software development as a career
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i also dont hate what i need to do at work.
if you never had a job as a serious coder you should be happy about every job you get, as long as you can learn new things while doing it ;)
money is sth you can advance in the more you know ;)
there are always jobs available, if you have the fitting knowledge ;)
languages should be what you are common with ;) (if you just talk in internet-1337-3ngl4sh, you wont get any far if the rest of the company talks in english only! ;) )
if languages is about coding-languages: learn some, get used to them, only apply to jobs you are sure you know the languages syntax and usage!
about recommendation: if you are used to Self-mortification, do it ;)
-> there are tons of other jobs, which are way more easy and not that demanding, so if you really want to make your way as a coder, you should settle for lifeloss and the most best thing to bring would be: having fun at/while coding! :p
my 2k cents! ;)
if you never had a job as a serious coder you should be happy about every job you get, as long as you can learn new things while doing it ;)
money is sth you can advance in the more you know ;)
there are always jobs available, if you have the fitting knowledge ;)
languages should be what you are common with ;) (if you just talk in internet-1337-3ngl4sh, you wont get any far if the rest of the company talks in english only! ;) )
if languages is about coding-languages: learn some, get used to them, only apply to jobs you are sure you know the languages syntax and usage!
about recommendation: if you are used to Self-mortification, do it ;)
-> there are tons of other jobs, which are way more easy and not that demanding, so if you really want to make your way as a coder, you should settle for lifeloss and the most best thing to bring would be: having fun at/while coding! :p
my 2k cents! ;)
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have yet to see, say, a construction worker or sheet metal welder, who's into demo coding
I know a brick mason. I don't like spouting people's private details so I won't tell who, but he may come forward himself here if he wants to...
yzi: i know many ppl not being coders in their jobs. or maybe i should say "i knew"...most of em got some offer at some point of time they couldnt ignore ;)
some ppl even retired from being a coder for money ;) (they do sth diff now, just so they can go on with their hobby, which is ofcoz the demoscene, making demos!)
payment is really pretty ok, in northAmerica being a coder means you are the richest, except of managers/brokers! ;) but how long are you able to run in that speed? they just suck you out until you HAVE to leave ;) until burnout that is. or "too old" ;) :(
some ppl even retired from being a coder for money ;) (they do sth diff now, just so they can go on with their hobby, which is ofcoz the demoscene, making demos!)
payment is really pretty ok, in northAmerica being a coder means you are the richest, except of managers/brokers! ;) but how long are you able to run in that speed? they just suck you out until you HAVE to leave ;) until burnout that is. or "too old" ;) :(
to hook up on one comment here:
(real) software development is ALWAYS != programming
I do a lot of programming, but it's not what my job is made of.
and, luckily it is like that, although I LOVE programming (obviously).
so, if you're only interested in sheer programming you better leave it as a hobby of yours.
(real) software development is ALWAYS != programming
I do a lot of programming, but it's not what my job is made of.
and, luckily it is like that, although I LOVE programming (obviously).
so, if you're only interested in sheer programming you better leave it as a hobby of yours.
Thanks for your advice :) I'll probably rethink the "developing" part. But I'm pretty sure I'm going to something computer related.
agree with @styx^hcr
just like having sex with your girlfriend (hobby?) is totally different than making porn (job)
just like having sex with your girlfriend (hobby?) is totally different than making porn (job)
I was initially quite put off by all the people warning me that I would start hating programming if I did it for a living. That was a bit of a shame, because now that I am a professional programmer (since six years or so) I still love it very much; I go to my job with a smile on my face and leave the same way, and then head home to hack away on private stuff. I get paid for devoting my time to my greatest hobby and interest.
highly depends what you do, where you are, which projects you are working on and such. there is really dream jobs in IT (highly paid, learn a lot, work with passion) and crap stuff that you would want to recommend to your worse enemy
Know the digfference:
Software development = Architecture (read: lots of great stuff, unfortunately customers and commitees prefer the ugly ones)
Programming = Assembly line work (others come up with the ideas and will blame you if they fail)
Coding = *Art (me-teh-script-kiddy-fArt kin c0d3 yeah)
Not all all to be confused with:
Democoding = State of Art ;)
Software development = Architecture (read: lots of great stuff, unfortunately customers and commitees prefer the ugly ones)
Programming = Assembly line work (others come up with the ideas and will blame you if they fail)
Coding = *Art (me-teh-script-kiddy-fArt kin c0d3 yeah)
Not all all to be confused with:
Democoding = State of Art ;)
solving interesting problems creatively is always fun.
getting underpaid and overworked is never fun.
both are common symptoms for programming jobs.
getting underpaid and overworked is never fun.
both are common symptoms for programming jobs.
For pretty much obvious reasons I won't argue about the "getting underpaid" part but I think that in every creative job there are times when:
* A) you sit on your lazy ass, browsing through pouet whole day as there's some process going on behind the curtains that you just need to monitor (eg. tests that need 3 hours to finish).
* B) you work with your usual efficiency (50-75%, depending on person, motivation, project, usw), not really pushing the limits but making sure the job gets finished on time, boosting the spped or slowing down as needed.
* C) you really push it - 150% efficiency, seven cups coffee per day (I'm thinking here about meeting the deadlines that are just round the corner, project crashing two days before release <I hate these moments>). Clearly, this can't last longer than a week or two, or otherwise you're going to become a motivational pile of ash in a month or two.
If you can't handle that, I guess it's better if the person who asked here for advice had better seek another idea for making a living.
* A) you sit on your lazy ass, browsing through pouet whole day as there's some process going on behind the curtains that you just need to monitor (eg. tests that need 3 hours to finish).
* B) you work with your usual efficiency (50-75%, depending on person, motivation, project, usw), not really pushing the limits but making sure the job gets finished on time, boosting the spped or slowing down as needed.
* C) you really push it - 150% efficiency, seven cups coffee per day (I'm thinking here about meeting the deadlines that are just round the corner, project crashing two days before release <I hate these moments>). Clearly, this can't last longer than a week or two, or otherwise you're going to become a motivational pile of ash in a month or two.
If you can't handle that, I guess it's better if the person who asked here for advice had better seek another idea for making a living.
lol I'm only 14 but I guess I can handle stress for at least a few weeks before going insane :P I think I have some time to go before I really start worrying about my job but I like to think ahead
but chronic overwork is very painful. I know that for sure :(
Zorke, it's *because* you're only 14 you can handle stress forever. Real life has its share of endless problems.
SUKKZ!
Ahah! nice joke ;)