliated to white nationalists.
Not a great look.
fairlight is cancelled
unsettling
Not sure why it took so long for people to notice this but whatever, better late than never. Nazi sceners fuck off.
Fuck you Strider!
Nazi scum fuck off!
Nazi scum fuck off!
Demo is from 1989, screenshot is from 2004 and discussion from 2020
nobody likes nazis, but I assume the mindset was different when the prod was released. That's in no way a justification from a modern point of view ("some did it, so it's ok!"), but that's the second product I came across from that time that contain nazi symbols. (compare for example this Men at Work product).
Also I don't know the guy and I feel that it's not right to assume his intentions with that much time passed since the release and without actually ever having talked to him.
I think I'd rather downvote his prod for the nazi crap in it, and move along - like okkie said.
nobody likes nazis, but I assume the mindset was different when the prod was released. That's in no way a justification from a modern point of view ("some did it, so it's ok!"), but that's the second product I came across from that time that contain nazi symbols. (compare for example this Men at Work product).
Also I don't know the guy and I feel that it's not right to assume his intentions with that much time passed since the release and without actually ever having talked to him.
I think I'd rather downvote his prod for the nazi crap in it, and move along - like okkie said.
where is your tolerance and freedom of speach now?
elkmoose, the tolerance is here, firmly in place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance , and the freedom of "speach" is actually upheld more than even necessary as the prod is still here (and most probably will be, and that's a good thing).
Can you please troll less boringly next time?
Can you please troll less boringly next time?
elkmoose: tolerance and freedom of speach does not mean you're not allowed to dislike and thumb down, does it?
groypers out
there are rumours that Strider was shitting his pants when he was five, therefore some are convinced that today he is coprophagous.
balancing thumb up.
balancing thumb up.
Okay. Strider maybe have (so it seems) or have had (so it seems) opinions that would lead me to think, he was an idiot - or at least his opinions seem idiotic if correctly quoted here.
However, cancellation and shouting "NAZI SWINE" to someone who may or may not have been a nazi 30 years ago (and is probably not reading this anyway) because of a bloody 2-frame Hitler-animation (wow, we have a scanner! in 1989! let's scan some bizarre porn which will probably be illegal in 30 years and some nazi photographs! because we're 1x years old and we can), is probably not the way. It's the behavior of the woke social media mob, and honestly, the scene should be WAY better than that. And of course, more difficult to offend.
All of this social media disapproval and cancellation seems to me based on theories the purpose of which is not to understand, but to judge whatever they are used to "analyze" - with analyze in "", since this kind of analysis often seem to focus more on the theory used to analyze than understanding the object of the analysis itself and thus fails its purpose. In other words, it is commonly used as an excuse to single out individuals on the opposing political side, that left or right, it's quite common on both sides, thus promoting tribalism and lack of even trying to understand other people, shouting memes and slogans at one another instead. Which is fun, but not really very constructive when we're dealing with serious matters.
However, cancellation and shouting "NAZI SWINE" to someone who may or may not have been a nazi 30 years ago (and is probably not reading this anyway) because of a bloody 2-frame Hitler-animation (wow, we have a scanner! in 1989! let's scan some bizarre porn which will probably be illegal in 30 years and some nazi photographs! because we're 1x years old and we can), is probably not the way. It's the behavior of the woke social media mob, and honestly, the scene should be WAY better than that. And of course, more difficult to offend.
All of this social media disapproval and cancellation seems to me based on theories the purpose of which is not to understand, but to judge whatever they are used to "analyze" - with analyze in "", since this kind of analysis often seem to focus more on the theory used to analyze than understanding the object of the analysis itself and thus fails its purpose. In other words, it is commonly used as an excuse to single out individuals on the opposing political side, that left or right, it's quite common on both sides, thus promoting tribalism and lack of even trying to understand other people, shouting memes and slogans at one another instead. Which is fun, but not really very constructive when we're dealing with serious matters.
Why are Republicans so easilly associated with Nazis?
Why the fact that this Kravic guy is simply a Republican directly correlates to you with actual Nazism?
Also being critical of Antifa is bad? We see now more openly that they are rioters who deliberately look for fights and trouble (The whole BLM/protests in USA is a shitshow), not peaceful protesters. I mean, come on, they come with masks and weapons, hiding their identities and ready to fight. It's harder for me to not think there is a problem here and not criticize them. Just because the name is Anti-Fascist it makes them good? And if you are critical at them you must be the Fascist by definition? Always the same lame argument..
Why the fact that this Kravic guy is simply a Republican directly correlates to you with actual Nazism?
Also being critical of Antifa is bad? We see now more openly that they are rioters who deliberately look for fights and trouble (The whole BLM/protests in USA is a shitshow), not peaceful protesters. I mean, come on, they come with masks and weapons, hiding their identities and ready to fight. It's harder for me to not think there is a problem here and not criticize them. Just because the name is Anti-Fascist it makes them good? And if you are critical at them you must be the Fascist by definition? Always the same lame argument..
Optimus, you're missing the point. We're not the Antifa here. Just some people finding a old, tasteless prod and thumbing it down.
I think that jumping hitler is probably coming from Cinemaware's Rocket Ranger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6vIHcxGyIA
They probably just added a swastika to make sure everybody recognize the sprite.
Nice code and music. For the rest of the demo i think this is just teenagers' bravado.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6vIHcxGyIA
They probably just added a swastika to make sure everybody recognize the sprite.
Nice code and music. For the rest of the demo i think this is just teenagers' bravado.
v3nom: I am not disagreeing with people disliking this prod btw. Just something from p01's comment made me reply.
jeezus people....yall gone SJW? These were jokes!
Jeez, have any of you ever been to a copyparty in the 80s? 12-15 year olds CRAVING for attention in ANY way possible. Just like all other teenagers. For example I remember seeing a Finnish dude with panties on top of his black jeans, with swaztikas painted on top of the panties. Was he a nazi? I'm pretty sure he wasn't.
So a shitload of productions were designed to provoke spreading (like a virus), they had nothing to do with any real politics or ideologies. Many of them were satires as well, like, "how fucked up can we make this" (this one falls into that camp, which should be completely obvious to anybody who actually saw it, as it doesn't have any kind of propaganda in itself in it).
30 year old stuff made by 14-year olds in the 80's should just be (un)remembered for the embarrassingly bad taste of the time, just like many 80's movies :)
So a shitload of productions were designed to provoke spreading (like a virus), they had nothing to do with any real politics or ideologies. Many of them were satires as well, like, "how fucked up can we make this" (this one falls into that camp, which should be completely obvious to anybody who actually saw it, as it doesn't have any kind of propaganda in itself in it).
30 year old stuff made by 14-year olds in the 80's should just be (un)remembered for the embarrassingly bad taste of the time, just like many 80's movies :)
This wasn't funny in the 80's either. I know, I was there. Take those SJW slurs and stick them somewhere.
(It says in the news article that Strider is 49 years old so when this came out he would have been 18 or 19.)
(It says in the news article that Strider is 49 years old so when this came out he would have been 18 or 19.)
you was there? where? to me it looks like youd get PTSD by just being in proximity of any 80s copyparty
No no no no no no no!
dammit one of its nazi coder can't spell swastika :(
Are you absolutely sure you want to call Exolon a nazi now? If i was Exolon i would finally make this retardness face some consequences.
that was a joke. (obviously)
Too well hidden sarcasm for me this time, sorry about that
I have to point out that I didn't write that theme for that particular demo but for when I, Black Shadow and some others from Fairlight went to London for a computer fair. With that said, I am not that much bothered about this demo. As I see it, this demo was just made to rebel against parents and society, to get attention. One have to level with the fact that Exolon, who made this demo, was only around 16 years old when he did it. With that in mind one must also keep in mind that back then, jokes about the holocaust and the Nazi wasnt that big of a deal. I dont defend the demo but I cant relate to the outrage about it.
It is a bit confusing that even today the creators of this prod do not
seem to distance themselves clearly from their previous work and justify it
with "we were teenagers".
What is so difficult in saying "Yes, it was wrong and we made a mistake
back then"?
Thumb up for the swinging-letter scroll. Two thumbs down for the
attitude.
Releases with disgusting and radical content should be banned from
pouet.
seem to distance themselves clearly from their previous work and justify it
with "we were teenagers".
What is so difficult in saying "Yes, it was wrong and we made a mistake
back then"?
Thumb up for the swinging-letter scroll. Two thumbs down for the
attitude.
Releases with disgusting and radical content should be banned from
pouet.
The son of Strider was banned from US Army because he was convicted to be a member of White supremacist/Nazi group. I guess, emotional legacy must be preserved.
I have already seen nazi contents in demoes but by guys doing this by pure provocation and figuratively. But in this case, I suspect this one to be a declaration of faith (by Strider at least).
"Kill a Commie for Mummy".
I have already seen nazi contents in demoes but by guys doing this by pure provocation and figuratively. But in this case, I suspect this one to be a declaration of faith (by Strider at least).
"Kill a Commie for Mummy".
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