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Full Turn - new demo platform?

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Someone find out if there's a devkit for this thing ;D: http://vimeo.com/74735651

If so - orgas: Full Turn compo. Make it happen ;).
added on the 2013-10-17 16:34:28 by elfan elfan
I faintly recall seeing a wild entry from ASM with a self-made rotary device that used LEDs. Not the same thing, definitely, but still :)
added on the 2013-10-17 16:39:03 by Preacher Preacher
Clearly time to revisit this concept with an upgraded rotary display then :).
added on the 2013-10-17 16:44:37 by elfan elfan
added on the 2013-10-17 16:48:40 by Preacher Preacher
Are they publicly available and any idea of what one costs? That looks like a ton of fun!
added on the 2013-10-17 16:48:51 by raizor raizor
At first glance it looks like a one-off but if enough people contact this guy who knows what can come out of it. Actually, you wouldn't need a devkit for everyone, just some instructions on how to produce a video stream or a real-time renderer to fit the specs of the platform. Just like with the Media Facade competition at Revision 2013.
added on the 2013-10-17 17:36:30 by elfan elfan
Assuming this thing can be reprogrammed/refitted/whatever with third-party contents it would then be a question of

1. Having other people create contents for it given the specs/requirements of the device (rotation rate, screen dimensions, etc etc)
2. Transfer the contents to someone with access to the Full Turn device
3. Have someone play the contents on the device and do video recordings of it
4. Take the video recordings to the next suitable party location

... or something to that effect ;).
added on the 2013-10-17 17:40:45 by elfan elfan
hmm.. that would be fun as hell to code for. But without a 'dev kit' getting a handle on what the output is going to look like would be pretty tough. I reckon you'd need to have a bit of experience with it before starting anything.

Would swinging a regular monitor round by the power chord work?
added on the 2013-10-17 18:14:41 by psonice psonice
psonice: probably not.

That being said, while it's a cool experiment, I doubt the enjoyment factor of something that definitely needs multiple camera angles is that high at a party.
added on the 2013-10-17 19:24:19 by Gargaj Gargaj
would be great as an installation at a party with loop of prods going over and over again, but a compo showing videos of stuff on this kind of thing would just not be really good.
added on the 2013-10-17 23:12:47 by nosfe nosfe
put the thing in a public place with a screen next to it showing the entry name, run the demos in a loop until the motor burns out or there's a small electrical fire. People will see it and can vote. It doesn't have to be on the big screen :)
added on the 2013-10-17 23:18:06 by psonice psonice
nosfe: IIRC there was an art exhibit at AltParty 2008 in connection to the party proper. I think it would be ideal for such an environment :).
added on the 2013-10-18 14:00:54 by elfan elfan
... man, they're already showing it at an art exhibit. Why not try to get them to make a Full Turn Tour to show it off in other locations too. *cough* AltParty 2014 *cough* ;D.
added on the 2013-10-18 14:03:44 by elfan elfan
put the thing in a public place with a screen next to it showing the entry name, run the demos in a loop until the motor burns out or there's a small electrical fire.

...preferably in plexiglas casing, to avoid drunken fractures.
added on the 2013-10-18 14:05:19 by Gargaj Gargaj
I'm still a bit sceptical abour the thing's nature, obviously it can do volumetric shapes else its would only be distorted cylinders but does it really have that much cylinder voxels without limitations?
I mean if so, this demo hardly shows the capabilities.

A 120Hz display rotating at 10Hz synchronized and stabilized would have an angular resolution of 3 voxels per 90 degrees, and obviously it spins faster. The effects are interesting but I suspect there are some limitations, I'm not sure that can do a stable static highres cube.
So the part displaying a human shape is quite intriguing. I'm not sure how it looks like from other points of view.

Besides, one can wonder if this thing has a pc driving it. The axis is small, I'm wondering if this can convey more than power to the rotating part, and that would mean something like a central mass and a cylinder phase plus brushes or something like that, but adding signal? or they did it analog and only require two more wires. If no signal is transmitted they could have a microcontroller sticked to the screens, generating pixels. If you're hairy you can bypass the refresh logic and generate pixels by random access at a higher frequency.

But seeing the big box this thing sits on top of, another hypothesis comes to mind:
there's a bloody pc spinning with all this inside the magic box, and no cable twisting avoidance is needed, the cables are just along the axis and the "axis" thing is a diversion. At that point you could aswell embed a huge battery powering all this. At that point you could drop the AC step and power your screen and mobo/rasbpi from low DC battery.
a platform? it's a nice gimmick but it can't even project it into something. that'd... mmmh. ;)
added on the 2013-10-18 23:50:13 by yumeji yumeji
Having watched HD, I now lean towards everyting inside the screen, little arm device and battery powering everything. There's plenty of duct tape and all, cute. However I wonder if there's synchronization and pll style tracking of the angular position or not. I've paused at critical moments and at some times this seem to have a decent angular resolution, at other times not at all, and some movements make wonder if they are effects or unwanted drifting of the timings. It might be that they are pulsating the backlight in addition to the pixels.
omg pouet has a quote button popping on hovering the mouse, I'm not sure I like this

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... well, grandpa :-)
added on the 2013-10-19 01:19:23 by JAC! JAC!
Having peeked on youtube comment and thought a bit, I think this thing has security issues that are not easy to solve.


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