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added on the 2009-03-01 17:51:54 by Optimus Optimus
Fuck your Sister moron
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 17:53:21 by aquaman aquaman
i actually kinda like the concept of shitty demos that just crash in the middle instead of going further.
added on the 2009-03-01 17:55:11 by Gargaj Gargaj
Whahahahaha! :D

(crashed here too)
(oh, and it sucks)
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 17:58:02 by Alpha C Alpha C
on second thought, crashing didnt help either.
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 17:58:44 by Gargaj Gargaj
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sucks added on the 2009-03-01 18:00:22 by Maali Maali
go optimus go
Hello. I just observed the real reason why I suck at democoding. Or why I do not exactly suck at coding itself but in productivity, in results, in creating a good solid demo and in time. It is something I have noticed several times in the past but bypassed it for some reasons, never gave it enough attention. But now I had greater awareness of it and I was shocked.

I simply sit down to code something and it takes me 4+ times more to finish it than what it should originally take. Something that would take 1-2 hours and I could simply do more stuff or even do different real life stuff in between, it takes me a whole evening or day. Suddenly I realize how awfully time passes. I sit there thinking of the next line of code to write and I may loose focus or daydream or play with something on my fingers for several minutes. And then I wake up and realize it and try to focus but my mind goes elsewhere.

To not misunderstand me, I don't want necessarily with this thread to focus on disorders (although it would be interesting), in the past I never thought I would fit the profile of an ADD person as I know it (especially not ADHD, I am the silent guy) but now I have noticed that something really bad is playing and I'd be just wondering whether there are some techniques to keep focused on the democoding and not snap out of it or if someone else experiences something similar and how he gets along with it.

However, a possibility is that I am simply absent minded in parts of coding where I don't have the best interest. I've been noticing at which coding sessions I am loosing it and at which I am really focused and produce a lot (this happens once in ten times). I may be coding a new effect (I tried the freedir tunnel we were discussing) but at some trivial parts with not much interest or not something new yet a bit tricky to think and needs brain energy I may be absent minded and taking 3 hours for trivial stuff of half an hour and not realizing it. The rare cases where I am really feeling productive are when I am experimenting with some crazy idea (usually on optimization) I just thought and really want to try. But when I just have to connect parts of demos or code trivial stuff I spent a lot of time. Another side I perform ok is when I have to copy-paste code (trivial but I don't have to put mind in it, just automation), ok lame. And also usually I keep daydreaming about a demo easilly but it's hard for me to sit down and work on it. When I daydream my mind works, when I sit down to code I flat out.

Also, there is always the same feeling. Maybe I used to oppress myself to code demos even when I didn't felt ok with it. I feel some pressure inside me, almost like psychosomatic, something telling me "Oh, I am bored to just sit here and code". At this part, of course, as expected, I get a lot of those absent minded where I sit down to code and everything goes wrong, my attention shifts to other things and I loose it. Ok, maybe this is just a way for myself to say "Knock it off, I don't want to code a demo right now. Give me something else to focus on!". But what?

Well, I do this thing too, what kept my mother worrying. But even then I just feel I don't get enough of my potential. Sometimes, I also wonder whether music or no music or other conditions would be more suitable or distract me but I haven't experimented really. I think the matter is also a matter of will, like I don't really want to code at specific time but I want to finish the demo in time.

I don't think it works for me. Usually I don't even consider trying. Once I was watching the Xardavellas show (with the paranormal shit) while trying to code something at the same time (hmm,. crazy, haven't done this before) and I couldn't focus at all (although I was trying to understand what they were saying on the show, not just as background noise)

Didn't considered that much before. But yes I remember once that some electronic music without lyrics worked very well, while some greek hip hop really killed my focus :P

However, I should still investigate which parts of coding gets me in the mood and which processes slows me down.

Cool, it sometimes works.

In some other times I am too lazy or feel oppressed that I won't even start, I won't even touch the compiler for a second for days. But if I touch it then magic happens. Although I avoid it. Maybe I am just lazy or don't really want to code a demo. Is there a cure?

Good, but the main problem happens when I am offline. We are not talking about defocus because of Pouet here.

Yes actually. We are not talking about the times I write on pouet where you'd think I should be doing something else. I am only talking about the specific time periods I sit down to code, I haven't opened any browser or anything, and my mind gets distracted, I simple have a bland look, I am absent minded for a long time. I don't mean being distracted by games/internet. It's just like an 8 hour, where 2 hours are coding and 6 hours are looking around and doing nothing (a bit exagerated) but all those 8 hours are me and the compiler and nothing else.

I'd like to stay in this point for a while and think about it. I have made this thought some months ago: Is it possible that someone might obsessively wish to release demos but not understanding that it's not what he exactly wants to do? I mean, is it possible that I THINK that I want to do demos, but I don't really understand it? Or I am in denial concerning this realization?

One possible explanation is that in the past I found the demoscene and wanted to make something (and maybe not explicitly liking every aspect of it but only some parts) and the primary reasons must be a meaning in my life, or gaining some self-esteem I lacked by releasing a demo. This might have become an obsession, a habit, waking every day and dreaming of demos I would like to do and become famous (although it wasn't 100% this, I also liked demos), especially I might have needed that. Nowadays, the old habit has remained as a bad virus in my brain, but maybe I don't explicitly need to code demos but I can try other things too. Although it's hard to kill the old habit. And the main question is where should I go? I mean, maybe I am afraid to 1) accept it, 2) leave back the demoscene which was always a primary source of meaning and self-esteem for me.

So, maybe it's possible that it's not the primary think I would wish to do, yet I can't let it go. And I still have ideas, it's not the I am bored, but the initial motivation is degraded while only the habit that makes me think I have to do demos remained.

I can't explain it elsewhere. If I wish to make demos and had it naturally I would have done it. Of course the same explanation could be used for every other aspect. If I struggle with being social or have it bad with girls, then maybe it's because it doesn't come to me naturally, so it shouldn't something that I have to do. Someone would disagree with this. Although lately I have no motivation for anything. I have nowhere to go..
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 18:11:24 by havoc havoc
Haha, it was funny but sucks still.
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 18:26:59 by noby noby
terrible
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 18:53:31 by auld auld
awfulsome
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 18:58:53 by button button
Von Regen in die Traufe.
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 19:07:13 by raer raer
FREE BITS!
rulez added on the 2009-03-01 19:10:30 by fxmj4598fj4598fj fxmj4598fj4598fj
you, sir, need serious help...
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 19:11:03 by Danzig Danzig
Microsoft will love these error reports.
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 19:20:49 by Emod Emod
ROTFLMAOSHTCCOMNAIWEDA @ what Gargaj said :D

Optimus, ja pierdole, miej litosc.
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 20:08:21 by unic0rn unic0rn
fartpoop
glolp
Thanks for the glöp!
added on the 2009-03-01 20:30:47 by branch branch
i totally feel maali.
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 20:33:52 by decipher decipher
?
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 20:34:29 by cxnull cxnull
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sucks added on the 2009-03-01 21:13:54 by Brandy Bogard Brandy Bogard
whatever
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 21:21:23 by Puryx Puryx
your older demos were lightjears ahead.
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 21:54:33 by v3nom v3nom
strange thing
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 22:00:00 by psndcj//tbk psndcj//tbk
At which part does it crash? I need to investigate this to make my demoengine bug free.
added on the 2009-03-01 22:36:42 by Optimus Optimus
Hello!


ADVICE:
Better remove the BITS picture, because it has been used without permission, and I don't want You to be indebted to H.S.J. or BITS.
Thanks for the publicity.

The Good Artist is able to impress others without the need of taking offence against third parties.


Thanks,
SoLo2 (BITS)
rulez added on the 2009-03-01 22:38:31 by BITS BITS
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sucks added on the 2009-03-01 22:40:26 by the-other-pigpen the-other-pigpen
The solo2-comment is fucking priceless.
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 22:52:22 by gloom gloom
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 22:59:50 by Gʀɪʍʍy Gʀɪʍʍy
Really, solo2 REALLY?

Why don't you send a DMCA takedown to Pouet?

No, better yet, Why don't you sue every single informatic entity in the planet for copyright violation?
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 23:05:27 by Blue Ion Blue Ion
someone should warez0ring the BITS full versions xD
added on the 2009-03-01 23:14:53 by aquaman aquaman
what gloom said
sucks added on the 2009-03-01 23:19:33 by quisten quisten
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sucks added on the 2009-03-01 23:20:55 by SoDa7 SoDa7
Trolltro!
added on the 2009-03-01 23:43:16 by xernobyl xernobyl
@Solo2: Yes, I was afraid a bit about that whether it's a good idea or not. Ok, I've just changed the mountains image in the demo with the nearest one I could find :)
rulez added on the 2009-03-02 00:07:39 by Optimus Optimus
because of the "update"

also solo2 get out of pouet-yad
rulez added on the 2009-03-02 00:13:26 by PENETRATOR PENETRATOR
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sucks added on the 2009-03-02 00:30:05 by T$ T$
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Hello!


Thanks, Optimus.
No offense committed!


Bye,
SoLo2 (BITS)
added on the 2009-03-02 01:00:10 by BITS BITS
Baww, I've already voted
Now it's much better, with a *proper* intro.

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added on the 2009-03-02 01:23:52 by Blue Ion Blue Ion
FREE TITS!!
OH.. WAI..
added on the 2009-03-02 01:35:36 by v3nom v3nom
eh?
added on the 2009-03-02 02:06:32 by zefyros zefyros
carecat. pic bawwwwwwwwwww
whoa, havoc... i didn´t read yet, but the purpose is clear !
also what Jean-Luc Picard said !
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 02:34:58 by ɧคɾɗվ. ɧคɾɗվ.
its a copypaste anyway, eh ?!!
Leave TITS alone!
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 04:43:42 by Exin Exin
Hehehe!
rulez added on the 2009-03-02 05:41:26 by bdk bdk
lol
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 08:52:47 by Sir Sir
nice effects / music almost nonexistent but enough wtf'ish...

also FREE TITS!
rulez added on the 2009-03-02 10:54:06 by aftu aftu
the sad truth is that your attention seeking spam is well timed. If this was published just after the BP/TG timeframe you would be lucky to get 2-3 comments.

The demo itself: Not 100% shit (second scene).
added on the 2009-03-02 11:47:23 by Navis Navis
Good, but I never understood when people tell me that I am an attention seeker. I never saw attention seeking in myself. In a sense though, everyone is an attention seeker as everyone is an egoist. But I don't understand it. Why would I release crap to get attention? Am I doing it unconsciously? Why would someone need negative attention? What's the point I am missing here?
added on the 2009-03-02 11:59:42 by Optimus Optimus
Navis: that's the very point of those prods.

people should stop being hypocritical : those prods provide them entertainment, by themselves or the debates around.

they totally fit here :D
added on the 2009-03-02 12:06:45 by aftu aftu
Optimus, man... if attention seeking is not your motive then what is it with these productions? You have enough experience to know when a demo is crap or not - and with the otinanum productions you don't even try to make something decent. I think you could do a very honest demo if you had a plan (scene 1: this, scene2: this etc.). I can come up with one for you if you want - a storyboard that you can produce with your favourite plasmas, voxel landscapes and other stuff you enjoy doing. Then we can send it to BP and see if it gets to top 10 or bottom 10. Now that would be far more interesting than trying to replicate BITS success in annoying the common pouet user, don't you think so ? ;-)


added on the 2009-03-02 12:13:00 by Navis Navis
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Optimus, man... if attention seeking is not your motive then what is it with these productions?


That's what I am trying to answer myself. What kind of attention seeking? The negative one? Am I doing it unconsciously? Am I in denial of sometihng? Because it doesn't make sense..
added on the 2009-03-02 12:22:44 by Optimus Optimus
Anything BITS is automatically thumbed down. We don't need BITS Part 2.
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 12:38:35 by xTr1m xTr1m
optimus, whatever it is it is more lame than the 2-year daughter's attention seeking tandrums (which, by the way, are rare). The reason being that her tandrums come naturally; they are not copied by something she saw on the TV or from her parents.

Otinanum, on the other hand, tries to copy the style of BITS - it is not just pitiful, it is a direct derivative of something pitiful - twice as bad.
It is futile and pointless: for us as audience and for you too (you are clearly confused now).
added on the 2009-03-02 12:48:22 by Navis Navis
:(
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 16:16:43 by toxie toxie
God damnit, you suck.
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 17:07:30 by ruairi [rc55] ruairi [rc55]
You made this because it's the only thing in your life that makes some excitement. It's not attention seeking, it's a cry for help because you're so utterly bored, sitting around not doing anything every day.

There's a whole world outside, go, find a life.
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 17:40:30 by psonice psonice
Picture with mountains, trees, house and smoke on the chimney.
rulez added on the 2009-03-02 17:40:44 by texel texel
Be yourself.....
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 17:48:33 by Shazz^TRSi^MJJ Shazz^TRSi^MJJ
:-(
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 18:22:53 by martin martin
Free glöps?
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 18:59:10 by misioslaw misioslaw
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There's a whole world outside, go, find a life.


I somehow can't get this. If it was so easy or the solution then I wouldn't be here. Except if I am in denial. Except if I don't want to change. Except if sadness is my fuel.
added on the 2009-03-02 19:16:03 by Optimus Optimus
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added on the 2009-03-02 19:21:18 by havoc havoc
i love that image, especially since the resizer is now a resampler
also get it together optimus
this is between shit and fun. but more shit.
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 20:07:42 by 4kum4 4kum4
Ok, I have resolved my thoughts about denial just right now. Maybe I just need to get a fucking job. I haven't succeeded yet. I need to read SQL, everyone does SQL and nothing else.
added on the 2009-03-02 20:10:32 by Optimus Optimus
Hello. I just observed the real reason why I suck at democoding. Or why I do not exactly suck at coding itself but in productivity, in results, in creating a good solid demo and in time. It is something I have noticed several times in the past but bypassed it for some reasons, never gave it enough attention. But now I had greater awareness of it and I was shocked.

I simply sit down to code something and it takes me 4+ times more to finish it than what it should originally take. Something that would take 1-2 hours and I could simply do more stuff or even do different real life stuff in between, it takes me a whole evening or day. Suddenly I realize how awfully time passes. I sit there thinking of the next line of code to write and I may loose focus or daydream or play with something on my fingers for several minutes. And then I wake up and realize it and try to focus but my mind goes elsewhere.

To not misunderstand me, I don't want necessarily with this thread to focus on disorders (although it would be interesting), in the past I never thought I would fit the profile of an ADD person as I know it (especially not ADHD, I am the silent guy) but now I have noticed that something really bad is playing and I'd be just wondering whether there are some techniques to keep focused on the democoding and not snap out of it or if someone else experiences something similar and how he gets along with it.

However, a possibility is that I am simply absent minded in parts of coding where I don't have the best interest. I've been noticing at which coding sessions I am loosing it and at which I am really focused and produce a lot (this happens once in ten times). I may be coding a new effect (I tried the freedir tunnel we were discussing) but at some trivial parts with not much interest or not something new yet a bit tricky to think and needs brain energy I may be absent minded and taking 3 hours for trivial stuff of half an hour and not realizing it. The rare cases where I am really feeling productive are when I am experimenting with some crazy idea (usually on optimization) I just thought and really want to try. But when I just have to connect parts of demos or code trivial stuff I spent a lot of time. Another side I perform ok is when I have to copy-paste code (trivial but I don't have to put mind in it, just automation), ok lame. And also usually I keep daydreaming about a demo easilly but it's hard for me to sit down and work on it. When I daydream my mind works, when I sit down to code I flat out.

Also, there is always the same feeling. Maybe I used to oppress myself to code demos even when I didn't felt ok with it. I feel some pressure inside me, almost like psychosomatic, something telling me "Oh, I am bored to just sit here and code". At this part, of course, as expected, I get a lot of those absent minded where I sit down to code and everything goes wrong, my attention shifts to other things and I loose it. Ok, maybe this is just a way for myself to say "Knock it off, I don't want to code a demo right now. Give me something else to focus on!". But what?

Well, I do this thing too, what kept my mother worrying. But even then I just feel I don't get enough of my potential. Sometimes, I also wonder whether music or no music or other conditions would be more suitable or distract me but I haven't experimented really. I think the matter is also a matter of will, like I don't really want to code at specific time but I want to finish the demo in time.

I don't think it works for me. Usually I don't even consider trying. Once I was watching the Xardavellas show (with the paranormal shit) while trying to code something at the same time (hmm,. crazy, haven't done this before) and I couldn't focus at all (although I was trying to understand what they were saying on the show, not just as background noise)

Didn't considered that much before. But yes I remember once that some electronic music without lyrics worked very well, while some greek hip hop really killed my focus :P

However, I should still investigate which parts of coding gets me in the mood and which processes slows me down.

Cool, it sometimes works.

In some other times I am too lazy or feel oppressed that I won't even start, I won't even touch the compiler for a second for days. But if I touch it then magic happens. Although I avoid it. Maybe I am just lazy or don't really want to code a demo. Is there a cure?

Good, but the main problem happens when I am offline. We are not talking about defocus because of Pouet here.

Yes actually. We are not talking about the times I write on pouet where you'd think I should be doing something else. I am only talking about the specific time periods I sit down to code, I haven't opened any browser or anything, and my mind gets distracted, I simple have a bland look, I am absent minded for a long time. I don't mean being distracted by games/internet. It's just like an 8 hour, where 2 hours are coding and 6 hours are looking around and doing nothing (a bit exagerated) but all those 8 hours are me and the compiler and nothing else.

I'd like to stay in this point for a while and think about it. I have made this thought some months ago: Is it possible that someone might obsessively wish to release demos but not understanding that it's not what he exactly wants to do? I mean, is it possible that I THINK that I want to do demos, but I don't really understand it? Or I am in denial concerning this realization?

One possible explanation is that in the past I found the demoscene and wanted to make something (and maybe not explicitly liking every aspect of it but only some parts) and the primary reasons must be a meaning in my life, or gaining some self-esteem I lacked by releasing a demo. This might have become an obsession, a habit, waking every day and dreaming of demos I would like to do and become famous (although it wasn't 100% this, I also liked demos), especially I might have needed that. Nowadays, the old habit has remained as a bad virus in my brain, but maybe I don't explicitly need to code demos but I can try other things too. Although it's hard to kill the old habit. And the main question is where should I go? I mean, maybe I am afraid to 1) accept it, 2) leave back the demoscene which was always a primary source of meaning and self-esteem for me.

So, maybe it's possible that it's not the primary think I would wish to do, yet I can't let it go. And I still have ideas, it's not the I am bored, but the initial motivation is degraded while only the habit that makes me think I have to do demos remained.

I can't explain it elsewhere. If I wish to make demos and had it naturally I would have done it. Of course the same explanation could be used for every other aspect. If I struggle with being social or have it bad with girls, then maybe it's because it doesn't come to me naturally, so it shouldn't something that I have to do. Someone would disagree with this. Although lately I have no motivation for anything. I have nowhere to go..

Hello. I just observed the real reason why I suck at democoding. Or why I do not exactly suck at coding itself but in productivity, in results, in creating a good solid demo and in time. It is something I have noticed several times in the past but bypassed it for some reasons, never gave it enough attention. But now I had greater awareness of it and I was shocked.

I simply sit down to code something and it takes me 4+ times more to finish it than what it should originally take. Something that would take 1-2 hours and I could simply do more stuff or even do different real life stuff in between, it takes me a whole evening or day. Suddenly I realize how awfully time passes. I sit there thinking of the next line of code to write and I may loose focus or daydream or play with something on my fingers for several minutes. And then I wake up and realize it and try to focus but my mind goes elsewhere.

To not misunderstand me, I don't want necessarily with this thread to focus on disorders (although it would be interesting), in the past I never thought I would fit the profile of an ADD person as I know it (especially not ADHD, I am the silent guy) but now I have noticed that something really bad is playing and I'd be just wondering whether there are some techniques to keep focused on the democoding and not snap out of it or if someone else experiences something similar and how he gets along with it.

However, a possibility is that I am simply absent minded in parts of coding where I don't have the best interest. I've been noticing at which coding sessions I am loosing it and at which I am really focused and produce a lot (this happens once in ten times). I may be coding a new effect (I tried the freedir tunnel we were discussing) but at some trivial parts with not much interest or not something new yet a bit tricky to think and needs brain energy I may be absent minded and taking 3 hours for trivial stuff of half an hour and not realizing it. The rare cases where I am really feeling productive are when I am experimenting with some crazy idea (usually on optimization) I just thought and really want to try. But when I just have to connect parts of demos or code trivial stuff I spent a lot of time. Another side I perform ok is when I have to copy-paste code (trivial but I don't have to put mind in it, just automation), ok lame. And also usually I keep daydreaming about a demo easilly but it's hard for me to sit down and work on it. When I daydream my mind works, when I sit down to code I flat out.

Also, there is always the same feeling. Maybe I used to oppress myself to code demos even when I didn't felt ok with it. I feel some pressure inside me, almost like psychosomatic, something telling me "Oh, I am bored to just sit here and code". At this part, of course, as expected, I get a lot of those absent minded where I sit down to code and everything goes wrong, my attention shifts to other things and I loose it. Ok, maybe this is just a way for myself to say "Knock it off, I don't want to code a demo right now. Give me something else to focus on!". But what?

Well, I do this thing too, what kept my mother worrying. But even then I just feel I don't get enough of my potential. Sometimes, I also wonder whether music or no music or other conditions would be more suitable or distract me but I haven't experimented really. I think the matter is also a matter of will, like I don't really want to code at specific time but I want to finish the demo in time.

I don't think it works for me. Usually I don't even consider trying. Once I was watching the Xardavellas show (with the paranormal shit) while trying to code something at the same time (hmm,. crazy, haven't done this before) and I couldn't focus at all (although I was trying to understand what they were saying on the show, not just as background noise)

Didn't considered that much before. But yes I remember once that some electronic music without lyrics worked very well, while some greek hip hop really killed my focus :P

However, I should still investigate which parts of coding gets me in the mood and which processes slows me down.

Cool, it sometimes works.

In some other times I am too lazy or feel oppressed that I won't even start, I won't even touch the compiler for a second for days. But if I touch it then magic happens. Although I avoid it. Maybe I am just lazy or don't really want to code a demo. Is there a cure?

Good, but the main problem happens when I am offline. We are not talking about defocus because of Pouet here.

Yes actually. We are not talking about the times I write on pouet where you'd think I should be doing something else. I am only talking about the specific time periods I sit down to code, I haven't opened any browser or anything, and my mind gets distracted, I simple have a bland look, I am absent minded for a long time. I don't mean being distracted by games/internet. It's just like an 8 hour, where 2 hours are coding and 6 hours are looking around and doing nothing (a bit exagerated) but all those 8 hours are me and the compiler and nothing else.

I'd like to stay in this point for a while and think about it. I have made this thought some months ago: Is it possible that someone might obsessively wish to release demos but not understanding that it's not what he exactly wants to do? I mean, is it possible that I THINK that I want to do demos, but I don't really understand it? Or I am in denial concerning this realization?

One possible explanation is that in the past I found the demoscene and wanted to make something (and maybe not explicitly liking every aspect of it but only some parts) and the primary reasons must be a meaning in my life, or gaining some self-esteem I lacked by releasing a demo. This might have become an obsession, a habit, waking every day and dreaming of demos I would like to do and become famous (although it wasn't 100% this, I also liked demos), especially I might have needed that. Nowadays, the old habit has remained as a bad virus in my brain, but maybe I don't explicitly need to code demos but I can try other things too. Although it's hard to kill the old habit. And the main question is where should I go? I mean, maybe I am afraid to 1) accept it, 2) leave back the demoscene which was always a primary source of meaning and self-esteem for me.

So, maybe it's possible that it's not the primary think I would wish to do, yet I can't let it go. And I still have ideas, it's not the I am bored, but the initial motivation is degraded while only the habit that makes me think I have to do demos remained.

I can't explain it elsewhere. If I wish to make demos and had it naturally I would have done it. Of course the same explanation could be used for every other aspect. If I struggle with being social or have it bad with girls, then maybe it's because it doesn't come to me naturally, so it shouldn't something that I have to do. Someone would disagree with this. Although lately I have no motivation for anything. I have nowhere to go..

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added on the 2009-03-02 20:18:06 by havoc havoc
free glöp
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 20:29:09 by cruzer cruzer
looks like "sheep olives" to me
You can count on my steel.
rulez added on the 2009-03-02 21:06:14 by ilmarque ilmarque
Hello. I just observed the real reason why I suck at democoding. Or
why I do not exactly suck at democoding. Or why I suck at
democoding. Or why I do not exactly suck at coding itself but in
productivity, in results, in creating a good solid demo and in
time. It is something I have noticed that something really bad is
playing and I'd be just wondering whether there are some techniques to
keep focused on the democoding and not snap out of it or if someone
else experiences something similar and how he gets along with it.

However, a possibility is that I am simply absent minded in parts of
coding where I sit down to code and everything goes wrong, my
attention shifts to other things and I'd be just wondering whether
there are some techniques to keep focused on the democoding and not
snap out of it or if someone else experiences something similar and
how he gets along with it.

However, a possibility is that I am simply absent minded in parts of
coding where I don't have the best interest. I've been noticing at
which coding sessions I am loosing it and at which I am really focused
and produce a lot (this happens once in ten times). I may be coding a
new effect (I tried the freedir tunnel we were discussing) but at some
trivial parts with not much interest or not something new yet a bit
tricky to think and needs brain energy I may be absent minded and
taking 3 hours for trivial stuff of half an hour and not realizing
it. The rare cases where I am really focused and produce a lot (this
happens once in ten times). I may be coding a new effect (I tried the
freedir tunnel we were discussing) but at some trivial parts with not
much interest or not something new yet a bit tricky to think and needs
brain energy I may be absent minded and taking 3 hours for trivial
stuff of half an hour and not realizing it. The rare cases where I am
really feeling productive are when I am experimenting with some crazy
idea (usually on optimization) I just thought and really want to
try. But when I just have to connect parts of demos or code trivial
stuff I spent a lot of time. Another side I perform ok is when I have
to copy-paste code (trivial but I don't have to put mind in it, just
automation), ok lame. And also usually I keep daydreaming about a demo
easilly but it's hard for me to sit down and work on it. When I am
experimenting with some crazy idea (usually on optimization) I just
thought and really want to try. But when I just observed the real
reason why I suck at democoding. Or why I suck at democoding. Or why I
do not exactly suck at coding itself but in productivity, in results,
in creating a good solid demo and in time. It is something I have
noticed several times in the past I never thought I would fit the
profile of an ADD person as I know it (especially not ADHD, I am the
silent guy) but now I had greater awareness of it and I was shocked.

I simply sit down to code and everything goes wrong, my attention
shifts to other things and I loose it. Ok, maybe this is just a way
for myself to say "Knock it off, I don't want to code and everything
goes wrong, my attention shifts to other things and I loose it. Ok,
maybe this is just a way for myself to code demos even when I am
experimenting with some crazy idea (usually on optimization) I just
thought and really want to try. But when I just have to connect parts
of demos or code trivial stuff I spent a lot of time. Another side I
perform ok is when I daydream my mind works, when I sit down to code I
flat out.

Also, there is always the same feeling. Maybe I used to oppress myself
to code demos even when I didn't felt ok with it. I feel some pressure
inside me, almost like psychosomatic, something telling me "Oh, I am
bored to just sit here and code". At this part, of course, as
expected, I get a lot of those absent minded where I sit down to code
I flat out.

Also, there is always the same feeling. Maybe I used to oppress myself
to code demos even when I didn't felt ok with it. I feel some pressure
inside me, almost like psychosomatic, something telling me "Oh, I am
bored to just sit here and code". At this part, of course, as
expected, I get a lot of those absent minded where I sit down and work
on it. When I daydream my mind goes elsewhere.

To not misunderstand me, I don't want necessarily
sucks added on the 2009-03-02 22:22:02 by Joghurt Joghurt
Oh fuck... what's all about those chunks of texts?
added on the 2009-03-03 00:41:26 by Optimus Optimus
quality or gtfo
sucks added on the 2009-03-03 17:40:13 by src src
Waste of bytes.
sucks added on the 2009-03-03 18:21:50 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
-xm has ticks
-YTMND-style

Could have been funny when presented as a joke but fails. Why am I even typing this?
sucks added on the 2009-03-03 19:14:06 by numtek numtek
shit
sucks added on the 2009-03-03 20:29:37 by aizen aizen
If no attention at all is the worst punishment for this prod I will at least send you the gift to express that I think it's just completely lame.
At least you're not selling the crap for three euros each.
sucks added on the 2009-03-03 20:42:14 by Paralax Paralax
Why do you vote it down? I found it amusing!
rulez added on the 2009-03-04 03:25:23 by LiraNuna LiraNuna
LiraLuna: it says bits, not tits. BITS.
added on the 2009-03-04 04:05:47 by unic0rn unic0rn
shit, i should go to sleep. LiraNuna. -.-
added on the 2009-03-04 04:06:26 by unic0rn unic0rn
What Navis and Havoc said.
sucks added on the 2009-03-04 09:34:19 by Shockwave Shockwave
self-upthumbing wont help ya
sucks added on the 2009-03-04 13:32:55 by Captain Zed Yago Captain Zed Yago
Major waste of time.

Though I chuckled when it crashed.
sucks added on the 2009-03-05 01:18:50 by glxblt glxblt
At which part did it crashed? You didn't told me.
added on the 2009-03-05 01:21:26 by Optimus Optimus
Could you stop it, please.
sucks added on the 2009-03-05 11:43:12 by doomdoom doomdoom
I am curious and I will watch this demo now. Hold on a sec
added on the 2009-03-07 16:10:59 by vibrator vibrator
There are millions of humans on this planet who could not produce something like this.

Thus I thumb it up.

Also I enjoyed the demo, it is pleasantly short and the crash ending is a nice touch.
rulez added on the 2009-03-07 16:20:15 by vibrator vibrator
Never give up.
added on the 2009-03-08 14:20:35 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
Up becouse Optimus is true legend on Pouet!
rulez added on the 2009-03-11 11:33:12 by tttttttttttttttt tttttttttttttttt
wall of text crits you for 5000!
added on the 2009-03-14 17:07:52 by mind mind
... will you stop crying on day ? ....
sucks added on the 2009-03-14 18:44:06 by Stv Stv
"one" even...
added on the 2009-03-14 18:44:43 by Stv Stv
I somehow have a nostalgy for these absurd pieces of art. Maybe do another one?
added on the 2009-06-24 13:09:39 by Optimus Optimus
please, no.
sucks added on the 2009-06-24 13:17:12 by Dano Dano
free glöp
sucks added on the 2009-06-24 13:54:17 by relias abardon relias abardon
BITS!
sucks added on the 2009-06-24 15:53:22 by lsl lsl
It's not B!I!T!S! and that alone is pigworthy now...

+It has some design to go with the glitchy code
+it actually runs on some computers other than SoLo2's
+It's not hiding behind a donations page.

*Thumb**Thumb**Thumb**Thumb**Thumb*
rulez added on the 2009-10-04 09:57:37 by BOBs BOBs
glöp
sucks added on the 2010-11-17 21:41:18 by chromag chromag
crashes shortly after the xor pattern rotozoomer.
sucks added on the 2017-03-31 16:37:05 by FlashyYNT FlashyYNT
Tune is successful :))
rulez added on the 2017-03-31 22:57:53 by Buckethead Buckethead
This crashes on me :(
added on the 2018-07-07 21:52:22 by Optimus Optimus
My most shameful years btw.
added on the 2018-07-07 21:52:39 by Optimus Optimus
But I want to make one more of these :)
added on the 2018-07-07 21:52:49 by Optimus Optimus
@optimus: be a man and add coding credits to the prods ;)

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