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release date : october 2007
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added on the 2007-10-30 08:33:52 by puls puls

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Wow! It takes some effort to run this on emulator (I was getting sector error something but what I was doing wrong is that both side1a and side1b should be inserted in the first two disks) but it's worth it. The sound is great, though it's a pitty most parts don't play sound. Is it CPU limiting or something? There is too much digital sound, the plasma part is great and the tunnel (like Overflow's backtro technique?). The vectorballs are really cool too. ANd the good quality images and video. Lot's of stuff here..
rulez added on the 2007-10-30 10:05:31 by Optimus Optimus
Wtf is a Thomson?
Yes.. on these machines the cpu is just too slow to allow plenty of cycles to play both sound and anims. Actually there is no dedicated sound-chip on this platform and the 1Mhz 8bits cpu must feed the primitive 6-bit DAC in real time to produce sound, which takes most of its time.
rulez added on the 2007-10-30 14:39:28 by __sam__ __sam__
Video please, not going to bother with some lame comp.
added on the 2007-10-30 14:56:54 by shock__ shock__
A Thomson is a 8-bits French kind of machine from the eighties. There are several machines (TO7, TO7/70, MO5, MO5NR TO9, TO8, MO6, TO9+, TO8, TO8D) but they all share the same CPU: a 6809e motorola chip at 1Mhz, and a specific device, the light-pen which make these machines very innovative at that time. Though most information about Thomson computers are in french, you can find short descriptions in english here: http://www.old-computers.com/museum/company.asp?st=1&m=132. An emulator is available here http://dcmoto.free.fr/.
added on the 2007-10-30 15:09:46 by __sam__ __sam__
Well, I've tried my luck with DCMoto already, but for some reason I can't get the disks to be read.
added on the 2007-10-30 15:14:01 by shock__ shock__
Video is here: http://www.serveur87.com/forumthomson/forum2007/cptrendu03.html but caution, some 50Hz effects looks ugly due to improper video playback rate. Its better to look at the demo on an emulator, and even better, on a real TO8D machine.
added on the 2007-10-30 15:20:14 by __sam__ __sam__
Wow, a Thomson demo, mandatory thumb !

Those little TO7 and MO5 were quite trendy in France "back in the days" indeed.

I prefered to get an Amstrad CPC 6128 at the time though :)
rulez added on the 2007-10-30 15:26:57 by keops keops
Thanks for the video, isn't there by any chance a how-to for the emulator? I'm always getting sector errors.
added on the 2007-10-30 15:27:12 by shock__ shock__
For DCMoto, you'd better use the FD files here: http://dcmoto.free.fr/programmes/s/17/spaceproject-to8fd.zip . Don't forget to press space-bar to tell the demo to go on after inserting new disks.
added on the 2007-10-30 15:35:28 by __sam__ __sam__
Ah, thanks, should have supplied the .fd files in the first place, as I doubt that computer is/was popular outside france. It's a shame there's barely any music, but I really liked the big crunch and shuttle medley parts. Not knowing what the machine is capable of, you get a thumb never the less
rulez added on the 2007-10-30 15:49:52 by shock__ shock__
thanks ;) Sound is really problematic on this hardware. Early demos on Thomson didn't even have a bit of sound or barely *one* bit ... which didn't sound good at all (beep/beep kind of noise). Now using tricks it's possible to mix animation and sound for some effects. This is really a breakthrough for this aging hardware.
added on the 2007-10-30 16:04:05 by __sam__ __sam__
respect for the achievements on the platform! but this is really boring and from my own experiences with the 6809 i think one could achieve better fx
added on the 2007-10-30 17:55:29 by toxie toxie
@toxie
For my personnal interrest, what kind of machine also uses a 6809e? I've read about the Dragon and the Coco, but I don't know which kind of effect was achieved on these platform.
added on the 2007-10-30 20:01:41 by __sam__ __sam__
Thomson !!
rulez added on the 2007-10-30 20:19:09 by Gʀɪʍʍy Gʀɪʍʍy
Video please. Thumb for the specs and screenshots :O
rulez added on the 2007-10-30 21:21:14 by xernobyl xernobyl
Wow, cool stuff. :D Didn't know this platform at all. :) Lots of parts here and except for the "show random spaceship pics" part I like them all. :) Great demo.
rulez added on the 2007-10-30 21:48:17 by StingRay StingRay
Luckily I watched the video so I could skip past the boring slideshow at the beginning.. The actual effects were quite nice, cool stuff for a 1 MHz machine.

@__sam__: Didn't Commodore make one? And there were also arcade machines from e.g. Konami in the early '80s that used the 6809.
rulez added on the 2007-10-30 22:04:56 by mic mic
it does not work on MO5
sucks added on the 2007-10-30 22:08:49 by pr90600 pr90600
To pr90600, it doesn't work either on a TO7 nor on a TO7/70, nor on an Atari nor on an Amiga.. Your're this stuff is probably bullshit.. but did you read the NFO describing the required harware ?
added on the 2007-10-31 09:29:13 by __sam__ __sam__
@mic: As far as I know, comodore didn't sell any 6809e personal computer. Olivetti did sell some TOx clones under the name "prodest".

@pr90600: oops I forgot a word: you are right, this stuff is surely plain bullshit, since it doesn't work on my coffee machine too.
added on the 2007-10-31 09:34:17 by __sam__ __sam__
Had some nice parts, but goddamn it was boring as hell as the parts went on for waaaay too long. And the lack of music during most of the parts didn't really help ;)
So piggie it is
added on the 2007-10-31 09:50:42 by britelite britelite
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since it doesn't work on my coffee machine too.


that indeed deserves a BB Image :P
added on the 2007-10-31 11:54:31 by StingRay StingRay
+great stuff
+platform
-way too long (but thanx to vidplayer, i can happily skip)
rulez added on the 2007-11-01 19:39:52 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
I didn't know such sound could be produced on Thomson ! I want one :) Nice demo !
rulez added on the 2010-02-13 17:06:44 by ultrasyd ultrasyd
Great!
rulez added on the 2010-07-19 14:11:26 by Eliot/benedictio Eliot/benedictio
Way too long, but definitely some good stuff in it.
Question: You don't even have a timer you can use for some low quality sample replay while doing animations?
rulez added on the 2010-07-19 16:39:34 by Dbug Dbug
Best demo for this plateform, a bit tricky to emulate.
Test it online (disk 1 & 2 only)
http://www.alternative-system.com/specific/emu/jteo/space.htm
(java +1.4 required)
rulez added on the 2011-01-16 03:05:01 by gilles gilles
IMHO deserves more nice comments. Obviously much work, with some visuals/fx which makes me want to know more about Thomson computers.
rulez added on the 2015-03-06 10:11:19 by Overflow Overflow
Amazing.
rulez added on the 2019-01-29 02:42:42 by Buckethead Buckethead

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