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(Ex-)Demosceners in Academia

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Or make a new academia. How about you start, Adok.
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added on the 2013-12-18 09:20:06 by Marq Marq
Being in academia must look much greater from the inside. I have been dealing with industrial reserach in several areas and can tell you that there are two areas of reasearch: Those that are commercially interesting and those that are not. If you are doing university research in one of the former topics, you may get funding and some attention, but the industrial guys still have 10x the money, 10x the connections and are 2x as fast as you. If you are in a latter area, well you can compete with your scientific brethren for useless credits and grant money. If course, there is also a sweet spot, and that is right in between those two.
added on the 2013-12-18 14:57:31 by Calexico Calexico
that bullshit...AGAIN?
is it really all you think about all days, adok?
You do know its always the weak that want to be strong, eh?
What about making a mindblasting demo instead of trying to get into some elite-circle? I dont even get why its so important to be elite, do you get money for being elite or sth?
I get paid mad money for being part of the elite, but I am male, nordic and was in the right place at the right time.

And yeah - being in academia is pretty awesome. I get to work on my own time with something I really like and take trips to a lot of funky places. It doesnt pay as much as industry does, but on the other hand I dont have to deal with marketing people, venture capitalists or the like.
added on the 2013-12-18 15:57:59 by nic0 nic0
With that in mind, I would like to try working in the industry again one day, I used to be in a small company with 8-10 people with bstrr/loonies and farfar/loonies as well as a few others. That was a pretty awesome, and even if we made a few beginners mistakes, it was great. Would like to test something similar out at some point again with all these extra years of experience :)
added on the 2013-12-18 16:06:33 by nic0 nic0
@maali: whats the topic of your diss btw? kinda interested :)
added on the 2013-12-18 16:22:10 by trigger trigger
trigger: good question! but it will involve something about optimizing prescription and use of antibiotics in hospitals. so if you wanna snort vancomycin with me at revision to make sure you won't get gonorrhea in the showers, bump me!
Do you have any thoughts on antibiotics and genius austrians?!
added on the 2013-12-18 19:34:57 by nic0 nic0
And yeah - being in academia is pretty awesome. I get to work on my own time with something I really like and take trips to a lot of funky places.

Yep, I loved all that too during my years as a researcher. Then it was made very clear to me that "working on my own time", a.k.a. lots of unpaid overtime, is not something one can/should do for very long without suffering the consequences. ;-)

@Maali: Nice illustration of a PhD! :-D
added on the 2013-12-18 19:49:01 by Kylearan Kylearan
kylearan: jup. took early xmas holidays to work on the dissertation coming few days ;)
Nowadays my releases are papers and books (i.e. megademos). I travel to conferences (demoparties) and get drunk but not as much as on revisions.
added on the 2013-12-18 21:54:18 by chromag chromag
I was under the impression that people working in other areas also did lots of unpaid overtime - at least I always hear a lot of whining about hoooow hard they work to pay all the taxes that I get my salary paid out of :)
added on the 2013-12-18 22:26:51 by nic0 nic0
chromag: jup, demoscene experience helps with networking at international conferences. apparently no matter how much degrees you have, talking about local drinks, lolling at each other's knowledge of swear words and other retarded facts about one's country still works ;)
no matter how "many" degrees you have...
I'm guessing English language isn't one of them :]
added on the 2013-12-18 23:01:09 by Forcer Forcer
nic0: interaction design ain't no science. that's what kids with scruffy beards practice until the reality bat smacks them in the face.
added on the 2013-12-18 23:38:00 by superplek superplek
forcer: touche, i blame the liters of grolsch im drinking today!
besides, real scientists have ppl to check their articles for grammar :P

and i agree with plek, interaction design sounds like a study you would pick if you're sure you wanna stay unemployed for the next 10 years or wanna temporarily get lucky with a phd position :P *trolling nic0 for some interaction*
Nope, the real scientists are so knowledgable and intelligent they don't need anyone to proofread their articles.
They have superior intellect :]
added on the 2013-12-19 00:03:11 by Forcer Forcer
not proofread, co-author! ;)
is that one of those sokal affair things?
By gods, interaction design is not a science by any stick at all. It is something much much greater than mere problemsolving and wringing over proving "theory" with what fools like Adok would call "data" not recognizing that both theory, data and the entire notion of "scientific" is a hoax created by sad old men to forget that death comes to everyone.
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