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Google+: any good?

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I'll start with this little review which, among other things, pays special attention to the problem of having sex in the workplace while being in a social network, a problem that, I am certain, all of you have encountered at some point in your life.

added on the 2011-07-12 20:37:57 by jazzman jazzman
The Internet is not for everybody.
added on the 2011-07-12 20:46:52 by Gargaj Gargaj
well google+ is boring, nothing happens there. just like fecesbok.
added on the 2011-07-12 21:44:02 by novel novel
Having sex in the workplace while being in a social network? Why in the name of the flying fuck would I check in on facebook while having sex on my desk? Or is it normal to narrate it on twitter these days?

Anyway, the old saying apples plenty here: If it's a service, and you're not paying for it - you're not the customer, you're the product being sold. Google is the world's biggest advertising company, if you're not happy giving all the intimate details of your private life to an advertising company it's not for you.

(I use gmail, but wouldn't touch google+, and I've shut down my facebook account. Still use twitter.)
added on the 2011-07-12 21:52:47 by psonice psonice
pouet needs a "Like" button for posts so I can like psonice's post. Maybe we could have thumbs in the bbs?
added on the 2011-07-12 22:30:49 by ringofyre ringofyre
i got a google+ account yesterday, but haven't used it yet
psonice: i never touched facebook, but i opened a g+ account the other day. I don't think there's any privacy left to loose by joining g+ if you already use gmail.
added on the 2011-07-12 23:06:14 by Hyde Hyde
hyde: not much really private stuff goes through my email, and gmail is pretty good, so it comes out as an ok compromise. If the value you get back from g+ outweighs the loss of privacy / having your details sold in some form, same goes for you :)
added on the 2011-07-12 23:23:58 by psonice psonice
Hyde! I missed you! where are you on Google+? (or Gtalk?)

I am here! :)
added on the 2011-07-12 23:33:33 by rez rez
I can't understand why no one reads the terms of agreement anymore.
have we become that lazy?

any hoot. i also don't understand all the fuzz about facebook and G+.
Everyone that tries to get everyone they know on to either has the same prerehearsed dialouge " it so i can keep contact with you and all my friends" or " its were everyone els is "

Bull*** i say.

Why not use a phone or just send a e-mail to arrange a meeting to meet in person instead. you'll get alot more from that.

So the sumary: none of the named comunity places are any good for keeping contact its just a face for showing of yourself and they own everything you upload. nut that is nothing new.
added on the 2011-07-13 09:11:28 by Zint Zint
hyde+psonice: i would never use hotmail, gmail and such for anything remotely private. i've setup my own http/pop server on my own little home server computer which hasn't failed me yet. although that isn't guaranteed "private" as my isp have access to data flow to/from my IP, of course. but it's better than allowing google to sell my personal personality profile to some ad agency.

also would never use Facebook and such. do not understand what all that is about tbh. just seems like shallow/empty for of human contact to me.
added on the 2011-07-13 09:18:33 by button button
All the secret services, cantral agencies and etc. may have a good laught, having a smoke and a cold glass now, knowing that almost all the ppl are GIVING for FREE all their personal/private information every day.
I like the comparaison: It is not giving a wool anymore, but also the meat.
With no hard feelings here to anyone of you.

Yeah, you may say "but you've already given (almost all) your privacy somwhere". Maybe, but sometimes you have to sign sth, have a contract and etc...
Here, in this example, you are giving it without any need. Just following a short-term trend and a wave.

But it is my opinion.
added on the 2011-07-13 09:56:35 by sim sim
I think people who complain the most about "privacy" on internet are the one who have the less interesting life and dream that some secret organization are watching them.

I totally don't care about Google or Facebook selling my location or birthdate to help display random adverts because that provide me some great tools for free.
added on the 2011-07-13 10:05:01 by rez rez
p01: I'm on Diaspora too, but it's TOTALLY empty :(
added on the 2011-07-13 10:15:02 by rez rez
rez: You don't get those great tools for free: in most cases you give away your rights on the content you upload to them. Of all people, I thought you would be wary of the possible "exploitation" of your creation.

Just saying.
added on the 2011-07-13 10:15:28 by p01 p01
if you're stupid enough to post that you're about to mount a top secret invasion of the usa on facebook then you deserve everything you get.

besides, the picture archive on slengpung is far more incriminating than my facebook account. :)
added on the 2011-07-13 10:22:38 by smash smash
It works basically like this. You accept to get mostly annoying adds or emails in exchange for something killing your time with annoying messages from people your hardly know and mostly have meaningless online relationships with.
I don't say there are also good sides to it, but since I deleted my account for a german facebook clone years ago I haven't looked back (except stalking on that random girl you met now and then ;) ).
I do have a XING account, but that's for work...
added on the 2011-07-13 10:45:39 by raer raer
Privacy for these services is seriously complicated if you really consider it. Some examples:

"The CIA/MI5/spy-agency-of-your-choice is monitoring everything I do on there!!!!1" Well, who gives a fuck, unless you're a (very stupid) terrorist? This is pretty paranoid. Thing is, it's not a problem now really, but what about in 10 years? If the government in your country becomes a fascist dictatorship in that time, they'll have lots of information on who might be worth picking up for questioning. Suddenly a lot of people wish they'd never heard of facebook, and the paranoia turns out to be justified.

"They're selling my profile to advertisers!" Well, of course they are, that's how they pay for the super expensive data centers you're using. Somebody, somewhere has to pay for it, and when you had a choice of paying to access sites or using "free" ones, you picked the ones paid for by the advertisers. And in most cases, what they sell is quite harmless - it doesn't identify you individually, just a numbered account with a list of interests. This helps the advertisers show you something (porn) that you'll hopefully be interested in, and you get to see more porn instead of adverts for barbie dolls. It's actually a good setup. Problem is, sometimes you CAN be identified from this information, and sometimes the database your profile is in gets hacked and stolen, passed to the CIA (see above) or whatever.

Really, the problem is that when you sign up for any of this, you lose control over your information. You can't predict what will happen to it, and who will get hold of it. 99% of the time that's not an issue at all, and really everybody wins. It's that other 1% of the time you have to consider, when the government turns bad, or somebody evil gets hold of data identifying you, your friends and your habits. It's a small risk, and if you don't take some of those you miss out, but if facebook/g+/gmail/whatever doesn't give you much benefit it's probably worth considering.
added on the 2011-07-13 10:57:08 by psonice psonice
One thing I _do_ hope is that the Google+ API isn't as horrible as the Facebook one.
added on the 2011-07-13 12:15:48 by Gargaj Gargaj
psonice: have you seen Brazil?
added on the 2011-07-13 12:16:15 by Gargaj Gargaj
Not from here no, it's over the horizon. What happened there?
added on the 2011-07-13 12:19:46 by psonice psonice
That other 1%.
added on the 2011-07-13 12:22:22 by Gargaj Gargaj


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