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ryg did buzzmachines? O_o

joachim is also a scener (met him at se this year..)

not to mention the 873254835 introtool softsynths that were compiled as buzzmachines for using buzz to do the songs.. i can think atleast half a dozen sceners who used buzz for that, im sure quite many more exist.

most of those synths that i mention didnt get "officially released" "yet".. and prolly never will..

and the few i touched weren't very spectacular.

well, compared to other buzzmachine synths, the intro softsynths are always kinda overall lower quality.. more coded just to get some sound going, not necessarily the best sound ever, more something to simply get the job done... kinda normal that the coders of these lower quality ones don't feel the need to release their synths to the world, specially when there are other better alternatives around which their synth can't really compete with.. would only mostly be useful if they also released the source code so that ppl could use them for more intros.. but then again most "real" intro coders tend to enjoy reinventing the wheel to know how it's done, so they end up doing synths of their own anyways...

Buzz is by far the worst piece of unstable shit I've ever had the misfortune to get used to, and I still cannot stop cursing the day I said to myself "I gotta keep working in this thing".

I love the machine workflow, got used to the goddamn st3-esque interface, now SOMEBODY GET ME A GODDAMN STABLE VERSION/CLONE. I swear, you sometimes have to move the sun to get it to load a tune you made the night before.

i feel your pain :)
i had to acquire secret ninja voodoo technics that comprise of opening and closing other applications before opening buzz to regain part of my sanity. namely soulseek seems to help. dont ask me why, but it does.

my solution to the problem was that i stopped using buzz

i tried that. but then i missed the neptune and the lepdoterapist, so i had to go back...

if buzz wouldn't have any bugs, i'd stop using it RIGHT NOW

Isn't the problem with buzz coming from very very poor quality control on the machines themselves, rather than buzz itself?

the problem is coming from very very poor quality of the users.

nicolas: actually i prefer all things to be released, im glad that quality control is low. i still discover the good stable machines anyways, and there is alot more influx of diferent ideas and "features" coming from the less quality machines. if one finds a machine to be buggy or lacking a certain essential feature, one can just email the developer. when no reply is returned, one moves the buzzmachine to the hidden machines section of the index...

to answer the question directly, no it's not. buzz is unstable as fuck, the quantity and quality of the buzzmachines kicks ass.

but how do you know that it's buzz faults that it is crashing rather than the random machine's fault?

when you really use it, you can tell which machines are stable and which ones are not. further more, you start knowing what actions on what machines makes it more likely to crash and such other details.
biggest problem gets to be, not avoiding it to crash, but restarting it after it crashed, some kind of crashes makes it required to reboot the machine.. which is simply unnaceptable for live performances.

still.. buzzle is getting developed.. maybe in a couple years i'll be able to load my .bmx's on it and not have it randomly crash every half an hour. :)

buzz is THE ultimate tool for tracker addicts for whom renoise isn't enough, but who can't get comfortable with reason, cubase & co.

i am using buzz since 2001-2002 and i really LOVE it. sure, sometimes i really hate it when it crashes, but still this is the most logical music-making program for me and gives one really many possibilities. most of my non-scene producer colleagues are between "how the hell can he master that crap" and "why the hell does he use that crap" when they see me using this unstable piece of shit, but i love it. it is so refreshing to tweak around with synths after having to screw around with samples for years, but still being able to program the synths tracker-style. <3

1) how the hell can renoise not be enough?
2) how the hell does adding 29750989 unstable substractive synthesizers with ADSR sliders solve that?

honestly, the only good thing i've ever managed to find in buzz is the sequence editor.

Regarding crashes, I've only played a bit with Buzz so far, and it happened twice that I was no longer able to start it as it kept crashing right after the logo was displayed. The BuzzFix kit, however, has managed to make Buzz work again both times. I've noticed the installation .exe provided at the Buzz website is actually a WinRAR self extracting file and so I've extracted the BuzzFix kit so I can easily call it every time such a crash happens.

I like buzz for the same reasons that other's have specified. Its also amazingly stable on my laptop (ok, it crashes every time i exit it, but never before that).

Too bad that sometimes it freaks out and outputs hellishly loud noise which the bloody burst protection doesn't react to, at all, for some odd reason.

Uncle-X: Just call it IDM -> problem solved!
(!drumfill)

break, that only works if you play live with buzz. else it's not even part of the track you're working on

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unclex: i sampled those bursts a couple times, they're cool material for noise scaping :) "who cares idiot" soundtrack was such kind of burst :) sometimes its hard to fill all frequencies loud enough to have it really raw and loud without clipping, those bursts rock in that aspect ^^ regurgitating them live through immense filter tweaking is good fun too ^^

ps: so you're making art out of my suffering? thanks a lot, mate...

;-)

Start buzz. Close it wthout actually loading or touching anything. Typically, Buzz will crash upon exit.

Sure, some of the machines are a disaster waiting to happen, but does this simple action not tell you that the program is not without it's critical flaws?

Never happened here...

the fact that it behavesmore or less erratically on diferent hardware/os is also quite explicit of its lack of stability :)

i had a mate who claimed the only stable version of buzz he ever had was running it on linux through wine. you loose a few obvious features though.. but i would defnitly try to get it working if i had any linux machine around.