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• first name: Tomasz
• last name: D.

• demo Windows Coronoid by Still [web]
• @tomaes: I agree, "lamer" is reserved for other things (the one you mentioned), sorry.
  
  @noby: I just state my honest crtique here, if you don't like it, please also calm down.
• isokadded on the 2015-03-29 16:10:44
• demo Windows Coronoid by Still [web]
• So I was digging a little in the demo assets, and unfortunately I have found out that even two main "effects" - floating noisy blob and the terrain (that everybody is drolling so much about) near the end are all modelled using external tools (like 3dsmax or Maya), not even "ttool".
  
  I did this render straight out of Maya using .FBX attached:
  
  
  I mean seriously... that's just two objects you have there that could be easily generated with a code and you model it like total lamers (sorry, but that's exactly what it is in a demoscene terms) and then some respected folks over here call it "the best demo since 10 years". No words. I'm very disappointed by the state of the demoscene nowadays.
• sucksadded on the 2015-03-29 15:27:22
• demo Windows Coronoid by Still [web]
• @pixtur: thanks! Its partly fault of my profile on pouet, it should be updated just now. I still hold my views, but I totally agree that only talking is cheap, so not so proud about myself here;) I cannot promise much, but I hope to do some new real-time stuff as well. Either way - great work with the ttool, it is a true inspiration. I was doing few 2d/3d/even text editors myself (as a hobby), so I know how much work it takes to get something that others can use and actually want to use.
• isokadded on the 2015-03-25 00:17:54
• demo Windows Coronoid by Still [web]
• @Navis: sure, it's me, thanks. I just realized proper credits was not added to it (already sent a request to pouet). I didn't do much on a demoscene since then - usual reasons, life, job etc... except recently playing with 3d fractal surfaces (it's not working in real-time, yet ;))
• isokadded on the 2015-03-23 21:19:31
• demo Windows Coronoid by Still [web]
• And to be more precise: I kind of trying to follow @Navis and @smash over here (when they did all the code+most design, and maybe added some music on top), of course not as good results (yet), but it kinds of bothers me that they start to lose faith in "one man show" ;)
• isokadded on the 2015-03-23 20:44:26
• demo Windows Coronoid by Still [web]
• BTW I must have missed that...
  
  
  Quote:

  If you think demoscene is only about "technical depth", well that's a perfectly valid point of view. If you had any track-record, I might even agree.

  
  
  Thanks for using your popularity as an argument and not even checking if I actually have any track-record. It's not much, I agree, but I try my best, in a "coder do everything" spirit, so obviously, not as popular as some celebrities over here.
• isokadded on the 2015-03-23 20:14:04
• demo Windows Coronoid by Still [web]
• @psenough: It definitely opens up a discussion and is a hint for other demomakers to maybe actually put even more effort into design, tooling, compositing etc... AFAIK usual demotools (I'm not that much of a fan, but I've seen some 64k, werk-zueg etc..) have very basic event synchronization, curve editing, etc... so yeah - we can do better here! And this is a good example.
  
  Which is a kind of optimistic conclusion.
  
  And guys, I don't hate it and I didn't thumb this down, just I think it is not yet "there" and I think you could possibly create something way better in the future and for a bigger audience, i.e. by adding more tech-stuff.
• isokadded on the 2015-03-23 18:07:27
• demo Windows Photon by Fairlight [web]
• The shit!
• rulezadded on the 2015-03-23 17:22:05
• demo Windows Coronoid by Still [web]
• (ironically it has won on NVScene, but who cares, right)
• isokadded on the 2015-03-23 17:20:27
• demo Windows Coronoid by Still [web]
• @jco: it's not, apparently and obviously design wins big time, it's just a sentiment to old and even non-existing times when pure-tech ruled the world.
  
  Also, sorry for maybe being to harsh, what you did is good, just IMHO you could do a little bit more on a tech-side (hint: Fairlight, even Cocoon lately, where is some advanced lighting stuff? some volumetric stuff? some fluids? anything?).
  
  But of course it's your choice, if you don't care about tech-savvy audience and this is not your target audience - fine for me. As pixtur said - variety is good. Apparently many people love it, I'm totally ok with that. Sorry again, for picking the "wrong channel on a TV set" then ;)
• isokadded on the 2015-03-23 17:18:30