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Japan earthquake

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Tokyo is ok, just some Huepfburg feeling with all monitors falling off the tables.
North of Japan is worse due to the water and nuclear plant.
There are some warnings of more quakes in Kanto/Tokyo tonight. Charged my gadgets just in case ;)
added on the 2011-03-12 09:07:48 by mrhill mrhill
@gizmo: Thanks you! Also David (Mr Hill) answered the mail and confirmed he's ok! :)
added on the 2011-03-12 11:50:33 by baah baah
oooops, and Mr Hill just wrote above me!
Keep safe!
added on the 2011-03-12 11:51:31 by baah baah

Please no meltdown @ Fukushima

added on the 2011-03-12 12:13:42 by magic magic
Nuclear meltdown in Fukushima-I has been confirmed officially.
added on the 2011-03-12 12:24:35 by las las
Source please
added on the 2011-03-12 12:48:06 by stijn stijn
go and make a demo about it.
added on the 2011-03-12 12:50:15 by pommak pommak
Pommak: see the near end of the LifeForce demo.......................darn....
added on the 2011-03-12 12:51:50 by magic magic
According to the Japan's government, there is No leak of radioactive from the nuclear plant.

Explosion occurred out side of nuclear plant, so there is no damage to the plant itself.
They are pouring seawater into the plant to cooling down it.
added on the 2011-03-12 13:32:35 by tomohiro tomohiro
The BBC link doesn't confirm a meltdown, but says that the fear of a meltdown is increased. Explosion != meltdown.
added on the 2011-03-12 13:33:02 by kusma kusma
"There is No leak of radioactive from the nuclear plant."
(The Ministry of Truth)
added on the 2011-03-12 13:35:42 by Salinga Salinga
And close to all major Danish news papers is reporting that according to Japanese government the reactor is still intact.
added on the 2011-03-12 13:45:02 by kyber kyber
the denial is a common human behaviour which gives the people the fake impression of regaining control over a situation that is too complex to admit or out of control.

this is a very sad day, not only for japaneese people, but for humanity as a whole.. :(

the cloud is grey, so it's clearly not water vapour.. it's a cloud of death.. :(

added on the 2011-03-12 14:01:56 by nystep nystep
i can imagine that the consequences could be terrible in japan, because unlike ukraine, japan has a very high density of population, so it means much more people could be affected, without talking about water supplies and consequences on agriculture for the long term...
added on the 2011-03-12 14:05:47 by nystep nystep
Some say, the outer hull is destroyed, the reactor core is still intact. AFAIK the outer hull should prevent the release of radioactivity in case of a meltdown. Now that this hull is destroyed if the meltdown appears it will definatly come to a radioactive pollution of large parts of Japan. But I doubt the core is still intact - can it survive such a blast?
added on the 2011-03-12 14:14:39 by Salinga Salinga
pulu: yeah, god forbid that they are actually right and the worst-case scenario didn't happen!
added on the 2011-03-12 14:25:38 by stijn stijn
stijn, true, let's hope so then..
added on the 2011-03-12 14:28:38 by nystep nystep
Salinga: the containment is still intact.

Everyone else: this is not like Chernobyl, ffs. Chernobyl was a shit design that blew up because inserting the control rods to slow the reaction actually increases activity for a few seconds. It also had no containment vessel. The Fukushima 1 plant is not designed like that, modern reactors have much safer control systems and the control rods are in.

The problem now is not stopping the nuclear fission but cooling the reactor core, which is a capsule contained within a giant metal case. Without coolant, pressure in the case will build up and needs venting (which has already been done), and venting will cause some short-lived and relatively harmless radioactive elements to escape.

If the core isn't sufficiently cooled it will melt down, meaning it will melt through the metal containment into the ground below causing environmental damage to the area.

Chernobyl had no containment vessel, it just had a fat plate on top of the core which blew off during the runaway reaction and ejected the contents of the reactor core into the atmosphere. That cannot happen here.

Besides, the number of people killed or injured by the quake and tsunami vastly outweighs that caused by any civilian nuclear disaster, so perhaps the concern is better directed there.
Insectecutor: The Fukushima nuke facilities are actually rather old. In particular, the No. 1 began operations in 1971. I'm sure some upgrading has been done, but probably more to the reactor and control components rather than any containment structures.


Having said that, I know fuck-all about nuke power. My computer is powered by a hamster in a wheel.
According to reports from nearby hospitals, they're now saying up to 190 people have been exposed to radiation from the power plant explosion.

i love nuclear energy, it's cheap and efficient. sure, there are risks but there are risks chopping cheese with a sharp knife. you could accidentally fall on the knife and cut your eyeball in half. but nobody suggests banning sharp cheese knives...do they!

stop demonizing nuclear power. you either live with it and enjoy the ability to switch on your computer or you agree with the Greenies and vote for "green energy" which could never supply demand and would result in astronomical energy prices.
added on the 2011-03-12 17:57:51 by button button
nice trolling right there


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