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- general:
- level: user
- personal:
- first name: Hector
- last name: Alarcon
- portals:
- demozoo: profile
- cdcs:
- cdc #1: Interference by Sanity
- cdc #2: ARTE by Sanity
- cdc #3: Deep - the Psilocybin Mix by Carillon & Cyberiad [web] & Parallax
- cdc #4: Roots 2.0 by Sanity
- cdc #5: Drugstore by Abyss [web]
- cdc #6: Batman Rises by Batman Group
- cdc #7: Skywards by Darkage [web]
- demo Amiga AGA Skywards by Darkage [web]
- @4gentE: Yes. Rest assured everybody here remember what you said and the way you said it. Sleep well.
- isokadded on the 2025-04-22 22:23:12
- demopack Amiga OCS/ECS Party Pack No. 33 by Artstate
- Quote:
now, he is known as the packman!
That Packman dude should have his own video game or something. :] - isokadded on the 2025-04-22 22:14:37
- demo Amiga AGA Skywards by Darkage [web]
- @bonefish: I didn't know about that rule. Is it something recent, or was it already implemented last year?
Anyway, that rule seems a bit preposterous to me because it's possible that some assets in the demo could be completely generated the easy way (a text prompt and that's it) or completely generated but iterating on prompts or using non-text prompts (images, which in turn could be created with another text prompt or "by hand, tablet, or mouse," or with a mix of techniques, or subsequently retouched in Krita or by varying the noise level of the model's diffusion), or in many other ways that wouldn't fit into a one-dimensional category with four scale levels. In short, that rule seems superfluous to me, and what we should have is more trust in the good faith of the participants and in the fact that they will explain how they made the demo when asked, and that the public will assume that we are no longer in the era of the mouse and tablet and that there is no going back because no one wants to spend a month working on a graphic pixel by pixel when now they can do something much better in less time.
In less time! But not with less effort! This is what so many people don't understand: The fact that you can make an image with Deluxe Paint in less time than it took a 2nd-century artist to make a Greco-Roman mosaic by joining colored stones doesn't detract from your technique or imply that you are worse than the (now forgotten) Roman artist who composed those mosaics and who probably would have been a better artist if they had been able to iterate faster with the mouse, fill, and brush. The same thing is happening with the new techniques that are emerging and that we still don't know how to use properly (just as no one knew how to use photography or could dream of cinema when the first cameras were invented).
Furthermore, a self-respecting artist won't just present the first piece of crap the generative model spits out, but will iterate and use a combined series of techniques until the result is good. And that's art, by the way. Because the art isn't in the tool, but in the artist and the communication they establish with the viewer.
This is why I think that banning techniques from competitions just because a bunch of people think it's still 2015 will only hinder progress in the scene and frustrate artists who want to grow and improve their skills. Not to mention new people who might want to enter the demoscene and lack those anti-AI biases (I firmly believe that AI-hatred is a passing fad and won't last for many years).
I know my opinion may not coincide with that of the majority (the current majority, not the majority of the near future). And that's why I stand by it even more strongly.
That said, I find it very hard to believe that the good people at Darkage wanted to "trick" anyone. Especially when it's obvious they used AI given the (probably very deliberate) style of the images shown in the demo. - isokadded on the 2025-04-22 21:44:50
- demo Amiga AGA Skywards by Darkage [web]
- @gaspode: I wonder if someone will ever advocate for banning the fill tool in paint programs. ;]
Just a reminder, not every graphic in this demo was made with a little help of AI.
- isokadded on the 2025-04-22 19:08:45
- demopack Amiga OCS/ECS Party Pack No. 33 by Artstate
- And thumbs up! :]
- rulezadded on the 2025-04-22 18:17:18
- demopack Amiga OCS/ECS Party Pack No. 33 by Artstate
- Repeat after me...
It's a scoobie-doobie-doobie, scoobie-doobie pack for me. - isokadded on the 2025-04-22 18:16:49
- demo Amiga OCS/ECS Interceptor Intro by Zymosis & Complex [web]
- Flying safely without a CPU! :]
- rulezadded on the 2025-04-22 14:50:44
- invitation Amiga OCS/ECS BOOM! Party 2025 (C64 & A500 Only) Invitation #4 by BOOM!
- Nice picture.
- rulezadded on the 2025-04-22 14:22:29
- demo TIC-80 Grow by Oftenhide
- Very good!
I love that caterpillar. :] - rulezadded on the 2025-04-22 14:10:14
- demo Atari XL/XE Lost World by Desire [web]
- Nice graphics and a banger music. Wonderful!
- rulezadded on the 2025-04-22 14:03:38
account created on the 2002-02-20 20:17:35