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i also dont hate what i need to do at work.

if you never had a job as a serious coder you should be happy about every job you get, as long as you can learn new things while doing it ;)

money is sth you can advance in the more you know ;)

there are always jobs available, if you have the fitting knowledge ;)

languages should be what you are common with ;) (if you just talk in internet-1337-3ngl4sh, you wont get any far if the rest of the company talks in english only! ;) )
if languages is about coding-languages: learn some, get used to them, only apply to jobs you are sure you know the languages syntax and usage!

about recommendation: if you are used to Self-mortification, do it ;)
-> there are tons of other jobs, which are way more easy and not that demanding, so if you really want to make your way as a coder, you should settle for lifeloss and the most best thing to bring would be: having fun at/while coding! :p

my 2k cents! ;)
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have yet to see, say, a construction worker or sheet metal welder, who's into demo coding


I know a brick mason. I don't like spouting people's private details so I won't tell who, but he may come forward himself here if he wants to...
added on the 2012-08-08 09:25:15 by Preacher Preacher
yzi: i know many ppl not being coders in their jobs. or maybe i should say "i knew"...most of em got some offer at some point of time they couldnt ignore ;)

some ppl even retired from being a coder for money ;) (they do sth diff now, just so they can go on with their hobby, which is ofcoz the demoscene, making demos!)

payment is really pretty ok, in northAmerica being a coder means you are the richest, except of managers/brokers! ;) but how long are you able to run in that speed? they just suck you out until you HAVE to leave ;) until burnout that is. or "too old" ;) :(
to hook up on one comment here:
(real) software development is ALWAYS != programming
I do a lot of programming, but it's not what my job is made of.
and, luckily it is like that, although I LOVE programming (obviously).
so, if you're only interested in sheer programming you better leave it as a hobby of yours.
added on the 2012-08-08 11:28:31 by styx^hcr styx^hcr
Thanks for your advice :) I'll probably rethink the "developing" part. But I'm pretty sure I'm going to something computer related.
added on the 2012-08-08 21:14:40 by zorke zorke
agree with @styx^hcr

just like having sex with your girlfriend (hobby?) is totally different than making porn (job)
added on the 2012-08-08 21:23:16 by Tigrou Tigrou
I was initially quite put off by all the people warning me that I would start hating programming if I did it for a living. That was a bit of a shame, because now that I am a professional programmer (since six years or so) I still love it very much; I go to my job with a smile on my face and leave the same way, and then head home to hack away on private stuff. I get paid for devoting my time to my greatest hobby and interest.
added on the 2012-08-08 21:32:13 by Radiant Radiant
highly depends what you do, where you are, which projects you are working on and such. there is really dream jobs in IT (highly paid, learn a lot, work with passion) and crap stuff that you would want to recommend to your worse enemy
added on the 2012-08-08 21:39:22 by Tigrou Tigrou
Know the digfference:

Software development = Architecture (read: lots of great stuff, unfortunately customers and commitees prefer the ugly ones)

Programming = Assembly line work (others come up with the ideas and will blame you if they fail)

Coding = *Art (me-teh-script-kiddy-fArt kin c0d3 yeah)

Not all all to be confused with:

Democoding = State of Art ;)
added on the 2012-08-09 02:19:50 by T$ T$
solving interesting problems creatively is always fun.
getting underpaid and overworked is never fun.

both are common symptoms for programming jobs.
added on the 2012-08-09 02:27:55 by Gargaj Gargaj
For pretty much obvious reasons I won't argue about the "getting underpaid" part but I think that in every creative job there are times when:

* A) you sit on your lazy ass, browsing through pouet whole day as there's some process going on behind the curtains that you just need to monitor (eg. tests that need 3 hours to finish).
* B) you work with your usual efficiency (50-75%, depending on person, motivation, project, usw), not really pushing the limits but making sure the job gets finished on time, boosting the spped or slowing down as needed.
* C) you really push it - 150% efficiency, seven cups coffee per day (I'm thinking here about meeting the deadlines that are just round the corner, project crashing two days before release <I hate these moments>). Clearly, this can't last longer than a week or two, or otherwise you're going to become a motivational pile of ash in a month or two.

If you can't handle that, I guess it's better if the person who asked here for advice had better seek another idea for making a living.
added on the 2012-08-09 10:06:05 by kbi kbi
lol I'm only 14 but I guess I can handle stress for at least a few weeks before going insane :P I think I have some time to go before I really start worrying about my job but I like to think ahead
added on the 2012-08-09 10:15:57 by zorke zorke
but chronic overwork is very painful. I know that for sure :(
added on the 2012-08-09 10:16:25 by zorke zorke
Zorke, it's *because* you're only 14 you can handle stress forever. Real life has its share of endless problems.
SUKKZ!
Ahah! nice joke ;)
added on the 2012-08-26 03:10:18 by skarab skarab

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