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Wholehearted fuckings to fucking Assembly for organizing this cretin compo.

You mean verified by Claude itself, right? Nicely done.

Cool mini intro, good start!

That's a lot of insults for a single sentence :)

Thumbs up for the nature of the experiment, especially coming from someone like Mr.doob, whose track record speaks for itself. I'm a bit disappointed-ish by the result, though. It feels kind of rough around the edges, considering how much Claude is said to be state of the art.

I've only tried Codex, so I definitely can't judge, but I can relate to the process: how can an LLM “see and hear” the results of what it has generated? Interesting question.

Not enough, though. Thankfully the results speak for themselves too.

For the record...

I decided to do this as a way to deal with jetlag.

A couple of hours after I started I realized Assembly had a AI coding compo and there were only a few hours left before the deadline.

I ended up spending ~8 hours on it.

Claude wrote the nfo file.

I do not understand. Why polute the scene with all that AI stuff.

No time to learn to code?
Well...
if someone does not have time to code or, in real life, for ex. to drink a coffee, let it be drunk virtually. Why not? And thus have a feeling as if that person drunk that coffee himself.

No difference.

As an experiment it's interesting to see what modern agentic coding systems can do pretty much on their own (with minimal nudging) in a relatively short session.

The conclusion for me is, for today, it's probably better to spend those tokens on tooling and the engine/framework like they did in Plastic Sunrise demo - for much more watchable result. In the future, who knows, maybe LLMs/MLMs will develop better taste for coolness factor.

Thumb up goes to Claude for at least trying :-P

Lol fuck AI.

I think this hits the nail on the head. If you just vibecode a demo then your hobby isn't demomaking. Your hobby is talking to a chatbot.

I kinda cringe to be honest when all these attempts (and even outside the demoscene) they put credits Claude like it's anthropomorphised. But then if it's not Claude who really did the code?

I wonder how weird it would be if a non-AI prod, credits would say "Code: Visual Studio C++", "Graphics: GIMP", "Music: ProTracker"

BITS actually did do that, if I recall correctly.

It's fine and fun to list the tools and many people do that. But you would've still made it yourself.

I thought it looked and sounded pretty good. "AI Coding" might be a better name for this compo though.

what uncle-x said

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Lol

More interesting than a lot of c-64 prods with
just a scroller + image setup.

I really like it.

If you can't resist the urge to fuck up the planet, please do it elsewhere. kthxbye

What loaderror said. I think it looks good, and the description sounds like a little fun experiment with the new tool.

Kinda surprised with the hate - it made me log in and give it a thumbs up. I've seen much sloppier prods on Pouet, with the obviously generated content, yet people didn't feel the need to express their love for the planet there.

Really, what Optimus said... I thought long about this today but this finally summarizes the feeling I always had:

"I kinda cringe to be honest when all these attempts (and even outside the demoscene) they put credits Claude like it's anthropomorphised."

It gives me the same chill as "Electric Dreams"... this guy falling for his computer... creepy and absurd at the same time. If the AI made it, the achievement isn't really yours and telling yourself otherwise is a strangely human kind of self-deception. That's the misfire I keep reacting to.

Tell me you’re trolling. Choppy scrolltext and buggy rasters in 2026 “look good”? Most people would be embarassed to release this in 1988.

wow

Nice colors.

"demonstrate" : to display ones skill ...

"paying a billionnaire a week of food to go boasting on X and discored you did nothing and it still took four weeks"

i think i'll be done with the scene within this and two years, you can just blame it on me getting old, i see no skill demonstration in this

hmm and sorry i couldnt resist, i usually only comment on prods i like and leave the rest unspoken but lately it feels like my toilet paper is a.i. powered and its looking up my arse to see if it can learn anything about me.

You're basically paying a billionnair for the licensed right to train THEIR tool with your skill

we no longer get it ... especially on "the" scene where skill has been the ichiban since the dawn of time, i get it if some indie doing a game uses it to render some cinematics which look like the a.i. has done them but better than nothing

we do not understand why anyone would pay them to say i did nothing and then post it as a demo on the biggest scene-board

dont react , its not keeping me awake, its just that i dont seem to get to be amazed much anymore since 2019 ...

As most experienced coders have now realized, AI is a fantastic tool for getting stuff done. But much like a programmer that gets promoted to a tech lead, your real coding skills starts to deteriorate and you need to regularly work without AI and do some real coding to keep your brain up to speed.

I consider the demo scene to be about writing real code. This is not that.

Did i watch the same thing as some people? This looks and especially sounds like crap.

Cool demo according to the demoscene's own inherent logic - although the result does not look (and even less so sound) very good. Kudos to Assembly for organizing one of the most interesting compos in recent years. Fable? Take my thumb in exchange for your expenses. /o\

The funny thing with these compos are, how do you prove you actually did use AI and you didn't do anything yourself? What if someone made a really good demo on their own and submitted it to this compo? But probably it would be a waste of good work to do so.

Like "I promise, I didn't put the effort, everything was done by Claude!"

@Optimus: This will happen, too, or has happened already.
Elephant in the room however is still to use AI as an assistant for some cheap but tedious tasks, such as reformatting, compilation, table generation, tools, converters, ... the same in the gfx and music departments. For the cretins it's always all or nothing, black or white, good vs. evil, billionaires etc.

I don't know how to judge all these productions (if some of them were sneaked (not this one) on regular compos and I didn't know it was AI I would thumb up). I almost feel bad for thumbing down a notch production and keep neutral on all these because I think it's their own special category. Anyway, the scene is dead.

Optimus: I cannot speak for this prod, but my prod is exactly this - a demonstration of what Claude can do pretty much "on it's own". And no, I don't anthropomorphize it. The LLM/coding agent more or less a functionally-intelligent generative engine. You find it interesting what it can do - cool. No, leave it.

I will bite.

This prod would have been a good prod if it had been hand coded. Now, is it really the result of 8 hours of vibecoding? I don't know… see, why would I trust the NFO if I can't even trust the process used?

Of course, my judgement is tainted by awful christian moralism, knowing mrdoob like to hang on X and retweet every basic vibecoding little bitches, I'd say he has some skin to defend since his library is enjoyed by a lot of vibecoders, he of course cannot be against livecoding, it's making him more and more important by the minutes (I'm pretty sure he's happy to give the scene some salt, the same scene that made him by the way, well done, slow clap, what a great move! ahah "who's laughing now")

I still remember when the likes of people like doobidoob told me to learn programming and actually understanding what I was doing instead of relying on libraries, I still remember when I tried to get some help and was welcomed by a lot of youse with a "RTFM". I remember being impressed by you folks, I remember being inspired… ha, the naivety of a young ginger french man.

Can't wait for the next one HA!

ps: I won't give you the pleasure of a thumb down considering that must make you happy

Well, the "AI washing" is already a thing in the big outside. People lying they used AI for some task in order to please the management. That's the idiot world we live in, an there are some cretins among the plebs celebrating it.

This prod would have been laughed out of the room and not mentioned twice by any C64 scene coder or prospective coder if it had been hand coded.

see, I don't even know if the glitching is part of the aesthetic or just llm mistakes and I hate it.