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release date : august 2017
release party : Assembly 2017
compo : combined demo
ranked : 2nd
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popularity : 72%
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alltime top: #406
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Annoying music is annoying but visuals are OK.
added on the 2017-08-06 13:35:26 by StingRay StingRay
Way beyond anything in the scene. Which is why it can't win.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 13:37:38 by Gargaj Gargaj
This prod. makes bingo just more awesome ;)
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 13:39:51 by magic magic
fucking awesome
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 13:40:24 by jasuy jasuy
top quality stuff on the visual side, sadly less than mediocre on the audio side.
Its super TOP. 3D Golden Destop :)
added on the 2017-08-06 13:45:25 by leGend leGend
Poor color, Poor design, Poor Visual....Nice prod on Amiga :))
sucks added on the 2017-08-06 13:48:25 by Rafale06 Rafale06
Should have won ofcoz, brain melting visuals, insane amount of details.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 13:48:36 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
Stylish to the max!
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 13:49:24 by gaspode gaspode
so lovely!!
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 13:52:41 by ferris ferris
Really dig the AR demoreel vibe in this in addition to the exquisite modelling and animation work. The soundtrack didn't hit me a lot though.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 13:54:59 by visy visy
Did not like the sound track ... but the rest is insanely good
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 13:56:41 by nytrik nytrik
Perfect craftsmanship, obviously! If you complain here, your own assets are probably just inferior (or non-existant).

Really enjoyed this. Also great to see Muffler back, again! But the Commodore brand in a PC demo (also in Hold and Modify) feels odd to me. Why not put an NVidia logo instead?
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 13:58:01 by noname noname
Full of energy. Great demo!
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 14:16:43 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
Looks great, and I sorta dig the tune as well, although it's close to crossing the annoying thresold.. but where did those 120MB go?
Forgot thumb
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 14:17:54 by BoogeymanSCX BoogeymanSCX
Whoah! Ace demo - it kind of makes you forget that this is realtime...
I'm not really digging the track, and some of the syncs, but the demo is really solid!
Also: "Muffler diver award"
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 14:19:07 by Puryx Puryx
Great polish, awesome style and execution! So many things to look at! Music was very good too. AGAIN... But I refuse to get used to quality :) BRILLIANT
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 14:19:43 by alkama alkama
Nice direction and rendering as always, but that Commodore logo, wtf?!?! Could have been cool if you had put it somewhere in the less obvious.

And then the music - Fuck it hurt my ears :/
added on the 2017-08-06 14:21:22 by maytz maytz
a class above.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 14:41:22 by iks iks
Awesome work, one of my favorite CNCD/FLT demos. Big thumb up to Destop for typography work, love this shit, this is fucking gold.
Maytz, this is NOT commodore logo, this is commodore inspired logo, some kind of joke by making C (CNCD) and F(Fairlight) combine. Genius
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 14:43:34 by Rork Rork
Sakiaa. Flawless style and visuals, must be my favourite smashtop demo in a long time. Fine soundtrack too. The Commodore logo crowd whoring was quite embarassing though, the only low point in the prod.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 14:43:35 by break break
i thought this was an obvious winner.
the soundtrack (even if I'm not totally into it), the tech and the visuals are top-notch.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 14:45:53 by wullon wullon
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 14:47:37 by ton ton
Looks like it's supposed to be a story, but all the elements are just unrelated. Music is not really my kind of style.
And who do you think you are, Michael Bay? Hold the camera steady dammit. Thumb for all the details, because they make it rewatchable.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 14:52:54 by Nosferatu Nosferatu
love the music, lots of nice visuals and little touches, but it didn't particularly feel like you were trying something new which is a shame. the humour in it is subtle like the text on the awards at the end, but that sort of detail is great. the thing that really gets my thumb though is the direction, especially the doubled dancer pose at the end which works perfectly!
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 15:20:08 by mantratronic mantratronic
wonderful track from muffler if i read right.
pretty much what gargaj said.

expected it to be something awful from all the salty comments here..
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 15:20:38 by 1in10 1in10
Not my fave at all but of course a good demo, track too.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 15:33:25 by Serpent Serpent
This is what mainstream will look like in 2050.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 15:41:57 by LiSU^TRS LiSU^TRS
This is incredible and the tune is baller af! All people complaining are just old and boring I guess?
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 15:43:27 by okkie okkie
Nice demo!
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 15:50:07 by yolk yolk
Nice programming!
added on the 2017-08-06 16:09:54 by jugi jugi
Should have won.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 16:36:02 by fizzer fizzer
What gargaj and okkie said. You can't even compete with this. Well, adapt did, but still. Glad to hear good old jungle in this age, worked super nicely in the demo.
added on the 2017-08-06 16:48:31 by noby noby
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 16:48:40 by noby noby
i dont dig the music, but some of the visuals are really nice. it really could stand on its own without cheap out of place CBM reference though.
added on the 2017-08-06 17:38:58 by groepaz groepaz
lovely energetic jungle music and stylish visuals.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 17:57:36 by kimi kardashian kimi kardashian
I'm getting bored of black and white. But the pacing, typography, and direction are insane, and I'll commend you for the bravado to use amen breaks and the wahwahwah horn.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 17:58:42 by phoenix phoenix
Took me a second watch to get the name. Clever. Awesome demo overall.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 18:05:50 by MuffinHop MuffinHop
In a class of its own – demo of the year for me. The tune is amazing too!
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 18:06:23 by gloom gloom
best cncd demo since ziphead.. so much stuff to see there. :D
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 18:22:26 by post malone post malone
Tons of stuff as always from CNCD vs. Fairlight. But I don't really feel like it all works together; I just lost track at some point, without understanding the whole. Impossible not to thumb up, though.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 18:54:42 by Sesse Sesse
why wouldn't you thumb this up
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 19:15:27 by rutra80 rutra80
A posh, high-end mess, born out of sophisticated tooling & decades of nu-media art experience. Almost annoyingly professional. But pretty cool.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 19:39:33 by tomaes tomaes
Great tunage \o/ , and great fast paced visuals, very stylish, sometimes disconnected though. still more than thumbworthy =)
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 19:41:01 by HellMood HellMood
Polished. As. Fuck.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 20:05:23 by evilpaul evilpaul
It ´s always pleasant to see something fresh on demoscene, a new approach to polished audiovisual style. Fantastic demo, best demo from this year. Blow my socks off...
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 20:11:43 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
i can't understand how it didn't win - but after reading this thread i've got a clue of it i guess..
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 20:28:20 by sm sm
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 20:37:58 by ok3anos ok3anos
Lightyears ahead of the competition! Would like to see a proper color palette remix tho.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 20:50:21 by magellan magellan
Awesome stuff. By far the best music on the compo. But as always, people like lame nerd sounds more. :)
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 21:34:03 by raztaman raztaman
Polished visuals and an enjoyable track but I don't think they fit well together. It does look great though.
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 22:11:56 by cce cce
Can I thumb down all the comments about the music being horrible?
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 22:30:40 by numtek numtek
great scenes and music and link between both, liked those contour lines / hill effect switches a lot, beside the rest
rulez added on the 2017-08-06 23:59:45 by fiveofive fiveofive
I think desktops design style is fucking fanastic, and this was probably some of the best i've ever seen! ...paired with an excellent jungle soundtrack! Thank you guys!! I will watch this all week long.

The only thing that would make this better was perhaps some tighter integrated between the scenes conceptually. It seems to try to jump on and out of macro/micro scale but ends up coming off a bit confusing, yet top notch visually.

Huge thumb pointing skywards!!
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 00:04:34 by quisten quisten
top notch

added on the 2017-08-07 00:09:42 by noby noby
great stuff.
can't shake the feeling the direction and the soundtrack didn't quite fit together though.
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 00:18:41 by psenough psenough
sucks added on the 2017-08-07 00:37:23 by bitl bitl
Really quite excellent on all fronts!
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 00:39:36 by Rob Rob
@maytz If the music is hurting your ears, you can always check out some back catalogue: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2597
added on the 2017-08-07 02:45:29 by yolk yolk
Not similar to that things we all saw from CNCD and FLT in past. But... still good. Thumbs Up.
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 02:49:09 by Volantis Volantis
great! loved the tune too
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 03:07:13 by madMixx madMixx
The soundtrack in the middle and towards the end were good as were most of the visuals, but the rest of it was "OMG why?" :-/ Still a thumb.
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 03:22:48 by Starchaser Starchaser
way ahead of its time, the music, the visuals, the code, that's why it couldn't win... but it's already first place in our hearts. thank you guys for this amazing trip. <3
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 03:29:40 by Defiance Defiance
Got an Ace Combat vibe from from the map effects in the demo, and that's an automatic vote (and a thumb) from me.
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 06:23:14 by Trilkk Trilkk
@yolk: I did. Check the comments - I love it 😀
added on the 2017-08-07 06:26:25 by maytz maytz
Just damn excellent in every way. Although I could do with fewer glitch effects and horns at the end.
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 07:28:42 by Harekiet Harekiet
wow, now THAT was annoying
sucks added on the 2017-08-07 07:43:06 by SiR SiR
I estimate that if I were to create these graphics, I would have to spend at least 10 years modelling and drawing in a dark room. *throws in demoscene towel*
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 08:11:59 by rloaderro rloaderro
i like the music
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 08:35:40 by TomCatAbaddon TomCatAbaddon
Rocks in every department, next time don't be lazy and bring colors in :)
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 08:53:54 by dixan dixan
No way to thumb it down of course, but if I had one wish I'd love to see that dubstep+distortion go already :)
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 10:04:20 by Marq Marq
level up.
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 10:27:32 by teo teo
where i can find soundtrack?
added on the 2017-08-07 12:23:23 by Rork Rork
Proper pacing, proper tune, proper visuals.

I'd love to see that dubstep+distortion go already :)

I don't know what planet you're on but this doesn't even remotely sound like dubstep.
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 12:41:58 by ___ ___
Some interesting effects, but the direction is way too much lolrandom, to the point that i can't tell which effects are supposed to be video decoding artifacts and which ones are.
sucks added on the 2017-08-07 13:05:32 by Mithaldu Mithaldu
i can't tell which effects are supposed to be video decoding artifacts

I have no problem with people watching demos from vidcaps but at the point where it starts to affect your judgement of a demo you've jumped the fucking shark.
added on the 2017-08-07 13:12:33 by noby noby
Super high quality. Just not for me.
added on the 2017-08-07 13:22:53 by Preacher Preacher
I don't know what planet you're on but this doesn't even remotely sound like dubstep.

Should have known there's a style police here :) I wasn't referring to this prod alone, just fed up with these recent FLT earbreakers that a true connoisseur can probably tell apart. Used to like Muffler's tunes back in the day.
added on the 2017-08-07 14:29:00 by Marq Marq
Trying to watch this on youtube, and not knowing where the demo ends and the compression artefacts begin... any chance of a high bitrate capture? :D

Music... is both good and also not my cup of tea. Visuals are stunning. Also, anything with maps gets bonus points. Sadly there's only thumb up or thumb down, but how the fuck could it be anything but up?
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 15:07:11 by psonice psonice

Holy crap, how do you even begin to imagine something like this? I think I need better drugs.
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 16:02:08 by Radiant Radiant
Watching it on bigscreen felt like watching a garbage quality stream. There's probably a top-notch demo buried somewhere and music is nice, but honestly on party I just kept wishing it would end already.
added on the 2017-08-07 16:02:55 by Mystran Mystran
What psonice said about artifacts, plus I can't run it natively on my GTX960, just crashing after the loading screen.
Still, way beyond anything you see nowadays, so thumbs up ofc!
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 16:07:55 by quiller quiller
pretty enjoyable
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 16:54:11 by CONS CONS
surprisingly small amount of random, I'd say
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 17:12:15 by Mazor Mazor
fab demo + fab soundtrack <3
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 19:19:08 by ne7 ne7
Enjoyed this a lot!

Minor annoyance: some visual stuff is going on entirely disconnected from the music (a lot the glitchy distortion stuff).
Also: I unchecked the looping option in the dialog.. and it looped :D
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 22:30:26 by lug00ber lug00ber
Visuals ruled, music ruled too (although I would have liked some more ninjamanmanmamanmanmaman) but human-form models were still unanimated.. :(
rulez added on the 2017-08-07 23:11:51 by hot multimedia hot multimedia
Found it difficult to follow, but the craftsmanship and tons of design elements are unmatched as we've come to expect :). Can't not thumb up.
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 00:08:45 by Alpha C Alpha C
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 00:24:38 by blackpawn blackpawn
the UI scenes remind me a lot of Oblivion love it
added on the 2017-08-08 00:25:23 by blackpawn blackpawn
What Gargaj said.

To the people, who actually run the executable: I experience strange pauses during execution. It looks like some scene loading / precalculation, during which the animation stop at a still frame (it takes from around 0,5-3s depending on the scene). When the scene "loads", it runs on more or less decent FPS.

Windows 10 CU, mobile GTX 1060, nvidia drivers 384.94
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 01:25:55 by argasek argasek
In this feature presentation, post-millennium preset DNB featuring chord theory 101 slightly disconnectedly decide to meet with the very best of what demoskene-oriented visuals can bring us in the world today
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 10:30:05 by Dune Dune
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 13:08:52 by Dascon Dascon
What Gargaj said.
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 14:13:16 by glow glow
Looks and sounds fantastic. I struggled to find things to keep me focused and carry me from start to finish (could be a point, a theme, plot, or whatever, call it direction maybe?) Which is why I voted it #2 instead of #1 at asm. Great stuff regardless.
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 14:33:41 by Byproduct Byproduct
A little bit too much glitch for my taste, but apart from that... wow! So much to see and experience, awesome! I'm not a fan of this style of music usually, but it worked great here.

Some form of progress bar during loading/precalc would be nice, as I at first thought the demo might have crashed at the "made with notch" screen. But then I decided that this would be unlikely for a commercial-grade tool and waited some more. :)
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 15:02:56 by Kylearan Kylearan
well fwiw this demo royally crashed my entire desktop pc upon loading, forcing a hard reset and mildly corrupting my chrome browser installation in the process
added on the 2017-08-08 15:05:34 by noby noby
cooolZ ! nice punchy soundtrack
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 18:15:21 by daeel daeel
Not bad, but a bit chaotic at times. Still rules because auf die Fresse.
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 20:31:02 by raer raer
professionally done, but left me dry

i personally don't like so much pointless lines, rotating dotted circles, bullshit motion graphics around pointless models moving to the pointless beat... so yeah, really well made, but maybe professional skills is not everything... a piggy
added on the 2017-08-08 23:03:09 by tomkh tomkh
Time to break out this again:

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added on the 2017-08-08 23:09:56 by Gargaj Gargaj
Cool dribbble-like UI.
I have no idea why, but this demo reminds me "Killer" by CNCD on Amiga... somehow.
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 23:24:42 by Manwe Manwe
wow, now THAT was annoying

wow, now FINALLY stfu.

What okkie, gargaj, noby and fizzer said. This really should have won. This is a real beauty with very impressive visual quality. About audio I love it but there's no accounting for taste. Only haters thumb that down.
added on the 2017-08-08 23:43:07 by neoman neoman
this is so far ahead of everything else in the scene that can anyone really compete anymore?
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 23:45:26 by msqrt msqrt
This deserves my thumb for sure. I don't think this demo killed the scene though :-)
rulez added on the 2017-08-08 23:49:31 by neoman neoman
not this demo alone and not killed but the discrepancy is real
added on the 2017-08-08 23:52:53 by msqrt msqrt
Gargaj, that graph :D It's a funny/interesting read every time CNCD and/or Fairlight contributes and reviews starts to flow in.
added on the 2017-08-08 23:59:47 by Mazor Mazor
Honestly I just feel most people who don't like this are so inbred with the scene standards they don't even know what's good outside of it anymore. Watch something outside your narrow mindset for once.
added on the 2017-08-09 00:02:08 by noby noby
There're some geometry glitches on AMD GPUs compared to the youtube video, better check those shaders.
added on the 2017-08-09 00:11:59 by xTr1m xTr1m
surely demo could have been different, more crowd-pleasing or in colours :) David Carson had it right; when someone tells you to be better or different, go look back what they've done and see if it is something you can value higher and/or you like. if not, why bother chancing anything since their stance (most likely) differ fundamentally from yours? :)

for better or for worse, always do it for yourself.

also, what Noby said.
added on the 2017-08-09 00:44:30 by Mazor Mazor
I dont really know whats going on here. It seems like this demos is made for winning the combo, but it failed. For one thing the music does not fit at all. And like some1 said before maybe this demo is for assembly 2050. To me its just a big mess. Something that i have no idea of whats going on.
added on the 2017-08-09 05:17:09 by rock rock
damn boois.. soo good! :)
rulez added on the 2017-08-09 09:22:23 by radix radix
for the most part the audio and the visual content is unmatched + greyscale didn't do justice to it either. sry :( piggy tho
added on the 2017-08-09 10:07:34 by nagz nagz
Noby,Gargaj: maybe it's not just narrow-mindedness. Independently, every single effect is pretty cool, I see certain inspirations, fine, it's well made, fine, but together - to me it is just pretty yet random and a bit pointless show off.
added on the 2017-08-09 14:09:14 by tomkh tomkh
The holy grail of TDR appreciaton strikes back with a dazzling amount of detail.

Awesome! <3
rulez added on the 2017-08-09 14:29:08 by rp rp
Obviously, it's good. I like the style a lot, the soundtrack is not something I enjoy. But it's easy to compare this to hold-and-modify (as it shares quite a lot in style), which is much better than this one in my opinion.
rulez added on the 2017-08-09 16:19:07 by DickThunder DickThunder
its too damn well done to not thumb this up and i really like the music too
but it has a lot of that more-of-the-same feeling...
rulez added on the 2017-08-09 17:37:16 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Attention to detail and amount of work this must have taken is truly breathtaking. I can't even begin to imagine how much stuff you had to watch, rewatch and rewatch again to get every little detail in place.

About it being ahead of time demoscene wise - it might be. But I'd be more inclined to say it's a bit off from bulls eye. Overshooting a target too much means loosing most of the viewers, and I guess that's what happened to this prod.

Seeing Yolk back in business is a really great thing, and though the soundtrack is a bit off from my taste, there's no doubt there's a huge amount of work put into that as well. All the little details with glitches, retriggering, reverbs/delays, the general quality of the mixing of the voice parts. Really an amazing amount of work, no doubt about that.

So what I'm getting at, is that while the quality of the prod is off the charts, I'm still a bit undecided about whether I actually love this prod or not. Even after rewatching a couple of times, I'm torn. It might be that it's missing a key ingredient - like the chef creating a five star michellin meal but forgetting the salt in the main course. Only, I can't put my finger on exactly what "salt" would be for this prod :D

But one thing is clear - the thumb goes up!
rulez added on the 2017-08-09 23:12:59 by Punqtured Punqtured
What Punqtured said except the last paragraph.
rulez added on the 2017-08-10 14:17:42 by Virgill Virgill
rulez added on the 2017-08-10 15:16:02 by Premium Premium
It's insane that 1) this didn't win and 2) people are genuinely arguing about whether this is good or not.

I mean, this is not the kind of music I'd normally listen to, but come on, it works wonderfully with the visuals. There's just no pleasing some people.
rulez added on the 2017-08-10 16:14:50 by sagacity sagacity
No, some people just have different tastes, and I seriously find it somewhat appalling how the fan crowd in here is suggesting that if you don't like it, it somehow must be because of you, or even your lack of cultural understanding. It's also interesting how it's always the same kind of aesthetics these discussions erupt around, and it's always kinda the same people epitomizing them and belittling others, but hey, it's clearly everyone else's fault!

That out of the way - Insanely good design as always, and effect wise there's actually a lot to see if you watch closely, and - this is my main concern - look past all the design work. Just Fucking Subjectively I feel that the visual effects and everything around it don't really work as a whole but are often at odds with each other. Perhaps that is what Punqtured meant when he said something is missing.

As for the soundtrack - clearly a matter of taste. If you like Jungle, it's probably fantastic, if you don't mind Jungle too much, it's pretty generic Amen Break+Square Wave DnB to a point that people call it "dubstep". :D Can't argue with the production values tho. Also, that horn. ;)

In the end, the thumb clearly goes up tho.
rulez added on the 2017-08-10 17:01:50 by kb_ kb_
By popular demand, I uploaded the remix here: https://soundcloud.com/crankshaft/muffler-amen-tune-yolk-cncd-remix
added on the 2017-08-10 21:03:22 by yolk yolk
I really love the music :) <3 and nice glitch effects
rulez added on the 2017-08-10 22:04:28 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
c= beam is a breach.
loving the jungle 2.0 track

FLT havin' two prods in 'top of the month' nao. thumb for that!
rulez added on the 2017-08-11 01:43:26 by gentleman gentleman
By popular demand, I uploaded the remix here: https://soundcloud.com/crankshaft/muffler-amen-tune-yolk-cncd-remix

any chance of a 320kbps MP3 (or better) download? ^^
added on the 2017-08-12 00:27:17 by ___ ___
So so.
added on the 2017-08-12 03:37:10 by AntDude AntDude
Disabling Aero under Win7 solved my sever crash issue withy this demo.
added on the 2017-08-12 19:38:38 by ramon ramon
What Gargaj said.
rulez added on the 2017-08-12 19:46:28 by red red
rulez added on the 2017-08-12 19:47:27 by Sander Sander
Without doubt a good demo, and deserves a thumb up. But not a winner IMHO, the visuals gets messy in some situations and the soundtrack suffered of the "heard before" syndrome.
rulez added on the 2017-08-12 21:42:14 by Frequent Frequent
Turns into a slide show @ 4K on 1080gtx :(
Audio sounds like someone playing an air horn over the Frameranger track.
However, visual quality is amazing (the eye/control panel scenes!) enough to make up for bad parts.
rulez added on the 2017-08-13 09:18:24 by shuffle2 shuffle2
Crashed on launch.
added on the 2017-08-13 12:02:31 by Zavie Zavie
It finally run at the third try.

The UX is not the best I'd say: bizarre default options (windowed, looping), no indication of progress at all during a fairly long load... then the demo came but the performance varies from ok to slideshow depending on the scene.

That, the music, the visuals... let's just say this really isn't my cup of tea at all.
added on the 2017-08-13 12:15:05 by Zavie Zavie
stole my heart :)
rulez added on the 2017-08-13 12:15:13 by natalia natalia
on a technical (consumers) note:
when i run this at 1280x720 on my gtx 1060 I get stable 50 fps in almost all scenes but there are annoying freezes just before or after the transition to a new scene.
I know this is probably the engine doing important stuff in the background (compiling shaders on the fly?) but it kind of kills the flow a lot.
As the precalc/loading is already quite long im not sure if putting all that load up front is a way to go but since the scenes themselfes run smooth there must be a way to distribute the workload a little better?
added on the 2017-08-13 12:47:20 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
10 years ago id have been bothered by the comments on this demo, now i find the polarisation an amusing achievement in itself! this demo is clearly not to everybody's taste (and is not intended to be). being middle of the road sucks anyway. :)

that said, personally i try to vote objectively on demos and only thumb down things which are objectively really bad, and i try to normalise my vote. in these days of relatively few actual good demos released, seeing any thumbs down on any decent demo really grates on me.

if you're thumbing down this demo, or any demo which objectively clearly demonstrates quality in terms of audio (even if you dont like it), graphics, design (even if you dont like it), rendering quality, effects.. if you're really saying that this demo, objectively in terms of overall quality of work, really is in the bottom third, or less, of every production released this year.. well, i call bullshit. maybe you're acting as an angry consumer annoyed that they went to the theatre expecting to see a summer blockbuster and wandered into an indie movie by mistake and wants their 10$ back (except this is the scene, there was no 10$ and there's not supposed to be any consumers either..), or maybe you dont know enough to be objective about what you're watching, or maybe you don't have the respect for demos and their creators that i (and many others here) have while voting.

re the stalling issue: it's not because of shader compilation (believe me, you'd be waiting minutes between scenes..) - it's due to the rather large amount of VRAM usage and allocation between scenes, unfortunately.
added on the 2017-08-13 13:35:18 by smash smash
^ Only 4 out of 117 people voted thumbs down so far, around PI percent. :) That's an excellent ratio really and nothing to be upset about.

You made something big with effort, that didn't quite connect with all audiences as expected or anticipated. Happens to everyone who puts out things, be it books, movies or demos.
added on the 2017-08-13 14:28:20 by tomaes tomaes
rulez added on the 2017-08-13 18:41:00 by harism harism
Great shit, cool music, the scenes with the bodies...just awesome !
rulez added on the 2017-08-13 22:27:35 by Kuemmel Kuemmel
Hey yolk, smash, destop and mazor_
a clear thumb up, yeah!
rulez added on the 2017-08-14 07:07:28 by mrpet mrpet
rulez added on the 2017-08-14 10:02:24 by Soundy Soundy
smooth. intense. rulez. (ye the soundtrack is too oldschool for me tbh)
rulez added on the 2017-08-14 11:42:02 by FMS_Cat FMS_Cat
Rulez obviously.. Let's just hope we don't clear the dance floor at evoke when we drop the soundtrack in our live set.
rulez added on the 2017-08-14 14:57:09 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
Immense artistic and technical talent at work here, one of my favourite demos in a long while, style n' skillz.
rulez added on the 2017-08-14 15:24:35 by keito keito
What kb said. Obviously amazing work but I personally felt the design was perhaps a bit like a lot of design for the sake of a lot of design and could have benefitted from some room to breathe, or colours :)
Anyway, great stuff.
rulez added on the 2017-08-14 15:47:22 by dodke dodke
@knoeki The SoundClound track now has Download enabled (had to ask Muffler's permission first!) - https://soundcloud.com/crankshaft/muffler-amen-tune-yolk-cncd-remix
added on the 2017-08-14 21:41:09 by yolk yolk
Muffler diver! Smash hit! boOm!
rulez added on the 2017-08-15 01:36:57 by dv$ dv$
to a point that people call it "dubstep". :D.

These are the same people who call 2 unlimited techno.
added on the 2017-08-15 12:38:09 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
awesome demo is awesome blah blah blah very great blah blah blah ok.

the only thing to remember here:

rulez added on the 2017-08-15 15:05:02 by rez rez
@knoeki The SoundClound track now has Download enabled (had to ask Muffler's permission first!) - https://soundcloud.com/crankshaft/muffler-amen-tune-yolk-cncd-remix

Thank you! <3
added on the 2017-08-15 18:10:40 by ___ ___
I am torn - I kept thinking there would be a story about the character, but I didn't pick up on one. On the other hand, the graphical style and technique are superb! A worthy successor to HAM.
added on the 2017-08-16 03:13:52 by cxw cxw
rulez added on the 2017-08-19 18:37:20 by Flashira Flashira
Solid, with a potential of being rewatched forever. Should have won the compo. All of you MacBook sceners stfu about the youtube compression :)
added on the 2017-08-20 14:50:04 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
Very nice!
rulez added on the 2017-08-20 15:24:24 by Mystra Mystra
Code+gfx vs music doesn't fit well together. Not my taste.
sucks added on the 2017-08-21 00:26:56 by rudi rudi
rulez added on the 2017-08-21 21:39:49 by RufUsul RufUsul
These are the same people who call 2 unlimited techno.

I'm making techno and I am proud!

- No limit, 2 Unlimited (1993)
added on the 2017-08-22 01:44:02 by lug00ber lug00ber
Stable. High Class. Always.
rulez added on the 2017-08-24 15:48:14 by NokoNoko NokoNoko
rulez added on the 2017-08-27 22:09:12 by Claw Claw
Insane visual design and effects.
This release got my motivation going. And I keep wondering what that weird displacement effect is actually doing.

The oblivion reference hits home a bit too close for my taste, though.
rulez added on the 2017-08-29 00:07:09 by pixtur pixtur
What the ... a smäsh demo at Ass. ... what year is this?
rulez added on the 2017-09-01 03:24:26 by Steel Steel
what smash said
sucks added on the 2017-09-02 05:45:32 by rock rock
"Smash of the year"! ;)
rulez added on the 2017-09-03 01:59:01 by mke mke
Definitely high production value, also probably one worth rewatching if only to catch all the small details missed the first time.

The only thing that annoyed me really, was that it kept triggering some other demos in my head, like at some point I was thinking I was watching Variform, then the sound track series of quick beats reminds me completely of another demo soundtrack (forgot the name, it's on one of the Demovibes). It may have been done on purpose, but if that's the case it's not systematic enough to make sense to me, and if not, then well that was just annoying :)
rulez added on the 2017-09-04 07:44:02 by Dbug Dbug
Love datamosh fx & extra sensoric overload. Usual quality ...
Regarding meaning, I play around idea of "Orwellian Dystopia" for this piece..
Btw, why even dare to thumb down stuff you don't like? Only in the case you exactly (and objectively) explain _why_..
rulez added on the 2017-09-08 08:49:03 by zden zden
my worthless opinion is that i super enjoyed this demo on first view, and it rewards repeat viewings as is normal with destop designs. i'm not sure why it didn't win
rulez added on the 2017-09-16 03:28:14 by beefheid beefheid
I believe it suffers from the claim by the soundtrack that you're going to tell a story. 2 Establishing shots, then orbiting 2mins around some anime girl's boobs and ass is less story than most porn movies have. As a "message" that you go to town, make the puppets dance and broadcast that it's fine, but calling that a story is just leading to disappointment and confusion from my point of view. (please re-read it, this is meant to be constructive criticism and I struggled quite some time to post it to avoid offending anyone as it may sound harsh.)

But that's ofc nitpicking, I cannot unsee that CF logo anymore (damn you! :D ), that pyramid city and "holographic" scenes are really interesting, the character is well proportioned, soundtrack and sync are just flawless and the amount and diversity of effects ... no words suffice.
rulez added on the 2017-10-07 11:30:29 by r1g8 r1g8
yeah should have won, no questions about it. "usual quality" standards.
rulez added on the 2017-10-11 10:06:16 by Navis Navis
@smash: I'd agree, if pouet votes were actually objective. Which they aren't. They're purely subjective and reflect the taste/opinion of each individual.

Regarding the demo: I didn't understand it. Otherwise good quality etc etc.
added on the 2017-10-11 13:21:05 by xTr1m xTr1m
In 1995 I saw "Deep" on Amiga and didn't understand what I just experienced and listened to. Just after a couple of re watches I know that this demos (and its remix) is something special and is far above its time. I can say the same about Sokia. I hate the music, but it's so rich in design and visuals and again far above its time!
rulez added on the 2017-10-14 23:38:43 by Bobic Bobic
What piggies says ..
added on the 2017-10-21 11:33:40 by n0com n0com
Too messy for me.
added on the 2018-01-01 22:59:03 by Emod Emod
Does this maybe need more than 3 GB VRAM? Just tested this on my new Coffee Lake i7 8700, 16 GB, 1060 3 GB and the stalling between scenes is noticible for seconds (and loading time is a dog).
added on the 2018-01-16 22:16:01 by noname noname
@noname its the same on my 6gb 1060...
added on the 2018-01-17 00:53:12 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Great soundtrack and nice visuals / camera angles, but way too random for my taste.
added on the 2018-03-11 15:40:30 by dojoe dojoe
fucking awesome
rulez added on the 2018-04-02 05:30:26 by ghandy ghandy
WOW that a big stuff! AMAZING!
added on the 2018-05-07 22:34:18 by yaneq yaneq
Highly polished greyscale glitch stuff with no relevant meaning. Entertainment value is questionable. Sorry, usually I like flt/cncd demos but this one doesn‘t work for me.
added on the 2018-06-15 22:04:14 by arm1n arm1n
Love it. Also love the glenz vector appreciation diagram in the comments above :)
rulez added on the 2019-06-01 23:01:16 by Antiriad_UK Antiriad_UK
fucking ace!
rulez added on the 2019-08-24 23:19:51 by v3nom v3nom
late thumb. love this
rulez added on the 2021-04-05 16:21:45 by prm prm
Very fire. Absolutely loved the visuals.
If I have to complain - I feel the dnb felt too oldschool for the visuals. With the attention focused on break chopping, rather than wubwobs.
rulez added on the 2021-07-19 10:01:59 by wrighter wrighter
For the music !!!
rulez added on the 2021-12-28 14:39:51 by Black Dragon Black Dragon
Работает :) AMD RX 570 ( 22.8.2 )
rulez added on the 2022-08-27 18:51:07 by DIMABOOZ DIMABOOZ
Wow, so cool!
rulez added on the 2023-12-10 00:07:56 by warp warp

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