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• diskmag Windows Hugi #29 - The Blue One by Hugi [web]
• i don't get certain people here, ranting about "oh come on, only you can make hugi better"... WHY THE FUCK SHOULD WE? and no, you can't tell _me _ that i don't care about diskmags or scene in general. but i support only projects that i consider sympathetic, and hugi doesnt belong to them.
• isokadded on the 2004-08-14 03:18:05
• 64k invitation Windows "Kings of the Playground" - Evoke 2004 64k invit by Equinox [web]
• found the hidden part finally.... TPOML.. =)
• isokadded on the 2004-08-11 19:54:57
• diskmag Windows Hugi #29 - The Blue One by Hugi [web]
• magic, definetely not. i'd rather support some diskmags that i like. you can stick to the dead horse named hugi instead...
  
  huh, i wanted not to reply at all :P
• isokadded on the 2004-08-11 18:09:33
• diskmag Windows Hugi #29 - The Blue One by Hugi [web]
• and i think i'll stop continuing this discussion here. expect an answer-article on EP in some diskmag somewhen.
• isokadded on the 2004-08-11 14:13:19
• diskmag Windows Hugi #29 - The Blue One by Hugi [web]
• [/quote]
  The text was composed by August Heinrich Hoffmann von Fallersleben (1798 - 1874) in the year 1841. The music is from Joseph Haydn (1732 - 1809). The anthem consists of three verses. At official celebrations usually only the music is played, without singing; and if there is singing, then people sing only the third verse.
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  yes and what do you think why they sing only the 3rd verse? because only the 3rd verse is the official anthem nowadays! get a clue! if you still dont believe, i have an official german constitution lying around here, with the anthem on the back.
  
  
  
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  What does this have to do with "socialist realism"?! Socialist realism was about showing the working class at labour. In the German Democratic Republic, for example, it was like this: when you created a song about love, the text was required to deal with the love of a kolchos farmer's daughter to a tractor driver.

  
  i wonder what you have (not) read to come to such a simplified view of socialist realism. please read: vladimir paperny, architecture in the age of stalin. culture two, cambridge 2002. then you'll see it's all not so one-dimensional as you see it. it's perhaps even not even about socialist realism only, but about a shift from one aesthetical value-system to another.
  
  
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  I am unable to see any connection with "socialist realism". Health, mental health, good spirit - these are things that are important for every human being.

  
  not with socialist realism itself, but with totalitarian thinking in general. it's not a coincidence that the cultivation of poppy and cannabis indica was prohibited in the ussr only in the 1930s. and it's no coincidence that forced sports and a glorification of absolute health is/was to be found in many totalitarian societies. perhaps EP regards not drinking alcohol and eating no "bad" food an important part of his lifestyle, i do aswell when it comes to food, but when he or i would start to force our points on others, then it's nothing else than bad.
  
  
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  There are three words I've never read in any comment of yours: "in", "my" and "opinion". You always present your opinion as it if were the absolute truth.
  

  
  have you ever read any scientific text that says "in my opinion" all three sentences? i don't need to write that, it should be clear anyway that this is my opinion, which i regard for reasonable, but which is no golden rule.
  
  
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  I'd recommend that you read books by Karl Popper, especially "The Open Society and Its Enemies" ("Die offene Gesellschaft und ihre Feinde").
  

  
  are you showing off with the only books you've read or why are you recommending it to me? what connection to our discussion should it have? am i perhaps the "enemy" of the "open society"? i've read the book of course but i neither see any connection whatsoever to our debate on how acceptable the views of EP are, nor to the debate on hugi's questionable quality. oh, perhaps you mean "uh uh we live in a free society, everyone is allowed to say what he wants so why are you attacking us so hard blahblah" yes indeed we live in an open society, and i'm definetely making use of it here. open society is when noone is going to prohibit your nowadays-pitiful diskmag, not when everyone has to admire it. neither is open society when clueless freaks like EP try to force his questionable standarts upon people, going as far as suggesting ready motives for demos, claiming that certain things are generally "fun to watch" and certain things are not. if you dont understand the reactionary nature of EP's article series i'm quite willing to explain it to you at buenzli (if i wont be too drunk:).
• isokadded on the 2004-08-11 14:08:33
• diskmag Windows Hugi #29 - The Blue One by Hugi [web]
• plus, throwing up controversion does not say ANYTHING about the quality of a mag. else you could regard tabloid newspapers and extremist zines as high-quality press releases.
• isokadded on the 2004-08-10 20:23:14
• diskmag Windows Hugi #29 - The Blue One by Hugi [web]
• magic, i already said i want this thread to get away from personal questions. but, to answer your claim, i'm participating in jurassic pack and pain for quite some time and released a well-respected textmode art scnen mag on my own from 1999 to 2001. so, better check what people do before throwing in unneccesary criticism. and no, i will NOT support hugi especially after this issue revealing the mags reactionary nature.
• isokadded on the 2004-08-10 20:21:17
• diskmag Windows Hugi #29 - The Blue One by Hugi [web]
• typOs even =)
• isokadded on the 2004-08-10 20:15:24
• diskmag Windows Hugi #29 - The Blue One by Hugi [web]
• whoever finds types, he may keep and eat them. and about the storage deviced, yes i know there might be some rom chips with 4kb storage - what i ment is that were never 4kb storage limitations on any of the machines 4kb intros were common on.
• isokadded on the 2004-08-10 20:14:03
• diskmag Windows Hugi #29 - The Blue One by Hugi [web]
• okay, back to the original topic. let this thread not be ground for personal disses!...
  here for some constructived criticism on some selected, so noone can say i'm just a biased superficional hater.
  
  a) "how to save the demoscene" by ep:
  
  inacceptable theses by someone who seemingly misunderstood what the scene is about and doesn't care for the preservation of a specific demoscene character. he wants to convert the unique demoscene in just one of many multimedia-creative communities, just to "go in time" with the general developement. for example, size limitations are for him an artifact of the past, not going in hand with the possibilities of nowadays storage hardware. but there's a big anachronism in there! what has the 4kb size limit to do with storage hardware developement? i dont know any storage device on ANY machine that could handle only 4kb, so the whole size-related ranting is pointless.
  
  the ranting about animation instead of realtime effect execution is absolute blasphemy and inacceptable. demos ARE about realtime code execution, and also, concerning EP's outreach pleas, the realtime aspect of democoding is one of the main promotion aspects of outreach organisations like our digitale kultur e.V. besides that animation-only would break with traditions, the realtime aspect is getting far more people interested in demoscene than animations would do. as someone being involved in the outreach work of digitale kultur e.v. i can totally contradict his thesis about "(the technology) is totally ignored", cause this is simply not the case.
  
  the next chapter, "remove black & white...", does not need to be commented on and just shows the narrowness of EP's aesthetic horizon. i read quite a lot on aesthetics of totalitarian societies in the last months (works by paperny, groys and other culture-philosophers and historicians), and EP's views in this chapter are very much reminding me on these... "socialistic realism" in the ussr from 1932 on also required from all artforms to bring on "cheerful", "lively" and so on motives. "seeing a firm, a factory with rusty pipes, fumes, cars or geometric stuff isn't fun at all" perfectly resembles the views of stalinist aesthetics towards futurism, constructivism and other avant-garde artistic movements. with theses like these, EP positions himself on the side of political reaction and cuts himself off from the avant-gardistic developement of the past 120 years. there's no way to save a progressive movement like the demoscene using the aesthetics of reactionary movements like soc-realism. (by the way, EP's other article "philosophy of and[?] ideas..." carries the same spirit. the slogan "we need more life on screen" was exactly what killed the 20s avant-garde cinema in the ussr, giving birth to aesthetically dead "realistic" pictures).
  
  and in this context, the next chapter "we have to be realist" doesnt need any further comment, since this perfectly matches the phrases of the birth of socialistic realism in 1932. the "we must change sceners" fits perfectly in that context too - it's a try to establish behavement and living norms, a position that the demoscene as an anarchically-rooted community just has to reject. if someone drinks alcohol or eats fastfood is the individual's own business, it has NOTHING to do with the scene.
  
  to close this in EP's own pathetic way of formulating end-theses:
  
  EMMANUEL POIRTIER IS BAD FOR THE SCENE
  HE WANTS TO REDUCE THE CREATIVITY OF THE SCENE TO ONE AESTHETIC AND ONE TECHNICALL APPROACH
  HE REPRESENTS AESTHETICAL STAGNATION AND AT THE SAME TIME THE UPROOTING OF SCENE TRADITIONS
  SHAME ON HUGI FOR GRANTING HIS IDEAS A FORUM
  
  b) "two no-good things about the demoscene" by burt lancaster:
  
  this article is soo wrong it doesnt even need much commenting. the first part, instead of getting creative females into the scene, simply scares them off. the second part, blaming slengpung.com for alcohol over-consumption and stagnation of the scene, is just so fucked up in its essence that there's really no need to lose more words on it.
  
  c) "certified demo coder" by prodigy sandy (who?):
  
  another pitiful attempt towards institutionalisation of the scene movement. goes hand in hand with EP's totalitarian-esque views on aesthetics. if this article would be in the "humour" category, it would be okay, but this seem to be serious. scary...
  
  d) "piracy" by ep:
  
  an attempt on analyzing a deep phenomena, even not as bad on certain spots. but considering p2p as the root of modern piracy makes ep even more stupid than GVU, RIAA and other copyright-enforcing organisations.
  
  e) "scene national anthems" by adok:
  
  okay, now for some attempt on humour. apart from the aspect i don't see any slightly spark of fun and originality in the idea of paraphrasing state anthems (collecting typical songs sceners sing on demoparties would be a far more interesting approach), i have one plea to adok: if you are dealing with some matter, make sure you have knowledge about it! this article shows that our oh-so-intellectual-superstudent adok don't really have a clue what he's writing about. first of all, if you took "functioning" anthems for all the countries, why did you take the german nazi anthem for paraphrasation? a subtile hint on all germans still being nazis? or just a show-off of your cluelesness? yes, i know that that part of the anthem was created before 1848 and stood in a totally different political context originally, but, all ideological ballast aside, this is NOT the current german anthem. (a bit aside the topic, but, on the parody of the polish anthem, i was just laughing - "jescze szena ne zginela / kiedy Hugi zyje" meaning "the scene isn't dead if hugi is still living". no comment needed). now for the russian anthem. first of all, didn't they teach you scientific cyrillic-latin transcription at your elite university? and then, the "szener" inpolantations absolutely make no sense because if you really knew russian, you knew that "szener" gets emphasized on the first syllable, while the metric rhythm of the anthem demands a emphasation on the last one. so, what we have here, is a spasmodic attempt on creating something funny - yes it is funny, but not the way you probably attempted it to be.
  
  
  
  all in all, with this issue, hugi turns out not only to be totally irrelevant, but also to carry all sort of dubious "opinions" by mostly people the scene never heard of. what is this, an attempt to keeping a dead project alive by pumping all sorts of controversial and dubios theories in it? adok, you alsways pretend to be so political conscious - now draw the political parallels on what you've collected and created!
  
  with this ussue, hugi proves its "lameness" once and for all.
  
  but to comfort you, adok, the music in this issue was mostly okay, and the articles by diamondie and optimus (and perhaps some tutorials, i did not check them) were at least something nice to read. but that's all positive i can say on such a coglomeration of confusion, reaction and pure lameness.
  
  
  
• isokadded on the 2004-08-10 19:50:42