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Youtube or Vimeo?

category: general [glöplog]
 
Just a suggestion - why not use vimeo.com instead of youtube for demo stuff? From my (admittedly fairly brief with both) experience, vimeo:
- has a better designed site
- has higher quality video
- has an option for HD video streaming
- is not full of retards
- lacks cat playing piano videos

Any problems with it though?
added on the 2008-07-22 16:21:58 by psonice psonice
Yes, apparently uploading more than a couple of videos with one account is a no-no. Or so I've heard. Also, not as reliable as youtube. Also, demoscene.tv rules (not hd though).
added on the 2008-07-22 16:26:39 by tomaes tomaes
There is also http://capped.tv/
added on the 2008-07-22 16:29:23 by keops keops
added on the 2008-07-22 16:33:27 by bigcheese bigcheese
tomaes: I think the limit is that you can only upload up to 500mb per week, so it could be a problem if you have several HD captures to do at once.

keops: yeah. That one too, but a lot of people still seem to use youtube, plus there's all the 'non-demo' stuff we do (like I put captures of my various experiments up on there).

Bigcheese: haha, they stopped the video just as the cat bit :D Anyway, my meaning was that there's "less" of such videos compared to youtube. At least less emphasis on them.
added on the 2008-07-22 16:39:26 by psonice psonice
i don't see the point. we've capped and demoscene.tv for quality, so all youtube can give us as a bonus is audience - for which it undeniably is the best place.
added on the 2008-07-22 16:40:51 by skrebbel skrebbel
Ok, so:

Capped/dtv for general use.
Youtube for 'bigger audience'.
Vimeo for HD.

Oh, two more things vimeo is good for: you can download the original video file (so long as you sign in anyway), which is great (does capped.tv provide that? if not, it should :) and you can also mark videos as private (with a password, great for sharing stuff with your group).
added on the 2008-07-22 16:52:11 by psonice psonice
there are already demos on vimeo. however, "in the mix". who's that matt bentley anyway? http://vimeo.com/1337237. at least the stuff is properly credited :-)
added on the 2008-07-22 17:03:25 by unlock unlock
unlock: dunno, but i like it. Not sure it works all that well for me as a video, but it's great to bring back memories of a whole bunch of good demos at once :)
added on the 2008-07-22 18:01:52 by psonice psonice
*considers putting 720p HD support in Capped.TV* Hmmmm... ;)
added on the 2008-07-22 18:19:44 by micksam7 micksam7
vimeo of course

http://vimeo.com/videos/search:demoscene
added on the 2008-07-22 20:50:45 by iq iq
I like vimeo a lot. I already use it to upload hd versions for our demos and embed them to our site. What's also nice is that you can download the originally uploaded file, not the re-encoded crap.

Youtube is not even worth the discussion.


added on the 2008-07-22 21:17:13 by pixtur pixtur
Pixtur: well, it kinda is worth the discussion, because of the simple fact of exposure. People watch random stuff on YouTube, while they "seek it out" on Vimeo. Also, there are a lot of places that has YouTube support embedded, but lack "Flash Video" support.

That said, the -quality- of the encoded videos are on two different planets :)
added on the 2008-07-23 00:47:13 by gloom gloom
I thought demoscene.tv had a pretty decent HD mode?
http://vimeo.com/1337237

wat
added on the 2008-07-23 06:50:20 by LiraNuna LiraNuna
damn that matt bentley guy is a bad musician!
added on the 2008-07-23 07:36:34 by skrebbel skrebbel
somewhat related to this, I have a question: why exactly does it take Demoscene.tv so long to add new demos? No Solskogen stuff, no Euskal stuff, while Capped.tv already added Size Antimatters.
added on the 2008-07-28 17:31:22 by Axel Axel
Axel - I think demoscene.tv requires a admin to vertify uploaded content, while capped pretty much puts uploaded demos online immediately. Beyond that, both sites kinda need someone to upload the content first. ;P
added on the 2008-07-28 17:49:58 by micksam7 micksam7
blip.tv lets you upload your own .flv and keeps it untouched, for those patient enough to play with encoding settings
pssst - capped.tv lets you do that too, except with mp4/h.264 files. ;)
added on the 2008-07-28 22:40:59 by micksam7 micksam7
[and yes, recent versions of flash -do- support mp4, in case you didn't know.. capped also makes plain flvs as well for fallback on older players, after it pesters you about updating]
added on the 2008-07-28 22:42:32 by micksam7 micksam7

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