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you need to listen. by nosfe [web]
screenshot added by nosfe on 2005-03-30 00:08:46
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release date : march 2005
release party : Breakpoint 2005
compo : animation
ranked : 15th
  • rulez 35
  • is ok 11
  • sucks 7
popularity : 0%
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  • rulez 0.53
alltime top: #4572
added on the 2005-03-29 20:16:22 by nosfe nosfe

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fuckings to all who went to the stage. (except those two french guys who came and apologised after the compo)

and fuckings for kb for encouraging drunks to act stupid during the previous entry..

and fuckings for people who do entertainment.
added on the 2005-03-29 20:42:39 by nosfe nosfe
i didnt see your stage performance but thumbs up for it anyway nosfe, rumours reached denmark in a couple hours.. Going to download the file now!
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 20:49:54 by NoahR NoahR
respect.
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 21:35:40 by Gargaj Gargaj
me too. (respect)
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 22:06:45 by TrX TrX
WTF?!?
sucks added on the 2005-03-29 22:10:17 by eye eye
Fuckings for for this insult for eyes and ears. And fuckings for Nosfe's aggressive and childish childish behaivour.

I need to listen? I really dont like to be forced things to see which i don't like, just to know when the next one comes up. Next time more creativity than just a fuzzy screen with terrible noise please. And no stupid behaivour when people want to say that they don't like it. You cant force people with your fists man, okay?
sucks added on the 2005-03-29 23:30:15 by Exin Exin
fuckings to people who ruined 1st watch wow effect experience. i hope you all get cancer and die for your drunk narrowmindedness and lack of respect to other peoples work.

the prod owns.
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 23:33:07 by psenough psenough
Ps.. werd!.
As it was shown it means it wasnt disqualified. Nosfe put work into it, and obviously derserve to see his work on the big screen. You dont like it, take a smoke, or go for a walk. But dont be disrespectful bastards and ruin his thing by hoggin the attention just because its not your taste. rude people suck. I wasnt there, but from all that i have heard, nosfe was in his perfectly good right to be pissed off and so would i have been in his situation.
added on the 2005-03-29 23:46:22 by NoahR NoahR
Exin, umm, are you sure you are even talking about this video? the music is ambient, not noise. the difference would be quite big. and fuzzy screen? wtf are you talking about?

do you seriously think that when there are 1000 people in the hall, of whom 10 are so drunk and stupid that they don't want to see something, then none of the people in the hall should watch it?
i don't know what the shit have you ever done, but i would not try to take your right to present your productions at parties.

except for any parties that i'll be organising from now on since you're an asshole and i don't want assholes to
release anything at parties that i organise.

added on the 2005-03-29 23:56:08 by nosfe nosfe
and people, do make a note: next time i will use violence for real.
added on the 2005-03-29 23:58:36 by nosfe nosfe

Oh come on.

I could say this production "polarizes" and should thus be judged with care. Maybe it does.

But objectively seen, I do not have the feeling that a huge amount of work went into it. Subjectively I would not watch it again.
sucks added on the 2005-03-30 00:02:46 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
stelthz, personally i do think that 6 weeks is quite a fucking lot.
added on the 2005-03-30 00:16:41 by nosfe nosfe
Personally I think slapping the one guy was too much.
But I also think that ppl shouldn't yell or get up the stage during an enty. I also thought that many many demos were boring, but I didn't climb up the stage because other ppl might have enjoyed them.
added on the 2005-03-30 00:36:31 by elend elend
and oh yeah, another nice point, bp05 costed me this year something like 350-400euros, with that price i didn't even get to see my production without interruptions from fucking assholes.
my monthly income is 235euros.
added on the 2005-03-30 01:20:38 by nosfe nosfe
Nosfe: Isn't this the controversial reaction you want from your productions? Sounds like you caused a stir, so thumbs up for that! :)
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 01:30:46 by Shanethewolf Shanethewolf
as always i really enjoy nosfe videos
they're so fucked up it's just great.
the fact that so many were pissed during the compo deserves a thumb up ;)
maybe not very suitable for a demo party but would be perfect for a video installation
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 09:44:32 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
my personal taste differ, but i thumb this up to show that i dont like the way people are acting either. if you dont want to see a video/animation production, then don't watch the compo. stop destroying for others.

and yeah, kb, i must really agree on the fact that you shouldn't have gotten people to stage in the first place.

btw the soundtrack is really damn nice, and anyone who calls this noise should get new ears or something :)
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 09:52:22 by leijaa leijaa
very nice music and atmosphere, however too long for this compo i think...
added on the 2005-03-30 12:43:28 by nitro2 nitro2
Rules. And fuckings to lamer assholes from me as well, this one definitely deserved to be shown.
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 15:32:47 by Preacher Preacher
> fuckings to all who went to the stage.

Nosfe, this prod is just beautiful. Beside that, seeing you pushing people out from the scene was just a perfect moment :-)
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 16:11:22 by krabob krabob
fuckings to _everyone_ who acted childish and immature during this and the preceding kosmoplovci videos.

as what comes to the prod; i really digged jari's music and the videomaterial accompanied it rather well. it could've been a bit shorter though. I have to watch it again, undisturbed, to be able to give it a proper rating.
added on the 2005-03-30 16:38:32 by uncle-x uncle-x
fuckings to the germans on that stage. even more fuckings to the nutcases who think nosfe doesn't have the right to get them off there.
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 12:13:04 by skrebbel skrebbel
A very nice animation. Yet I think that it doesn't really fit a demoparty. I definitely had no problem watching this till the end, as I found it rather interesting, but I understand that some people were bored.

I do not want to vote right now, as I'm too much in a gracefull mood right now. I'll give it an unbiased vote after watching it again.
added on the 2005-03-31 13:43:32 by chock chock
I bet this would work as a visualization at something and I usually like this kind of stuff, but I just found this kind of boring :(

(and, I think it still was shit from people to interrupt this at the compo)
sucks added on the 2005-04-01 01:53:52 by teel teel
Nosfe: At least i didnt try to beat up those who didnt like My demo at Tum!
added on the 2005-04-01 02:19:42 by Exin Exin
I don't know what to expect on an event with hundrets of drunken partypeople. This demo/anim would certainly work in a different environment, with serious elite design students around.

Giving fuckings to people who do entertainment means giving fuckings to people who like to be entertained, so in the end it's giving fuckings to yourself.

To save your work next time - make a 3 minute party version and everybody will be happy.
rulez added on the 2005-04-01 02:39:19 by novel novel
you need to listen.
rulez added on the 2005-04-01 11:40:45 by chavez chavez
Yes. Definitely rulez. But I don't think something like that will ever rank high in a compo.
rulez added on the 2005-04-01 13:19:38 by chock chock
exin, noise? what are you talking about?


this is beautiful, both the audio and visuals.
rulez added on the 2005-04-02 23:13:49 by hollowman hollowman
I listened.
rulez added on the 2005-04-02 23:19:51 by [self-ban] [self-ban]
i actually hadnt noticed till a few minutes ago, that the track used on this video was previously released on enoughrecords as part of an ep that jari put out through us called CONV
it's track#4, WWC
added on the 2005-04-03 17:29:35 by psenough psenough
i am not a fan of noise but i think the scene should be fair. its unfair that people shout "stop it" but its unfair also to have multiple entrys at a competition and use music which was already released before... (yes we used music too but it was only for the credits part ;D) anyway, i understand nosfe but i think it should be no reason to quit... gtx, d!RT!E
added on the 2005-04-04 19:14:01 by dirtie dirtie
well, i didn't actually knew that the track was released somewhere, i got it from the j. pitkänen maybe two years ago.

personally i don't see nothing wrong with having multiple entries as long as it's allowed by the organisers. the two videos i had this year aren't alike each other. hey, having multiple entries also means that the author is eating votes from himself.

what i can't understand is why people talk about noise in connection with this video. both audio and visual have 0% of noise in them.
added on the 2005-04-04 19:49:39 by nosfe nosfe
No noise in that. Although i suspect some people less aquainted with ambient stuff might consider it noise perhaps.

Unfortunately, i got a "file too large, could not be bothered to wait" error half way through. I was enjoying it upto that point tho, the tune is great and the visuals fit it very well. I'll download the whole thing at work tomorrow on a faster link. Definately a rulez from me.
rulez added on the 2005-04-04 21:12:56 by psonice psonice
Fascinating. Too bad that the encoding ruins a bit the video quality.
rulez added on the 2005-04-04 22:28:42 by oxb oxb
i would be thankful for any ideas how to encode the video better.
added on the 2005-04-04 22:51:00 by nosfe nosfe
ok nosfe - maybe i am wrong with "noise" but please explaine me what else is it then... in german we say "rauschen"(whirring, soughing, noise). and i think it was a kind of that. i think its just a trial to circumscribe what we saw - not a music style - yes it was not hard or nerving and yes its art, but often people cant understand it or have another taste. it would be great if you can put it into a video installation with a lot of old trashed tv screens or somthing like that. gtx d!RT!E
added on the 2005-04-05 09:50:05 by dirtie dirtie
Thumb up is not for the prod but the excellent amount of controvesy that came out of it.. It's wrong for people to get up on the stage and shout down a prod, threats of violence are also wrong but perhaps understandable in the circumstances.

Makes for some interesting conflict though!
rulez added on the 2005-04-05 09:57:28 by Shockwave Shockwave
boring.
sucks added on the 2005-04-05 16:31:56 by nufan nufan
dirtie, i think the music is ambient. though yeah, different languages do have different meanings for things...

personally i have a dislike for video installations, though in some cases they might deliver the idea better than a one off screening...
added on the 2005-04-05 23:47:15 by nosfe nosfe
I'm not familiar with what is _noise_ and what's ambient (I just can recall ambient music from a time when I've listend to F.S.O.L).
But what threatens my ears and hurtens my eys while watching it cannot be thumbed up from my
particular bridge.

Additionally I missed any rythem...otherwise going on stage and yelling shit at it is no suitable behavior, too
sucks added on the 2005-04-11 00:57:36 by d0DgE d0DgE
doDge, please do tell me what is rythem, and maybe i can try to incorporate that the next time i do something.

how does the soundtrack of this video threaten your ears? seriously, i would like to know, cause i cannot understand a view like that on this particular piece of music.
added on the 2005-04-11 14:50:12 by nosfe nosfe
the music was one of the nicest pieces of ambient i heard - i just don't get it why people complain about it at all... it's not like it's loud or aggressive...
i guess people just HAVE to complain about something :(
added on the 2005-04-11 14:58:15 by Gargaj Gargaj
nope, Gargaj I was not complaining about the "music"...but I did indeed express that it wasn't my taste at all. And I didn't shout disrespects to stop it even though it wasn't my kinda stuff.
It still is a competition and not the GONG-show.

nosfe:
for my personel point of view _rythem_ is present when something (must NOT be a drum) gives me a "beat"->(say rythem) where I can nod my head and that forces me to move the booty. But these were frequencies my ears could not handle (wrong offset...hehehe).

A better example was your 2nd entry. Though it had quite disturbing sound there was a rythem in there...liked that more.
added on the 2005-04-11 23:59:34 by d0DgE d0DgE
could somebody plz tell me what this 'rythem' thing is all about?
also: BASS!
added on the 2005-04-12 02:30:25 by madMixx madMixx
rythem seems to be a bit like rhythm, only that it's nott!

BASS: BB Image

doDgE, so you find this lack of rythem threatening?
added on the 2005-04-12 08:14:21 by nosfe nosfe
Interesting enough. Looking at this pouet page, I have a weird dejavu of http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=10967..!
added on the 2005-04-12 13:27:23 by Navis Navis
fuck my spelling (can't figure where to put the "h" in translating real time ;D )

nosfe:
let's say such "music" that gives me no beat nor ...erm rhythm (!) does not address my PAuLA
channels 8D...
added on the 2005-04-12 15:58:55 by d0DgE d0DgE
i was rehearsing with ultrasound when this was played. got time and mood to watch it.

still stranded to the chair...

nosfe, you have my respect. you touched the artist and the human inside me.
rulez added on the 2005-04-13 00:27:14 by jeenio jeenio
gotta love ppl that dont consider music without drums music.
added on the 2005-04-13 03:46:49 by psenough psenough
someone should use john cage's 4:33 as soundtrack for some demo.
added on the 2005-04-13 09:12:57 by nosfe nosfe
Actually when I saw the title of the wild at BP I thought you did just that.

Even if it would've been a terrible idea, in retrospect it could have shown the .. erm .. not terribly sophisticated noise that emanated from the audience at some point.

As for the soundtrack, it was rather sweet. Not sure the complexity of the visuals, at least their rather uniform texture throught the video matched it.
added on the 2005-04-13 09:48:15 by _-_-__ _-_-__
my god this rules, nosfe, you are THE MAN!
rulez added on the 2005-04-13 15:06:01 by randomi randomi
it doesn't really "rule" and its not kick-ass or something, but it's nice, very chilled and... just nice! The music is in no way like noise or something and i watched the video without feeling any pain in my eyes or ears :)

But it's true that the video is a tad too long...

Do the pictures in the video actually have some meaning? i tried to look close to them but i didn't see anything (sometimes i felt like it looks like a face or something)... it's like watching clouds ;p

Nosfe, where do you work? 235 euro isn't exactly much... ;(

Thumb up for a nice movie that could have been a few ranks higher if it wouldn't be interupted!
rulez added on the 2005-04-13 22:41:32 by Lupin Lupin
lupin, i don't work, i study.

the video is partly a test on obfuscating source material, so when people can't recognise it, it's a success. so seeing a face there is similar to seeing a face in the clouds.

rulez added on the 2005-04-14 00:31:38 by nosfe nosfe
hmm, the encoding is indeed a bit annoying, but i wonder if it really would be better without the mpeg blocks (or maybe they are even intentional?).

iam not sure if its my decoder or something, but i get some lame synch bugs wich i dont think are supposed to be there (some layers jumping back a millisecond or two) wich really sucks for me atleast.

and i can agree that you need some kindof rythm to call it music, but who needs music? sound is just ok.
added on the 2005-04-14 12:09:23 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
Quote:
someone should use john cage's 4:33 as soundtrack for some demo.

Ripping commercial music for demo soundtracks sucks.
added on the 2005-04-14 15:14:26 by gasman gasman
Nosfe: Several GUS-only demos in the early '90s seemed to be using 4:33, on my machine.
added on the 2005-04-14 19:52:59 by sagacity sagacity
Quote:
Nosfe: At least i didnt try to beat up those who didnt like My demo at Tum!


There is a difference between 'not liking it' and taking away his right to have it shown in an insulting manner. Think, then talk, dickweed.
added on the 2005-04-14 20:25:54 by superplek superplek
sagacity, i remember some soundblaster demos doing that on my machine. :)

megadelux, synch bugs might also be due to the apple quicktime mp4 encoder... mpeg blocks are not intentional and they are ugly.

added on the 2005-04-15 10:21:07 by nosfe nosfe
Quote:
Ripping commercial music for demo soundtracks sucks.


Gasman, congratulations on being either failing at low-level humor or not being able to see someone's point.
rulez added on the 2005-04-18 15:18:26 by superplek superplek
this was really relaxing. liked the colors and flow aswell as the audio.

i can see myself lying in a doubled sized bed in a dark and forgotten cave watching this on a big flatscreen tv.

i didnt catch the compo, was to busy hating life and democoding at a forgotten hotelroom.that was mistake, this thingy was just what could get me chilled down back at a creative level again.
rulez added on the 2005-04-18 22:24:35 by quisten quisten
niels, i think YOU are the one missing the point/humor this time... =)

anyway i liked this prod very much. i would have been in favor of a "compo version" though because for demoparty mesaures it was to long, yes. but it was beautiful.
rulez added on the 2005-04-19 13:21:17 by dipswitch dipswitch
absolutely adorable. enjoyed that on the big screen a great deal. at least until the incident caused by it ruined my BP experience for at least 3 hours! man, I was pissed ...
rulez added on the 2005-08-09 20:13:35 by monroe monroe
absolutely adorable. enjoyed it on the big screen a great deal. at least until the incident caused by it ruined my BP experience for at least 3 hours! man, I was pissed ...
added on the 2005-08-09 20:14:19 by monroe monroe
arrgg ... sorry for doublepost :(
added on the 2005-08-09 20:25:12 by monroe monroe
Nice.
rulez added on the 2005-08-31 21:18:57 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
wasnt´t suitable for BP, but it´s a cool prod.
rulez added on the 2008-08-04 23:53:39 by Sir Sir
ok some of nosfes productions are not real my cup of tea, but some are interrested or better descripted fresh experimental.

normaly its a pig but due the fact that some people disturb the prod as it still was running, i give you with pleasure the ruleZ thumb
rulez added on the 2008-09-16 22:56:44 by AMI_TRS AMI_TRS
Fuckings to yourself lamer.
sucks added on the 2010-04-14 04:25:01 by zoolum zoolum
This is actually very good.
The visuals and music work very well together and create a kind of mood that I really like to float in to.
I could go in to a very lengthy review but I feel that isn't necessary.

The thing is with this kind of productions is that you can't just put it on and get instant satisfaction. It is not pop music. Instead you have to really go into the stuff and _feel_.

Thumbs up, and additional thumbs for all the fuckings.
Nosfe, I really dig most of your stuff!
rulez added on the 2010-04-14 05:50:31 by Frost Frost
I can put this on and get instant satisfaction. Well... At least after a couple of minutes when the soundtrack "kicks in" for real ;). This stuff always works for me.
rulez added on the 2010-04-14 08:15:10 by elfan elfan
Although, I have to say that even though the video is soft and mellow and stuff it's not that emotive. I dunno if that was the intention or not.
added on the 2010-04-14 08:16:59 by elfan elfan
just mesmerizingly beautiful
rulez added on the 2011-05-02 04:58:33 by noby noby
My favorite Nosfe production
rulez added on the 2012-02-24 23:56:56 by Frequent Frequent
For the pouet id.
rulez added on the 2015-11-02 13:58:45 by lvd lvd
I really enjoyed the tune. It reminds me of film music. Well done.
rulez added on the 2016-04-26 22:52:10 by dissident dissident
that was watchable!

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